1200 questions

boing_1000 · 30 January 2007, 20:23

Hey everyone

I'm considering buying a 1200 in order to play all my old 1.3 HDD games. I want it to basically become like a 500 with an internal hard drive, but does anyone have any suggestions about what other mods I should do?

musashi5150 · 30 January 2007, 20:30

Not being funny, but wouldn't an A500 with an HD do the job?

killergorilla · 30 January 2007, 20:32

I've forgotten how many times I've recommended the following

A1200
68030 accelerator
32mb RAM
3gb-ish Harddrve

Dizzy · 30 January 2007, 20:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

I've forgotten how many times I've recommended the following

A1200
68030 accelerator
32mb RAM
3gb-ish Harddrve

and your forthcomming gamepack

killergorilla · 30 January 2007, 20:41

They're done, I started uploading em but the site has download issues (the files never completely download (even at 800kb/s))

boing_1000 · 30 January 2007, 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by musashi5150

Not being funny, but wouldn't an A500 with an HD do the job?

No I thought of that too. But hard drives for the 500 are gradually becoming harder to come by and 1200 parts are more easily accessible, not to mention cheaper.

gizmomelb · 31 January 2007, 03:40

come on home electronics developers! we need an autobooting IDE interface for the A500 (which you can then stick a Compact flash card on as the HDD and maybe an ATAPI CDROM (or DVDROM).

there's some nice home dev IDE interfaces, but none of them auto boot.

Unknown_K · 31 January 2007, 08:56

I suggest you snag an old a2000 with a 2091HD controller in it, that is what I did to get around the A500 HD issue (kept the 500 for floppy only games).

If you go the A1200 030/50 route (I have that also) it will cost alot more, but it does allow for WHDload AND you have native AGA gaming also (what little there was).

killergorilla · 31 January 2007, 12:04

I still haven't seen 1200 questions in this thread.

Someone has been misleading us.

Dizzy · 31 January 2007, 15:46

yeah just 1199 question to go

dkovacs · 31 January 2007, 16:04

I have an A1200 with a 68030 (a DKB Cobra) and 64MB of ram, most games work fine, some are dead slow though and some barely work at all (super stardust for example) if I swap in my old RAM card (a DKB1202), most of them work fine.

64 Megs of ram was the smallest SIMM I could find, and have yet to use it all (Art Department grabs whatever RAM is available, it's the only program I have that does this).

I am hoping to get a hold of a 68040 for it though, as the 68030 does not seem to provide a huge speed increase over the 68020. I haven't seen any 040's on E-Bay lately.

Zetr0 · 31 January 2007, 16:12

I have a question....

why did commodore call it the 1200 ?

clearly technically superior to the A3000 (if not imdeiately as upgradable)

I mean seriously if they called it the A3500 or better still

what you think of the name "A-w350m3"

its got a ring to it.

Zetr0 · 31 January 2007, 16:16

commodore naming convetions are gay!

Dizzy · 31 January 2007, 16:19

well the a500 was good, the a600 was just a little better (100) and since the 1200 is twice as good as the 600...The name must be.....

The sould have called it Amiga Wii

Steve · 31 January 2007, 16:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

I have a question....

why did commodore call it the 1200 ?

Well Commodore had two basic threads of the Amiga and they seemed to number them this way. The two threads were low end home computer and high end business machine.

So the high end computers started with the A1000, progressing to the likes of the A1500, A2000, A3000 and eventually the A4000. A natural progression of machine version numbers if you like.

The low end machines started with the A500, eventually being replaced by a slightly improved A500+. Next came the smaller update to the A500+ which included support for internal hard drives. Naturally as this was a small update it was named the A600. Then came the next generation of Amiga using the AGA chipset. At least double the power of the A600 they gave it double the name. Thus the new low end Amiga became the A1200.

Well thats my theory anyway. If the trend had continued the next in line would be an A5000 high end machine and maybe an A2400 low end Amiga.

Zetr0 · 31 January 2007, 16:22

still the Amiga W350M3 or known to its owners as the

AW350M3

viddi · 31 January 2007, 16:23

@ Zetr0:

Commodore thought in LowEnd and HighEnd categories.

So, at least it´s logical (in C=´s own right

)

A500
A600
A1200

A2000
A3000
A4000

...

Edit:
Okay, too late again....

killergorilla · 31 January 2007, 16:44

CD32 (Hex) is 52530 in Decimal. So it's 43.775 x better than the A1200

Either that or it's CD based and it's 37.5 worse than the A1200.

