An AmigaOS bug I keep witnessing since 90s

ancalimon · 17 March 2024, 19:06

I have seen this bug happen with AmigaOS 3.0, 3.1, 3.5, 3.9 and also 3.2

While IBrowse is loading a page; especially a heavy page with ssls and stuff, (in this case I just logged in to EAB), It would occasionally freeze the Amiga if I was holding the right mouse button to view some menus.

Did anyone else witness this?

Thomas Richter · 17 March 2024, 21:58

This does not sound like a bug to me. It is likely that IBrowse is requesting a MENUVERIFY IDCMP flag which means that intuition blocks until this message is reacted upon. If IBrowse is busy rendering, the system will not respond until IBrowse has found the time to react on the message.

Matt_H · 18 March 2024, 01:25

I think this is more of a "feature." And it's not just IBrowse - most menus block Intuition until the flag is acted upon, including Workbench. It just happens to be more noticeable in IBrowse.

OS4.0+ introduced an option for non-blocking menus - not sure if it's only for Workbench or if it's system-wide.

ancalimon · 18 March 2024, 12:47

By freezing, I don't mean menus freezing everything temporarily until you release the button. I mean everything freezes forcing you to reboot.

Reynolds · 18 March 2024, 13:26

it seems to be a bug in your system. The one was described by Matt_H is a known feature of the OS IIRC, it was even discussed decades ago that it has it's impact on system clock as well, but if a system stops at all, then there is something else happening.

Futaura · 25 March 2024, 22:06

Which version of MUI? There is a bug relating to menus in MUI 3.8 that could not be worked around in IBrowse. I would suggest trying MUI 3.9 instead to see if that helps, as the bug I'm thinking about was fixed in 3.9.

ancalimon · 26 March 2024, 17:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Futaura

Which version of MUI? There is a bug relating to menus in MUI 3.8 that could not be worked around in IBrowse. I would suggest trying MUI 3.9 instead to see if that helps, as the bug I'm thinking about was fixed in 3.9.

The system is pure 3.2 (plus needed libraries) with mui5 installed. Using P96 here for CVisionPPC.

It also happens with 3.1 (mui 3.8 there) and 3.9 from time to time.

17 March 2024, 19:06	#1
ancalimon Supernormal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Istanbul / Turkey Age: 43 Posts: 1,414	An AmigaOS bug I keep witnessing since 90s I have seen this bug happen with AmigaOS 3.0, 3.1, 3.5, 3.9 and also 3.2 While IBrowse is loading a page; especially a heavy page with ssls and stuff, (in this case I just logged in to EAB), It would occasionally freeze the Amiga if I was holding the right mouse button to view some menus. Did anyone else witness this?

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17 March 2024, 21:58	#2
Thomas Richter Registered User Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Germany Posts: 3,252	This does not sound like a bug to me. It is likely that IBrowse is requesting a MENUVERIFY IDCMP flag which means that intuition blocks until this message is reacted upon. If IBrowse is busy rendering, the system will not respond until IBrowse has found the time to react on the message.

18 March 2024, 01:25	#3
Matt_H Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 945	I think this is more of a "feature." And it's not just IBrowse - most menus block Intuition until the flag is acted upon, including Workbench. It just happens to be more noticeable in IBrowse. OS4.0+ introduced an option for non-blocking menus - not sure if it's only for Workbench or if it's system-wide.

18 March 2024, 12:47	#4
ancalimon Supernormal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Istanbul / Turkey Age: 43 Posts: 1,414	By freezing, I don't mean menus freezing everything temporarily until you release the button. I mean everything freezes forcing you to reboot.

18 March 2024, 13:26	#5
Reynolds Alien Breeder Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Szigetszentmiklos / Hungary Age: 46 Posts: 1,108	it seems to be a bug in your system. The one was described by Matt_H is a known feature of the OS IIRC, it was even discussed decades ago that it has it's impact on system clock as well, but if a system stops at all, then there is something else happening.

25 March 2024, 22:06	#6
Futaura Registered User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 198	Which version of MUI? There is a bug relating to menus in MUI 3.8 that could not be worked around in IBrowse. I would suggest trying MUI 3.9 instead to see if that helps, as the bug I'm thinking about was fixed in 3.9.

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