Some fool on ebay selling WinUAE

fitzsteve · 01 April 2011, 14:57

Hey up - I guess you have some sort of distribution licence on WinUAE that says it cannot be sold?

Well on eBay USB Emulation sticks have cropped up, looks like he's also ripping off Classic Workbench

thgill · 01 April 2011, 14:59

I have seen a couple a-holes selling WinUAE on eBay.

I guess the only thing to do is to keep reporting them.

fitzsteve · 01 April 2011, 15:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by thgill

I have seen a couple a-holes selling WinUAE on eBay.

I guess the only thing to do is to keep reporting them.

First time I've seen that, I know there are lots of 4gb CF's fully setup, these seem to be getting away with it. But WinUAE still being worked on must have some kind of end user agreement/distribution restrictions.

If so should be able to get those pulled.

Steve.

thgill · 01 April 2011, 15:07

I assume those people selling those CDs "Just pop the disc into your PC and play all the classic Amiga games" is using WinUAE.

Those seem to crop up from time to time.

khph_re · 01 April 2011, 15:17

Is it Cloanto?

Leffmann · 01 April 2011, 15:43

Actually WinUAE is licensed under GPL, and thus any fool is allowed to take the software and sell it at any price they want.

fitzsteve · 01 April 2011, 15:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leffmann

Actually WinUAE is licensed under GPL, and thus any fool is allowed to take the software and sell it at any price they want.

Damn, thats a shame - oh well!

Its a nice solution as I made one myself, of course you can do it for free (well the cost of a USB stick which is dirt cheap)

So please, no-one buy this!!!!

seuden · 01 April 2011, 15:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leffmann

Actually WinUAE is licensed under GPL, and thus any fool is allowed to take the software and sell it at any price they want.

Where in the GPL does it state you can sell it? I thought you could only give it away?

EDIT:

Quote:

By contrast, the GNU General Public License is intended to guarantee your freedom to share and change all versions of a program--to make sure it remains free software for all its users.

EDIT: Hmmm

Quote:

For example, if you distribute copies of such a program, whether gratis or for a fee, you must pass on to the recipients the same freedoms that you received. You must make sure that they, too, receive or can get the source code. And you must show them these terms so they know their rights.

Bloodwych · 01 April 2011, 17:24

It's really annoying - they never even bother to ask or post a link to the ClassicWB site or EAB most of the time.

Just grab and sell other peoples hard work.

If anyone should be doing something like this, it should be those who are active in the community. For instance, if it was fitzsteve, who actively helps and contributes to the Amiga community, I would not mind at all him selling such sticks and providing a service.

It's when it's done on the sly with no manners that gets my back up. All we can do is report the auctions if we have no idea who is selling and it appears to be a no name trying to make a profit out of others hard work.

EDIT: BTW, this isn't an April Fool is it? You know, with fool the title????

fitzsteve · 01 April 2011, 20:24

No joke, was on there this morning, but seems to be gone now.

I reported it so maybe eBay pulled it?

amigakit.com · 01 April 2011, 21:32

Unfortunately, this seems to happen all the time on Ebay, for example, several people selling pre-loaded CF HDDs illegally.

We even spotted one guy on Ebay regulary selling copied ROMs and counterfeit AmigaOS 3.1 disks as a bundle for £15. A quick look at his order history on Ebay and going back you could see the EPROMs and the floppy disk labels he was buying to produce this. Its a wonder none of his customers realised that AmigaOS 3.1 was never supplied on white DSDD disks.

Of course, none of these individuals are registered businesses so avoid paying taxes.

fitzsteve · 01 April 2011, 21:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by amigakit.com

Unfortunately, this seems to happen all the time on Ebay, for example, several people selling pre-loaded CF HDDs illegally.

We even spotted one guy on Ebay regulary selling copied ROMs and counterfeit AmigaOS 3.1 disks as a bundle for £15. A quick look at his order history on Ebay and going back you could see the EPROMs and the floppy disk labels he was buying to produce this. Its a wonder none of his customers realised that AmigaOS 3.1 was never supplied on white DSDD disks.

Of course, none of these individuals are registered businesses so avoid paying taxes.

Thats what I tried to tell the guys on Amibay:

http://amibay.com/showthread.php?t=1...t=backup+disks

Not even the Mods backed me up!!!

Gordon · 01 April 2011, 21:47

back on steve
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/8GB-Amiga-USB-...item1c1aa4e09b

fitzsteve · 01 April 2011, 21:51

These guys are a joke, I helped a friend setup a CF card today he had bought from one of these sellers. He mentioned that many WHDload games were not working.

Quickly found out the reason, it had the default MaxTransfer! 0xffffff etc.

I'm sorry but if you pay £40 for a CF the least they can do is set it up properly!!

You'll be pleased to know I re-done my friends CF and he's over the moon with it

I'm tempted to go on eBay myself and sell these at cost and put all these fools out of business.

TCD · 01 April 2011, 21:56

Ouch, even with WHDLoad... bet there's a 'trial key' on it as well

amigakit.com · 01 April 2011, 22:14

@fitzsteve

The mods should back you up IMHO- especially if you point out all the evidence. Looking at his feedback he has bought EPROMs, label remover and printer disk labels.