(I'd go for number 2)

Dizzy · 31 January 2007, 16:46

I do think the name Amiga 500 is because it came with 1/2Mb ram as a standard. and 0.5 x 1000 = 500 (guess they didnt want to call it Amiga 512)
C= did give their machines name after how much ram they got c16, c64 & c128

dkovacs · 31 January 2007, 18:10

Well, from what I can figure out is that the A1000 came with 256kb of ram origonally, so it couldn't be related to RAM or else CBM would have called it an Amiga 256. My guess is that as it was an entry level amiga, and the A1000 was not, they numbered it below the A1000.

The confusing thing is why the A600 was called the A600 and not the A300 as it had no easy expansion path.

Dan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dizzy

I do think the name Amiga 500 is because it came with 1/2Mb ram as a standard. and 0.5 x 1000 = 500 (guess they didnt want to call it Amiga 512)
C= did give their machines name after how much ram they got c16, c64 & c128

30 January 2007, 20:23	#1
boing_1000 A1000 Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Eastern USA Age: 37 Posts: 567	1200 questions Hey everyone I'm considering buying a 1200 in order to play all my old 1.3 HDD games. I want it to basically become like a 500 with an internal hard drive, but does anyone have any suggestions about what other mods I should do?

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30 January 2007, 20:30	#2
musashi5150 move.w #$4489,$dff07e Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolk, UK Age: 42 Posts: 2,351	Not being funny, but wouldn't an A500 with an HD do the job?

30 January 2007, 20:32	#3
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	I've forgotten how many times I've recommended the following A1200 68030 accelerator 32mb RAM 3gb-ish Harddrve

30 January 2007, 20:41	#5
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	They're done, I started uploading em but the site has download issues (the files never completely download (even at 800kb/s))

31 January 2007, 03:40	#7
gizmomelb Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: melbourne Age: 55 Posts: 541	come on home electronics developers! we need an autobooting IDE interface for the A500 (which you can then stick a Compact flash card on as the HDD and maybe an ATAPI CDROM (or DVDROM). there's some nice home dev IDE interfaces, but none of them auto boot.

31 January 2007, 08:56	#8
Unknown_K Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio/USA Age: 55 Posts: 1,380	I suggest you snag an old a2000 with a 2091HD controller in it, that is what I did to get around the A500 HD issue (kept the 500 for floppy only games). If you go the A1200 030/50 route (I have that also) it will cost alot more, but it does allow for WHDload AND you have native AGA gaming also (what little there was).

31 January 2007, 12:04	#9
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	I still haven't seen 1200 questions in this thread. Someone has been misleading us.

31 January 2007, 15:46	#10
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	yeah just 1199 question to go

31 January 2007, 16:04	#11
dkovacs Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Goderich Ontario Canada Age: 47 Posts: 64	I have an A1200 with a 68030 (a DKB Cobra) and 64MB of ram, most games work fine, some are dead slow though and some barely work at all (super stardust for example) if I swap in my old RAM card (a DKB1202), most of them work fine. 64 Megs of ram was the smallest SIMM I could find, and have yet to use it all (Art Department grabs whatever RAM is available, it's the only program I have that does this). I am hoping to get a hold of a 68040 for it though, as the 68030 does not seem to provide a huge speed increase over the 68020. I haven't seen any 040's on E-Bay lately.

31 January 2007, 16:12	#12
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	I have a question.... why did commodore call it the 1200 ? clearly technically superior to the A3000 (if not imdeiately as upgradable) I mean seriously if they called it the A3500 or better still what you think of the name "A-w350m3" its got a ring to it.

31 January 2007, 16:16	#13
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	commodore naming convetions are gay!

31 January 2007, 16:19	#14
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	well the a500 was good, the a600 was just a little better (100) and since the 1200 is twice as good as the 600...The name must be..... The sould have called it Amiga Wii

31 January 2007, 16:22	#16
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	still the Amiga W350M3 or known to its owners as the AW350M3

31 January 2007, 16:23	#17
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,015	@ Zetr0: Commodore thought in LowEnd and HighEnd categories. So, at least it´s logical (in C=´s own right ) A500 A600 A1200 A2000 A3000 A4000 ... Edit: Okay, too late again....

31 January 2007, 16:44	#18
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	CD32 (Hex) is 52530 in Decimal. So it's 43.775 x better than the A1200 Either that or it's CD based and it's 37.5 worse than the A1200. (I'd go for number 2)

31 January 2007, 16:46	#19
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	I do think the name Amiga 500 is because it came with 1/2Mb ram as a standard. and 0.5 x 1000 = 500 (guess they didnt want to call it Amiga 512) C= did give their machines name after how much ram they got c16, c64 & c128

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