cyberstormPPC users, SCSI issues

superBuster · 04 December 2006, 21:01

having SCSI issue with my "new" cyberstorm PPC card. Anybody have some experience with this board? help please.

Jope · 04 December 2006, 21:15

A3000 or A4000?

superBuster · 04 December 2006, 21:19

4000 tower

Jope · 04 December 2006, 21:23

Hmm, what kind of SCSI issue is it then?

The A4000T should have the INT2 line in the fast slot, so no problem there.

Are you certain your termination is set up correctly and there is term power on the bus?

keropi · 04 December 2006, 21:25

do you have ACTIVE terminators? u need 2 on the edges of the scsi cable.
also as 4000T has a scsi controller, maybe u should enable the SCSI CNR patch on the CSPPC menu?

superBuster · 04 December 2006, 21:36

hey guys thanks for the help , yes the init 2 it ok. I do have terminators, but I don't think they are hook up correct. Also there is and issue with the internal scsi on the tower. I installled OS3.1 on th einternal scsi bus (internal to the tower) I noticed that the interal scsi is not terminated, the card is non standard, once I put the cs pps in there I can;t see any drives and jsut get the rom image.....

keropi · 04 December 2006, 21:52

use this simple-cheap-last-minute diagram to see how to connect the stuff on the scsi chain. put a different ID on the CD and HD and don't make them terminate the chain, better use 2 seperate terminators.
Sorry but I cannot help u with the other external/a4000T scsi stuff, I only had a 4000D...

superBuster · 04 December 2006, 22:15

nice diagram! I will try this. I hear something about the the tower version that scarfes me, the internal scsi used the same interrups as the csppc? is this true? how do you disable the local tower scsi? So many questions! I just want the thing to work, I have spend a week of spare time fiddeling already!

superBuster · 04 December 2006, 22:32

@ keropi what scsi id's are you using? What id is your pps board set to?

keropi · 04 December 2006, 22:58

the HD is set to ID #1 and the CD to ID #2 ... csppc has ID #7 hor it's own use, and the connection I have is the same as the diagram I draw...
I had troubles too, but now all are much better!
here look at my threads:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=25276
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=25290
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=25223

I suck lol

X-ray · 04 December 2006, 23:32

@ SuperBuster

There is no problem to use A4000T internal SCSI and CyberstormPPC SCSI at the same time. I am using those together right now.

I don't know whether the CyberstormPPC saves the boot settings in a kind of flash rom onboard, but I suppose that if it does and the previous owner had it set to disable the internal SCSI then that is why you don't see your Worbench drives when that card is installed. I've had many drives attached to my A4000T internal SCSI and I have never had a problem because of termination. I think the internal controller is much less problematic with regards to termination than the CyberstormPPC SCSI.

The other issue with your CyberstormPPC SCSI is probably related to termination, like Keropi says. That thing has to be properly terminated, it is unavoidable.

keropi · 05 December 2006, 07:39

@ SuperBuster

have u checked the csppc boot menu? hold ESC during a boot until you see it, and check the SCSI section...

superBuster · 05 December 2006, 16:51

I got the scsi it to work. I terminated both sides of the cable and turned the scsi patches off. Now I am able to boot from my old scsi drive! The 060 works well. I did however have problems with the ppc part, not sure I'm doing this right. I downloaded some drivers from the old phase 5 site, to update the dms disks I had downloaded form amiga resource site. I also installed warpUP from the os3.9 cd and updated to boing bag 2 with rom update. Funny thing is now I crash right after boot, no button strip or workbench back drop show up. My fear is that the ppc chip is toast, but I'm not sure. I tried the test disk fomr the phase 5 site, but that told me no driver (on the power up test) and hung on the warpOS test. What did I do wrong now... will there be no morph os for me?

keropi · 05 December 2006, 17:47

all the latest drivers/apps u will ever need, are located on (unofficial) PowerUP Support Homepage maintained by DJBase! look there!

keropi · 05 December 2006, 17:50

also, do u have a g-rex or a cybervisionPPC ??? if u do, install the warp3D package and run the gears_ppc tests... or install AmigaAMP and on the settings put the engine to use WarpOS.
YOU MUST install the latest WOS version, 5.1 , look on the above link.
If the mp3 playback or the gears_test result to a crash then there is some ppc trouble OR a psu trouble.
do that and report back here!

superBuster · 05 December 2006, 18:22

I have a cybervisionPPC as well as a picassoIV. right now I think the picasso is running but the cybervision is also pluged in but is not showing up... man I have so much work to do! So I could be seeing issues with the gfx drivers... first tings first I will install the WOS 5.1 then I will see if I still crash! is there another quick way to test the ppc unit that return alive or dead status?

AMIGAZ · 05 December 2006, 19:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by superBuster

I have a cybervisionPPC as well as a picassoIV. right now I think the picasso is running but the cybervision is also pluged in but is not showing up... man I have so much work to do! So I could be seeing issues with the gfx drivers... first tings first I will install the WOS 5.1 then I will see if I still crash! is there another quick way to test the ppc unit that return alive or dead status?

The things Keropi described are the best ways to test the PPC, some system info software might show the PPC is there but not that its functional properly

keropi · 05 December 2006, 19:24

yes, just try amigaAMP with WOS decoding _AFTER_ u install the WOS 5.1 update... also on the site are drivers for the cvision_ppc too!

alewis · 06 December 2006, 08:11

What gfx drivers are you using? There is a problem with Cybergrafix v3 on an 060/OS3.9 rig. Exactly as you describe, too. if thats the case, remove CGX and use Picasso96.

keropi · 06 December 2006, 08:15

the sercet to succeed it to use CGX4

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04 December 2006, 21:01	#1
superBuster superFreak Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: planet earth Age: 51 Posts: 157	cyberstormPPC users, SCSI issues having SCSI issue with my "new" cyberstorm PPC card. Anybody have some experience with this board? help please.