£40 for the CF HDDs is a steep price for a hard disk full of other peoples hard work distributed without their permission.

TCD · 01 April 2011, 22:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by eBay

You have successfully submitted a report.

And go team EAB

FOL · 01 April 2011, 22:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

Thats what I tried to tell the guys on Amibay:

http://amibay.com/showthread.php?t=1...t=backup+disks

Not even the Mods backed me up!!!

I was tempted, but had to hold back.
As we tend to get alot of stick at times, when pointing this type of stuff out.

EBAY, dont seem to care.

s2325 · 01 April 2011, 22:24

I think 2600 + 500 is not 3200 games...

Retrofan · 02 April 2011, 00:36

I won`t tell no lies. My first Cf HD was bought full of all those preloaded not shareware programs and keys. When you are a newbie, nobody can blame you but the seller.
I remember how I was giving my best thanks for selling me all that piracy... After a time I`ve bought all the keys and programs you still can buy by now.

01 April 2011, 14:57	#1
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,685	Some fool on ebay selling WinUAE Hey up - I guess you have some sort of distribution licence on WinUAE that says it cannot be sold? Well on eBay USB Emulation sticks have cropped up, looks like he's also ripping off Classic Workbench

01 April 2011, 17:24	#9
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	It's really annoying - they never even bother to ask or post a link to the ClassicWB site or EAB most of the time. Just grab and sell other peoples hard work. If anyone should be doing something like this, it should be those who are active in the community. For instance, if it was fitzsteve, who actively helps and contributes to the Amiga community, I would not mind at all him selling such sticks and providing a service. It's when it's done on the sly with no manners that gets my back up. All we can do is report the auctions if we have no idea who is selling and it appears to be a no name trying to make a profit out of others hard work. EDIT: BTW, this isn't an April Fool is it? You know, with fool the title???? Last edited by Bloodwych; 01 April 2011 at 19:32.

01 April 2011, 22:14	#16
amigakit.com Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: www.amigakit.com Posts: 2,051	@fitzsteve The mods should back you up IMHO- especially if you point out all the evidence. Looking at his feedback he has bought EPROMs, label remover and printer disk labels. £40 for the CF HDDs is a steep price for a hard disk full of other peoples hard work distributed without their permission. Last edited by amigakit.com; 01 April 2011 at 22:30.

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01 April 2011, 14:59	#2
thgill Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mason, Ohio / USA Age: 48 Posts: 391	I have seen a couple a-holes selling WinUAE on eBay. I guess the only thing to do is to keep reporting them.

01 April 2011, 15:07	#4
thgill Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mason, Ohio / USA Age: 48 Posts: 391	I assume those people selling those CDs "Just pop the disc into your PC and play all the classic Amiga games" is using WinUAE. Those seem to crop up from time to time.

01 April 2011, 15:17	#5
khph_re Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Northampton/UK Posts: 530	Is it Cloanto?

01 April 2011, 15:43	#6
Leffmann Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,269	Actually WinUAE is licensed under GPL, and thus any fool is allowed to take the software and sell it at any price they want.

01 April 2011, 20:24	#10
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,685	No joke, was on there this morning, but seems to be gone now. I reported it so maybe eBay pulled it?

01 April 2011, 21:32	#11
amigakit.com Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: www.amigakit.com Posts: 2,051	Unfortunately, this seems to happen all the time on Ebay, for example, several people selling pre-loaded CF HDDs illegally. We even spotted one guy on Ebay regulary selling copied ROMs and counterfeit AmigaOS 3.1 disks as a bundle for £15. A quick look at his order history on Ebay and going back you could see the EPROMs and the floppy disk labels he was buying to produce this. Its a wonder none of his customers realised that AmigaOS 3.1 was never supplied on white DSDD disks. Of course, none of these individuals are registered businesses so avoid paying taxes.

01 April 2011, 21:47	#13
Gordon Settler Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Serf City Posts: 1,760	back on steve http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/8GB-Amiga-USB-...item1c1aa4e09b

01 April 2011, 21:51	#14
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,685	These guys are a joke, I helped a friend setup a CF card today he had bought from one of these sellers. He mentioned that many WHDload games were not working. Quickly found out the reason, it had the default MaxTransfer! 0xffffff etc. I'm sorry but if you pay £40 for a CF the least they can do is set it up properly!! You'll be pleased to know I re-done my friends CF and he's over the moon with it I'm tempted to go on eBay myself and sell these at cost and put all these fools out of business.

01 April 2011, 21:56	#15
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,988	Ouch, even with WHDLoad... bet there's a 'trial key' on it as well

01 April 2011, 22:24	#19
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 44 Posts: 17,789	I think 2600 + 500 is not 3200 games...

02 April 2011, 00:36	#20
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,195	I won`t tell no lies. My first Cf HD was bought full of all those preloaded not shareware programs and keys. When you are a newbie, nobody can blame you but the seller. I remember how I was giving my best thanks for selling me all that piracy... After a time I`ve bought all the keys and programs you still can buy by now.

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