Ebay dispute - Worst deal I ever had ...

coze · 23 April 2008, 05:04

Some while ago, I got a max machine for myself, and I was after some max mode cartridges for it. While scouring ebay, I came across a jupiter lander card and a wizard of wor card from the same seller. I offer 7$ for the j.lander and 30$ w.of wor and he accepts both offers. I send the payment, he sends the cards, all is fine.

I receive the cards. He used a box picture for the wizard of wor, but it turns out its card only. I read the description again, and it actually says card only. my bad, but why the hell do you use a box picture when you don't have it ?

anyway, the j.lander is working but wow is not. So I tell the seller item is doa. he responds clean the contacts and try again else he can refund. I clean the contacts (again) and try again but still no joy. so I respond him it's not working. One week passes. No response.

So I say to the hell with refund. I don't want to bother sending the card back to us anyway, cause it'll probably cost me what I'll get from the refund. So I leave neutral feedback for him. Since one of the cards was working while the other (albeit expensive) one did not.

big mistake. he responds with a neg in two days. upon further communication I get called retarded among other things, so I realise I'm dealing with a total asshole here. I open a dispute with ebay. he says I have to return the items to him, so I do, with EMS mail. The parcel reaches his place, but he's absent, at april 12. After ten days, he doesn't seem interested in claiming it, I know he's around cause he left feedback at other buyers at 21st april. so I escalate the issue to a paypal claim.

So, in the end, I got ripped off 50$ (plus 25$ for return shipping and my time), I didn't get anything (I return both cards) I get called names and most importantly, got a neg feedback. And I didn't even neg him while he neg me in cold blood. He really should have the nerve to do this. I should have negged him while I had the chance. His name is george stump, ebay seller old_school_software_inc.

AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE - BIGGEST ASSHOLE ON THE PLANET.

Retro-Nerd · 23 April 2008, 06:17

Sorry to hear that coze. But eBay is changing this in some month. The seller can rate you positive only then, when he received the money.

I don't rate assholes on eBay in this cases, better than risking a negative.

keropi · 23 April 2008, 07:39

sorry to hear this, what an ass!
as for the picture matter, after getting ~70 old pc games this month, I gotta tell you that I don't really believe what I am seeing

it sux

spajdr · 23 April 2008, 09:07

Well i got ripped off by like 400 dollars, damn scammers, happened two months ago.

StevenJGore · 23 April 2008, 09:11

Sorry to hear about your experience. As a buyer on eBay, I have a policy of not leaving feedback for sellers until they've left me feedback. As a seller on eBay, I always leave positive feedback as soon as the buyer has paid.

Quote:

I don't rate assholes on eBay in this cases, better than risking a negative.

Since you have three months after a transaction to leave feedback, the trick is to leave negative feedback just before midnight on the last day before three months has passed. By the time the seller/buyer notices, it's too late for them to retaliate. This has always worked for me so far, and is very satisfying to do because they think they've got away with it by then!

Retro-Nerd · 23 April 2008, 16:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevenJGore

Since you have three months after a transaction to leave feedback, the trick is to leave negative feedback just before midnight on the last day before three months has passed. By the time the seller/buyer notices, it's too late for them to retaliate. This has always worked for me so far, and is very satisfying to do because they think they've got away with it by then!

I know this "trick", but it's all over in June iirc. Well, at least here in Germany. A seller can rate you only with a positve when he got the money.

@coze

PayPal transfered the money back to you, i assume?

Ironclaw · 23 April 2008, 18:51

I've been ripped off 3 times on ebay, not gotten any money back from seller nor ebay... sucks.

chiark · 23 April 2008, 23:29

Never had any troubles with ebay... Sales (well, buying) outside of ebay have gone somewhat less smoothly of recent but I'm still hopeful things'll end up fine.

