Indivision Scan Doubler

JonSick · 12 February 2013, 11:22

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/...oducts_id=1085

Make this easy for me.

I get this, whack it on my A1200 and now I can use my PC's standard 26" flat screen with my Amiga? No pesky drivers needed for the A1200 or anything?

DDNI · 12 February 2013, 11:29

Yes.

BUT

The config tool is not ready yet, so there may be issues with some screens.
There is a "rumour" that sale of these has been suspended until the tool is ready.

demolition · 12 February 2013, 11:40

Since the output signal is non-standard there is a big risk that you will not get a picture on your monitor. If you let us know what model your monitor is, maybe someone can confirm whether it should work for you or not.

Turran · 12 February 2013, 11:45

When it DOES work though, its amazing =)

OS3.9 in 1024x768 using HighGFX driver (You dont need a driver for "normal" resolutions)
http://www.grandis.nu/images/IndivisionAGAMKII.JPG

DDNI · 12 February 2013, 11:49

That looks good!
Why is there a line through your "other mem"?

Turran · 12 February 2013, 12:02

Because its overheating I think. That starts after a while but only in 1024x768. I need to put a little fan in or something. Random lines. Usually I dont even see them, but that picture must have been taken at just the right (wrong) time.

spajdr · 12 February 2013, 12:09

I would wait for ScanJuggler XAGA
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=867836&postcount=42

demolition · 12 February 2013, 12:45

Yes, those lines are caused by overheating, but according to Jens its the A1200 chips that has the problems, not the Indivision, and could be fixed by applying additional cooling.

Actually you can run 1280x1024 in 16 colors with decent speed with the MkII, so it is quite nice for a 21 year old machine. Only downside is that it will use up a lot of your chipmem when running that mode..

Turran · 12 February 2013, 12:59

That requires the XTREME driver I think (for 1280x1024). Never got that one to work on my TV. Only the HighGFX driver work.

Thats why its a bit of a gamble to buy one when the software for it is not ready.

demolition · 12 February 2013, 14:54

Yes, that's the XTREME driver, which works well on my Dell 2408WFP. Looks even nicer if I disable scaling in the monitor as it is then 1:1 pixel mapping from the Amiga to the monitor. Main downside (apart from the chipmem usage) is that it is interlaced like all high-res modes and has a very low framerate so it feels very sluggish. Think it's 35Hz interlaced, which means ~17 frames/s.

JonSick · 12 February 2013, 15:26

It's a Dell 26" one, but no idea what model number (the sticker is missing off the back). It's got DV and SVGA ports. I also have a 24" one which is slightly older.

I run three monitors off my main PC, two of the 26" and a single 24". The 24" I mainly use for mixer views in Cubase, but thinking as it has two inputs, I can repurpose it for Amiga duties and get shot of my stupidly bulky 16" CRT TV with no remote and dodgy speakers.

BarryB · 12 February 2013, 18:02

Is there a pull out TAB on the left side of those Dell monitors with that info? On my Dell 24" U2410 I have that pull out TAB.

I use a 22" Samsung 226BW on my A1200 with the MKII and it copes with all the resolutions I've tried, even games are working except for the scrolling isn't smooth but that's because the config tool isn't yet ready

demolition · 12 February 2013, 20:14

If you enter the menus, you can usually find the model name in there somewhere.

JonSick · 12 February 2013, 20:32

Sorry, had to wait until I got home. It's an E248WFP
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...=us&l=en&s=dfh

1time · 13 February 2013, 17:51

If i did understand how bad it would work without the config tool, i would never have bought it.

12 February 2013, 11:22	#1
JonSick Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 255	Indivision Scan Doubler http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/...oducts_id=1085 Make this easy for me. I get this, whack it on my A1200 and now I can use my PC's standard 26" flat screen with my Amiga? No pesky drivers needed for the A1200 or anything?

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12 February 2013, 11:29	#2
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,433	Yes. BUT The config tool is not ready yet, so there may be issues with some screens. There is a "rumour" that sale of these has been suspended until the tool is ready.

