A1200 missing port

_ThEcRoW · 27 December 2005, 03:10

Well i recently purchased a spare mobo for my 1200, but i noticed that one of the joy/mouse ports is missing. There are no signs of broken parts or so, and i suspect that the second port was simply detached, as it seems to be one connection that has n othing.
It's a rev 1D4.
So anyone know what is happening with this board?.

_ThEcRoW · 27 December 2005, 03:16

Problem solved. It was what i have thought, as i have seen a photo of a 1d4 mobo and seen the port i'm referring connected via ribbon cable, so hence the fact that no broken/cutted board signs were.
By the way, anyone knows if this type of port is sold in any amiga retailer?.
Thanks.

RetroMan · 27 December 2005, 03:41

Take a spare PC Serial port of an old PeCe (386er/486er) and plug it in

It allready got the right connector at the end of the ribbon cable

_ThEcRoW · 27 December 2005, 15:03

It will work ofr sure?, i didn't know that. Thanks for pointing me out, i will search on an old 486 i have to get this port. One thing i have noticed, is that not on all pc boards those 9 pin ports were attached by ribbon cables, as most of them are directly soldered on the mobo.

_ThEcRoW · 27 December 2005, 15:04

Oh, i forgot to thank you for the tip. Thanks!!!!

RetroMan · 27 December 2005, 19:36

Well, it worked for me

Anyway, on "many" old PeCes those are not soldered because they had seperate I/O Controller cards for serial/parallel .... so you might be lucky

Chain · 28 December 2005, 01:53

Cannibalise something like this

http://ssl.linuxbeach.net/LinuxBeach...l-Card-ISA.jpg

28 December 2005, 01:58

My Rev. 2B board had a small PCB on the end with the mouse port on it. I have no clue why Commodore did that - very odd!

RetroMan · 28 December 2005, 12:28

@MacMiga

There should be no logic on that board and it uses the same plug at the mobo, you can also use the ribbon thingy on that

Chain · 28 December 2005, 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacMiga

My Rev. 2B board had a small PCB on the end with the mouse port on it. I have no clue why Commodore did that - very odd!

cost reduced, large pcbs are expensive to make

_ThEcRoW · 01 January 2006, 15:21

Finally got it from my old 486!!!!.
Thanks a lot.

_ThEcRoW · 10 January 2006, 21:52

Today i plugged all together, but the mouse don't work. I cannot move the pointer, and the odd fact is that the left button act as if it were the right button. Could be that i have plugged it inverse on the mobo?. By the way, the red mark on the cable is matching the mark on the mobo. Maybe this cable is some kind of reversed.
Any help?

Jope · 11 January 2006, 06:24

There's two kinds of cables..

In one sort, the wires correspond to the pin numbers, and in the other the wires correspond to the actual pin positions..

So if you have a D9:

Code:

1 2 3 4 5
 6 7 8 9

The wires in the flat cable can correspond to the D9's pins in the following ways:

123456789
or
162738495

I don't know which one is supported by the A1200, perhaps someone can take a look at theirs.

Methanoid · 11 January 2006, 13:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ThEcRoW

Well i recently purchased a spare mobo for my 1200, but i noticed that one of the joy/mouse ports is missing. There are no signs of broken parts or so, and i suspect that the second port was simply detached, as it seems to be one connection that has n othing.
It's a rev 1D4.
So anyone know what is happening with this board?.

Hey can you tell me the dimensions of this board WITHOUT the mouse port? I am thinking of squeezing one into a PC case

_ThEcRoW · 13 January 2006, 16:40

Mmm, i tried to put it in a pc tower, but the mobo couldn' fit in it. even moving the psu wouldn't leave margin to put it, so finally, i put it in the standard a1200 case. I don't know exactly waht measure it has.
By the way, has anyone on this board know what is the correct pin setup for the mouse port? At the moment i use the mouse via the joystick port, using a program in the cli called setmport, that i use in the startup-sequence to get the mouse usable when workbench loads, but i intend to play games also on the 1200, so i need the mouse to be put on the mouse port and leaving the joy port for my beloved competition pro 5000.
Has anyone figured out the pins?

_ThEcRoW · 02 April 2006, 15:11

Have anyone sorted out the correct pins?

BippyM · 02 April 2006, 15:19

I have the exact same problem (hence no mouse).. If someone could point me to a site with the correct pinouts on the 1200 moby.. I could probably hack the connector to work!

lopos2000 · 02 April 2006, 19:10

Here's what you are looking for: Amiga Mouse/Joy Pins

Methanoid · 03 April 2006, 09:09

Or sell me your board Bip... I need a cut-off one to fit into a tower project!

