Xenon 2 CD32 Problem on WinUAE

Kitty · 25 September 2009, 19:56

Ok I have tried this on the latest Beta and also on Vers 1.6.1 & Vers 1.4.6

I have the correct cd32 kick roms and mounted the bin/cue file in alchahol and successfully got Xenon 2 to run on WinUAE, I was well happy about this until I went to actually play the game.
So im shooting away then soon as I go to collect up my rewards in the game, soon as I touch one ball, the game resets back to the title screen, wtf???
Anyone else had this problem with this game? Am I missing something in winuae, maybe not enough memory or something?
I set the memory as 2MB chip memory and nothing else, do I need fast/slow/Z3 fast? Which CPU setting for CD32? Or have I just got a duff bin/cue version ??? Any help appreciated on this

Retro-Nerd · 25 September 2009, 19:58

Why don't you try the CDTV Emulation?

Kitty · 25 September 2009, 19:59

Never thought of that I'll give that a go, do you need special cdtv kick roms?

Also isnt the cd version of Xenon 2 a CD32 game, I didnt think it was a CDTV game?

Retro-Nerd · 25 September 2009, 20:02

Yes, this one.

Quote:

CDTV Extended-ROM v1.0 (1991)(Commodore)(CDTV)[!].rom

Xenon 2 is a CDTV game, should be compatible with the CD32 though. Haven't tested the game in WinUAE since ages.

Kitty · 25 September 2009, 20:11

Seems that Extended rom wont run alongside the CD32 Main Kick rom, should I use a normal Kick 3.1 rom with it?

Toni Wilen · 25 September 2009, 20:14

If you don't even have correct roms, you are most likely booting it as a "read-only harddrive". Use quickstart, do not put anything in harddrives, do not enable uaescsi (if you followed some bad guides..)

Retro-Nerd · 25 September 2009, 20:14

No Kick 1.3 and the extended rom. Use the Quickstart mode.

Kitty · 25 September 2009, 20:48

Ok I managed to get the cdtv kick rom to boot and it works, the only thing I cant get to work now is getting cdtv to play cd's, anyone know how to do this, I mounted a drive and it wouldnt boot it like the CD32 config did ..

Kitty · 25 September 2009, 21:17

OK I got it working! Turns out to play a game on CDTV Quickstart, you still have to add the image by going to Hardrive and select 'Add Dir or Archive' then select the .cue file, then Start.
CDTV is a lot slower than CD32 I noticed but it works fine!
Now I'm gonna download a proper CD32 game and test that on the CD32 config just to make sure that still will work properly, keep ya posted and thanks for your help guys

Toni Wilen · 25 September 2009, 21:21

No no no. This is that "read-only harddrive" mode which means you won't get CD audio and many games stop working.

Make sure SPTI is selected in misc panel. (most common problem)

Still not working: enable logging (misc panel) and attach winuaelog.txt

Kitty · 25 September 2009, 22:04

Cant even get the bios to boot properly that way, also I cant see anywhere to load the cue file as the quick start options to load a file are greyed out.
Btw I had music the way I booted it before ..

TCD · 25 September 2009, 22:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitty

Bootlog attached

Toni wants the 'winuaelog.txt'

Goto the 'Misc' panel and enable the 'Create log file' checkbox

Kitty · 25 September 2009, 22:43

OK I've got it to boot the bios correctly, I just dont know the right way to add the bin/cue

Proper log attached.

TCD · 25 September 2009, 22:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitty

OK I've got it to boot the bios correctly, I just dont know the right way to add the bin/cue

Just mount it with Daemon Tools. That should work. Maybe you want to mount it in the first virtual drive slot.

Retro-Nerd · 25 September 2009, 22:55

The game has indeed some troubles, not the first time. I get the same reboot in CD32 emulation, latest Beta. CDTV emulation doesn't work after the logo.

Kitty · 25 September 2009, 23:13

Quote:

Just mount it with Daemon Tools. That should work. Maybe you want to mount it in the first virtual drive slot.