04 December 2006, 21:15	#2
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,918	A3000 or A4000?

04 December 2006, 21:19	#3
superBuster superFreak Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: planet earth Age: 51 Posts: 157	4000 tower

04 December 2006, 21:23	#4
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,918	Hmm, what kind of SCSI issue is it then? The A4000T should have the INT2 line in the fast slot, so no problem there. Are you certain your termination is set up correctly and there is term power on the bus?

04 December 2006, 21:25	#5
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	do you have ACTIVE terminators? u need 2 on the edges of the scsi cable. also as 4000T has a scsi controller, maybe u should enable the SCSI CNR patch on the CSPPC menu?

04 December 2006, 21:36	#6
superBuster superFreak Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: planet earth Age: 51 Posts: 157	hey guys thanks for the help , yes the init 2 it ok. I do have terminators, but I don't think they are hook up correct. Also there is and issue with the internal scsi on the tower. I installled OS3.1 on th einternal scsi bus (internal to the tower) I noticed that the interal scsi is not terminated, the card is non standard, once I put the cs pps in there I can;t see any drives and jsut get the rom image.....

04 December 2006, 21:52	#7
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	use this simple-cheap-last-minute diagram to see how to connect the stuff on the scsi chain. put a different ID on the CD and HD and don't make them terminate the chain, better use 2 seperate terminators. Sorry but I cannot help u with the other external/a4000T scsi stuff, I only had a 4000D...

04 December 2006, 22:15	#8
superBuster superFreak Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: planet earth Age: 51 Posts: 157	nice diagram! I will try this. I hear something about the the tower version that scarfes me, the internal scsi used the same interrups as the csppc? is this true? how do you disable the local tower scsi? So many questions! I just want the thing to work, I have spend a week of spare time fiddeling already!

04 December 2006, 22:32	#9
superBuster superFreak Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: planet earth Age: 51 Posts: 157	@ keropi what scsi id's are you using? What id is your pps board set to?

04 December 2006, 22:58	#10
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	the HD is set to ID #1 and the CD to ID #2 ... csppc has ID #7 hor it's own use, and the connection I have is the same as the diagram I draw... I had troubles too, but now all are much better! here look at my threads: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=25276 http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=25290 http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=25223 I suck lol

04 December 2006, 23:32	#11
X-ray Angry Kid Fan Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: London Posts: 230	@ SuperBuster There is no problem to use A4000T internal SCSI and CyberstormPPC SCSI at the same time. I am using those together right now. I don't know whether the CyberstormPPC saves the boot settings in a kind of flash rom onboard, but I suppose that if it does and the previous owner had it set to disable the internal SCSI then that is why you don't see your Worbench drives when that card is installed. I've had many drives attached to my A4000T internal SCSI and I have never had a problem because of termination. I think the internal controller is much less problematic with regards to termination than the CyberstormPPC SCSI. The other issue with your CyberstormPPC SCSI is probably related to termination, like Keropi says. That thing has to be properly terminated, it is unavoidable.

05 December 2006, 07:39	#12
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	@ SuperBuster have u checked the csppc boot menu? hold ESC during a boot until you see it, and check the SCSI section...

05 December 2006, 16:51	#13
superBuster superFreak Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: planet earth Age: 51 Posts: 157	I got the scsi it to work. I terminated both sides of the cable and turned the scsi patches off. Now I am able to boot from my old scsi drive! The 060 works well. I did however have problems with the ppc part, not sure I'm doing this right. I downloaded some drivers from the old phase 5 site, to update the dms disks I had downloaded form amiga resource site. I also installed warpUP from the os3.9 cd and updated to boing bag 2 with rom update. Funny thing is now I crash right after boot, no button strip or workbench back drop show up. My fear is that the ppc chip is toast, but I'm not sure. I tried the test disk fomr the phase 5 site, but that told me no driver (on the power up test) and hung on the warpOS test. What did I do wrong now... will there be no morph os for me?

05 December 2006, 17:47	#14
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	all the latest drivers/apps u will ever need, are located on (unofficial) PowerUP Support Homepage maintained by DJBase! look there!

05 December 2006, 17:50	#15
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	also, do u have a g-rex or a cybervisionPPC ??? if u do, install the warp3D package and run the gears_ppc tests... or install AmigaAMP and on the settings put the engine to use WarpOS. YOU MUST install the latest WOS version, 5.1 , look on the above link. If the mp3 playback or the gears_test result to a crash then there is some ppc trouble OR a psu trouble. do that and report back here!

05 December 2006, 18:22	#16
superBuster superFreak Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: planet earth Age: 51 Posts: 157	I have a cybervisionPPC as well as a picassoIV. right now I think the picasso is running but the cybervision is also pluged in but is not showing up... man I have so much work to do! So I could be seeing issues with the gfx drivers... first tings first I will install the WOS 5.1 then I will see if I still crash! is there another quick way to test the ppc unit that return alive or dead status?

05 December 2006, 19:24	#18
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	yes, just try amigaAMP with WOS decoding _AFTER_ u install the WOS 5.1 update... also on the site are drivers for the cvision_ppc too!

06 December 2006, 08:11	#19
alewis Monochrome and 8 bit Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Underbarrow, Gods Country Age: 57 Posts: 600	What gfx drivers are you using? There is a problem with Cybergrafix v3 on an 060/OS3.9 rig. Exactly as you describe, too. if thats the case, remove CGX and use Picasso96.

06 December 2006, 08:15	#20
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	the sercet to succeed it to use CGX4

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