Coze, paypal should refund you, especially if you paid with a credit card. If they don't refund you, the credit card company will.

alexh · 24 April 2008, 09:16

Absolutely, I've bought fake / broken items before and always got a PayPal refund.

jmmijo · 26 April 2008, 19:37

Hence the reason I don't use Fleabay nor no-Pay-is-not-your-Pal

In fact I prefer not to use any commercial auction site, I'd rather deal with peeps on this board instead

27 April 2008, 17:57

Have to say I've been very lucky with ebay, never had a problem with anything I've bought from there (touch wood), have a few friends who have though, doe and misrepresentation of the item being the major ones

Shame that a few bad apples put you off, I always check the feedback of any seller before I buy anything from them, least that will give you an indication as to the honesty of him/her

jmmijo · 27 April 2008, 18:08

Yes, it is too bad, well not really for me, I have many other ways of getting the things I want so it's not like auction sites are the only place in town to get something either

Besides, I've been working on getting rid of some items more then collecting and it doesn't help with folks like Unknown_K and Dpainter have sent you boxes of computer parts and diskettes

23 April 2008, 05:04	#1
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	Ebay dispute - Worst deal I ever had ... Some while ago, I got a max machine for myself, and I was after some max mode cartridges for it. While scouring ebay, I came across a jupiter lander card and a wizard of wor card from the same seller. I offer 7$ for the j.lander and 30$ w.of wor and he accepts both offers. I send the payment, he sends the cards, all is fine. I receive the cards. He used a box picture for the wizard of wor, but it turns out its card only. I read the description again, and it actually says card only. my bad, but why the hell do you use a box picture when you don't have it ? anyway, the j.lander is working but wow is not. So I tell the seller item is doa. he responds clean the contacts and try again else he can refund. I clean the contacts (again) and try again but still no joy. so I respond him it's not working. One week passes. No response. So I say to the hell with refund. I don't want to bother sending the card back to us anyway, cause it'll probably cost me what I'll get from the refund. So I leave neutral feedback for him. Since one of the cards was working while the other (albeit expensive) one did not. big mistake. he responds with a neg in two days. upon further communication I get called retarded among other things, so I realise I'm dealing with a total asshole here. I open a dispute with ebay. he says I have to return the items to him, so I do, with EMS mail. The parcel reaches his place, but he's absent, at april 12. After ten days, he doesn't seem interested in claiming it, I know he's around cause he left feedback at other buyers at 21st april. so I escalate the issue to a paypal claim. So, in the end, I got ripped off 50$ (plus 25$ for return shipping and my time), I didn't get anything (I return both cards) I get called names and most importantly, got a neg feedback. And I didn't even neg him while he neg me in cold blood. He really should have the nerve to do this. I should have negged him while I had the chance. His name is george stump, ebay seller old_school_software_inc. AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE - BIGGEST ASSHOLE ON THE PLANET.

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23 April 2008, 06:17	#2
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,458	Sorry to hear that coze. But eBay is changing this in some month. The seller can rate you positive only then, when he received the money. I don't rate assholes on eBay in this cases, better than risking a negative.

23 April 2008, 07:39	#3
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	sorry to hear this, what an ass! as for the picture matter, after getting ~70 old pc games this month, I gotta tell you that I don't really believe what I am seeing it sux

23 April 2008, 09:07	#4
spajdr Old fart Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ostrava/Czech Republic Age: 46 Posts: 315	Well i got ripped off by like 400 dollars, damn scammers, happened two months ago.

23 April 2008, 18:51	#7
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 46 Posts: 3,313	I've been ripped off 3 times on ebay, not gotten any money back from seller nor ebay... sucks.

23 April 2008, 23:29	#8
chiark Needs a life Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: England Posts: 1,707	Never had any troubles with ebay... Sales (well, buying) outside of ebay have gone somewhat less smoothly of recent but I'm still hopeful things'll end up fine. Coze, paypal should refund you, especially if you paid with a credit card. If they don't refund you, the credit card company will.

24 April 2008, 09:16	#9
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,465	Absolutely, I've bought fake / broken items before and always got a PayPal refund.

26 April 2008, 19:37	#10
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,396	Hence the reason I don't use Fleabay nor no-Pay-is-not-your-Pal In fact I prefer not to use any commercial auction site, I'd rather deal with peeps on this board instead

27 April 2008, 17:57	#11
aikend Posts: n/a	Have to say I've been very lucky with ebay, never had a problem with anything I've bought from there (touch wood), have a few friends who have though, doe and misrepresentation of the item being the major ones Shame that a few bad apples put you off, I always check the feedback of any seller before I buy anything from them, least that will give you an indication as to the honesty of him/her

27 April 2008, 18:08	#12
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,396	Yes, it is too bad, well not really for me, I have many other ways of getting the things I want so it's not like auction sites are the only place in town to get something either Besides, I've been working on getting rid of some items more then collecting and it doesn't help with folks like Unknown_K and Dpainter have sent you boxes of computer parts and diskettes

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