I use alcohol to mount my images, works fine with CD32 emulation, the only way I got it to work on cdtv was the way I mentioned earlier, but thats not correct though is it

Retro-Nerd · 25 September 2009, 23:20

Use a CD32 Quickstart config, then disable JIT and enable 24-Bit Addressing. This works somehow.

Kitty · 25 September 2009, 23:46

Quote:

Use a CD32 Quickstart config, then disable JIT and enable 24-Bit Addressing. This works somehow.

Awesome! Nice one Retro-Nerd, finally solved!

So does this mean any CDTV games will work on this config too?

Retro-Nerd · 25 September 2009, 23:48

No, not really. Wait for Toni's reply. Maybe he can fix it.

Kitty · 26 September 2009, 01:20

I finally understand what Toni was getting at now, you mount the image with demon tools or with alcohol (what I use) then you just load quick start cdtv (obviously with the right kick files) and it will boot, the main thing I wasnt doing was being patient! cdtv mode takes a little longer to boot but it does work

The whole reason I was getting problems playing in game originally was because of the way I was setting things up which now I understand properly what Toni was trying to explain to me!

Thankyou everyone

25 September 2009, 19:56	#1
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	Xenon 2 CD32 Problem on WinUAE Ok I have tried this on the latest Beta and also on Vers 1.6.1 & Vers 1.4.6 I have the correct cd32 kick roms and mounted the bin/cue file in alchahol and successfully got Xenon 2 to run on WinUAE, I was well happy about this until I went to actually play the game. So im shooting away then soon as I go to collect up my rewards in the game, soon as I touch one ball, the game resets back to the title screen, wtf??? Anyone else had this problem with this game? Am I missing something in winuae, maybe not enough memory or something? I set the memory as 2MB chip memory and nothing else, do I need fast/slow/Z3 fast? Which CPU setting for CD32? Or have I just got a duff bin/cue version ??? Any help appreciated on this

26 September 2009, 01:20	#20
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	I finally understand what Toni was getting at now, you mount the image with demon tools or with alcohol (what I use) then you just load quick start cdtv (obviously with the right kick files) and it will boot, the main thing I wasnt doing was being patient! cdtv mode takes a little longer to boot but it does work The whole reason I was getting problems playing in game originally was because of the way I was setting things up which now I understand properly what Toni was trying to explain to me! Thankyou everyone Last edited by Kitty; 26 September 2009 at 01:28.

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25 September 2009, 19:58	#2
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,458	Why don't you try the CDTV Emulation?

25 September 2009, 19:59	#3
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	Never thought of that I'll give that a go, do you need special cdtv kick roms? Also isnt the cd version of Xenon 2 a CD32 game, I didnt think it was a CDTV game?

25 September 2009, 20:11	#5
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	Seems that Extended rom wont run alongside the CD32 Main Kick rom, should I use a normal Kick 3.1 rom with it?

25 September 2009, 20:14	#6
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,573	If you don't even have correct roms, you are most likely booting it as a "read-only harddrive". Use quickstart, do not put anything in harddrives, do not enable uaescsi (if you followed some bad guides..)

25 September 2009, 20:48	#8
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	Ok I managed to get the cdtv kick rom to boot and it works, the only thing I cant get to work now is getting cdtv to play cd's, anyone know how to do this, I mounted a drive and it wouldnt boot it like the CD32 config did ..

25 September 2009, 21:17	#9
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	OK I got it working! Turns out to play a game on CDTV Quickstart, you still have to add the image by going to Hardrive and select 'Add Dir or Archive' then select the .cue file, then Start. CDTV is a lot slower than CD32 I noticed but it works fine! Now I'm gonna download a proper CD32 game and test that on the CD32 config just to make sure that still will work properly, keep ya posted and thanks for your help guys

25 September 2009, 21:21	#10
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,573	No no no. This is that "read-only harddrive" mode which means you won't get CD audio and many games stop working. Make sure SPTI is selected in misc panel. (most common problem) Still not working: enable logging (misc panel) and attach winuaelog.txt

25 September 2009, 23:20	#17
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,458	Use a CD32 Quickstart config, then disable JIT and enable 24-Bit Addressing. This works somehow.

25 September 2009, 23:48	#19
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,458	No, not really. Wait for Toni's reply. Maybe he can fix it.

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