12 February 2013, 11:40	#3
demolition Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Copenhagen / DK Age: 44 Posts: 4,190	Since the output signal is non-standard there is a big risk that you will not get a picture on your monitor. If you let us know what model your monitor is, maybe someone can confirm whether it should work for you or not.

12 February 2013, 11:45	#4
Turran Moderator Join Date: May 2012 Location: Stockholm / Sweden Age: 49 Posts: 1,575	When it DOES work though, its amazing =) OS3.9 in 1024x768 using HighGFX driver (You dont need a driver for "normal" resolutions) http://www.grandis.nu/images/IndivisionAGAMKII.JPG

12 February 2013, 11:49	#5
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,433	That looks good! Why is there a line through your "other mem"?

12 February 2013, 12:02	#6
Turran Moderator Join Date: May 2012 Location: Stockholm / Sweden Age: 49 Posts: 1,575	Because its overheating I think. That starts after a while but only in 1024x768. I need to put a little fan in or something. Random lines. Usually I dont even see them, but that picture must have been taken at just the right (wrong) time.

12 February 2013, 12:09	#7
spajdr Old fart Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ostrava/Czech Republic Age: 46 Posts: 315	I would wait for ScanJuggler XAGA http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=867836&postcount=42

12 February 2013, 12:45	#8
demolition Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Copenhagen / DK Age: 44 Posts: 4,190	Yes, those lines are caused by overheating, but according to Jens its the A1200 chips that has the problems, not the Indivision, and could be fixed by applying additional cooling. Actually you can run 1280x1024 in 16 colors with decent speed with the MkII, so it is quite nice for a 21 year old machine. Only downside is that it will use up a lot of your chipmem when running that mode..

12 February 2013, 12:59	#9
Turran Moderator Join Date: May 2012 Location: Stockholm / Sweden Age: 49 Posts: 1,575	That requires the XTREME driver I think (for 1280x1024). Never got that one to work on my TV. Only the HighGFX driver work. Thats why its a bit of a gamble to buy one when the software for it is not ready.

12 February 2013, 14:54	#10
demolition Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Copenhagen / DK Age: 44 Posts: 4,190	Yes, that's the XTREME driver, which works well on my Dell 2408WFP. Looks even nicer if I disable scaling in the monitor as it is then 1:1 pixel mapping from the Amiga to the monitor. Main downside (apart from the chipmem usage) is that it is interlaced like all high-res modes and has a very low framerate so it feels very sluggish. Think it's 35Hz interlaced, which means ~17 frames/s.

12 February 2013, 15:26	#11
JonSick Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 255	It's a Dell 26" one, but no idea what model number (the sticker is missing off the back). It's got DV and SVGA ports. I also have a 24" one which is slightly older. I run three monitors off my main PC, two of the 26" and a single 24". The 24" I mainly use for mixer views in Cubase, but thinking as it has two inputs, I can repurpose it for Amiga duties and get shot of my stupidly bulky 16" CRT TV with no remote and dodgy speakers.

12 February 2013, 18:02	#12
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,759	Is there a pull out TAB on the left side of those Dell monitors with that info? On my Dell 24" U2410 I have that pull out TAB. I use a 22" Samsung 226BW on my A1200 with the MKII and it copes with all the resolutions I've tried, even games are working except for the scrolling isn't smooth but that's because the config tool isn't yet ready

12 February 2013, 20:14	#13
demolition Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Copenhagen / DK Age: 44 Posts: 4,190	If you enter the menus, you can usually find the model name in there somewhere.

12 February 2013, 20:32	#14
JonSick Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 255	Sorry, had to wait until I got home. It's an E248WFP http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...=us&l=en&s=dfh

13 February 2013, 17:51	#15
1time Amiga Lover Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Stockholm / Sweden Age: 46 Posts: 612	If i did understand how bad it would work without the config tool, i would never have bought it.

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