BippyM · 30 April 2006, 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by lopos2000

Here's what you are looking for: Amiga Mouse/Joy Pins

No that is not the info I need!

On a 1d.4 motherboard there is a pin header that you connect the mouse daughterboard to.. I need the pinout to this so I can butcher the PC serial port I have to work properly

Quote:

Originally Posted by Methanoid

Or sell me your board Bip... I need a cut-off one to fit into a tower project!

hahahahaha.. like that's ever gonna happen

27 December 2005, 03:10	#1
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 942	A1200 missing port Well i recently purchased a spare mobo for my 1200, but i noticed that one of the joy/mouse ports is missing. There are no signs of broken parts or so, and i suspect that the second port was simply detached, as it seems to be one connection that has n othing. It's a rev 1D4. So anyone know what is happening with this board?.

11 January 2006, 06:24	#13
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,910	There's two kinds of cables.. In one sort, the wires correspond to the pin numbers, and in the other the wires correspond to the actual pin positions.. So if you have a D9: Code: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 The wires in the flat cable can correspond to the D9's pins in the following ways: 123456789 or 162738495 I don't know which one is supported by the A1200, perhaps someone can take a look at theirs.

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27 December 2005, 03:16	#2
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 942	Problem solved. It was what i have thought, as i have seen a photo of a 1d4 mobo and seen the port i'm referring connected via ribbon cable, so hence the fact that no broken/cutted board signs were. By the way, anyone knows if this type of port is sold in any amiga retailer?. Thanks.

27 December 2005, 03:41	#3
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Take a spare PC Serial port of an old PeCe (386er/486er) and plug it in It allready got the right connector at the end of the ribbon cable

27 December 2005, 15:03	#4
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 942	It will work ofr sure?, i didn't know that. Thanks for pointing me out, i will search on an old 486 i have to get this port. One thing i have noticed, is that not on all pc boards those 9 pin ports were attached by ribbon cables, as most of them are directly soldered on the mobo.

27 December 2005, 15:04	#5
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 942	Oh, i forgot to thank you for the tip. Thanks!!!!

27 December 2005, 19:36	#6
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Well, it worked for me Anyway, on "many" old PeCes those are not soldered because they had seperate I/O Controller cards for serial/parallel .... so you might be lucky

28 December 2005, 01:53	#7
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	Cannibalise something like this http://ssl.linuxbeach.net/LinuxBeach...l-Card-ISA.jpg

28 December 2005, 01:58	#8
MacMiga Posts: n/a	My Rev. 2B board had a small PCB on the end with the mouse port on it. I have no clue why Commodore did that - very odd!

28 December 2005, 12:28	#9
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	@MacMiga There should be no logic on that board and it uses the same plug at the mobo, you can also use the ribbon thingy on that

01 January 2006, 15:21	#11
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 942	Finally got it from my old 486!!!!. Thanks a lot.

10 January 2006, 21:52	#12
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 942	Today i plugged all together, but the mouse don't work. I cannot move the pointer, and the odd fact is that the left button act as if it were the right button. Could be that i have plugged it inverse on the mobo?. By the way, the red mark on the cable is matching the mark on the mobo. Maybe this cable is some kind of reversed. Any help?

13 January 2006, 16:40	#15
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 942	Mmm, i tried to put it in a pc tower, but the mobo couldn' fit in it. even moving the psu wouldn't leave margin to put it, so finally, i put it in the standard a1200 case. I don't know exactly waht measure it has. By the way, has anyone on this board know what is the correct pin setup for the mouse port? At the moment i use the mouse via the joystick port, using a program in the cli called setmport, that i use in the startup-sequence to get the mouse usable when workbench loads, but i intend to play games also on the 1200, so i need the mouse to be put on the mouse port and leaving the joy port for my beloved competition pro 5000. Has anyone figured out the pins?

02 April 2006, 15:11	#16
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 942	Have anyone sorted out the correct pins?

02 April 2006, 15:19	#17
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	I have the exact same problem (hence no mouse).. If someone could point me to a site with the correct pinouts on the 1200 moby.. I could probably hack the connector to work!

02 April 2006, 19:10	#18
lopos2000 Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cider is best In The West Posts: 1,238	Here's what you are looking for: Amiga Mouse/Joy Pins

03 April 2006, 09:09	#19
Methanoid Retired Quartex Sysop Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Roman Verulamium Age: 58 Posts: 1,874	Or sell me your board Bip... I need a cut-off one to fit into a tower project!

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