The Installer Tool ...... out of package ?

15 December 2008, 15:03

Why the Installer Tool required by WHDLoad to be installed ......
IS NOT inside the package that i downloaded from http://www.whdload.de/ ?

Retro-Nerd · 15 December 2008, 15:07

You need the Installer for ALL programs with an installer script. It "should" be already placed in c:

http://kgwhd.whdownload.com/files.php

Wepl · 15 December 2008, 15:07

to save space, but these days it's maybe not that important anymore, so I will inlcude it in the next release

15 December 2008, 15:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wepl

to save space, but these days it's maybe not that important anymore, so I will inlcude it in the next release

Exactly what i'm thinking about

Thanks

And what about the various kickstart files needed by some games,
they could be also included in the WHDLoad package ?

Graham Humphrey · 15 December 2008, 15:44

Well not the actual kickstarts of course

The RTB files are on SKick on Aminet, they're not exactly hard to get hold of, ditto the Installer.

TCD · 15 December 2008, 15:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Another World

And what about the various kickstart files needed by some games,
they could be also included in the WHDLoad package ?

They are still copyrighted, so you'll have to provide them yourself. Maybe the PAT and RTB files could be included though

haynor666 · 17 December 2008, 09:24

Those files are easy to found on aminet but true, might be easier to include them with WHDLoad. Of course without ROM files

17 December 2008, 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by haynor

Those files are easy to found on aminet but true, might be easier to include them with WHDLoad. Of course without ROM files

Out of curiosity:
but this copyright on ROM will fade away one day ?
There's some expiration time ?

killergorilla · 17 December 2008, 17:38

Not if Cloanto have anything to do with it.

Toni Wilen · 17 December 2008, 17:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

Not if Cloanto have anything to do with it.

Very wrong. Cloanto also wants it to be free but there is one issue that begins with A.

killergorilla · 17 December 2008, 18:02

But how will they replace the millions of pounds they make from selling the roms with Amiga Forever?

Toni Wilen · 17 December 2008, 18:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

But how will they replace the millions of pounds they make from selling the roms with Amiga Forever?

Don't know and don't care but I do know they want free ROMs. (really nice "logic" in your posts, btw..)

killergorilla · 17 December 2008, 18:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Don't know and don't care but I do know they want free ROMs. (really nice "logic" in your posts, btw..)

I'm sure you'll get over it.

Quick question though, if Cloanto want free ROMS why go after websites which share the kickstart roms and try to have them closed?

Sales of Amiga Forever would drop if the ROMS were freed.

Toni Wilen · 17 December 2008, 18:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

I'm sure you'll get over it.

Quick question though, if Cloanto want free ROMS why go after websites which share the kickstart roms and try to have them closed?

Sales of Amiga Forever would drop if the ROMS were freed.

Much better logic this time

Answer still is the same: I don't know or care.

killergorilla · 17 December 2008, 18:22

I Care!

Ok, maybe not.

Aaaaaaaaaaaanyway, I'm done here.

Marcuz · 17 December 2008, 19:02

it's just an assumtion on my part, to set some ease, but i would think this:

carrying a licence of distribution for a product copyrighted to a third part (in this case the problem beginning with A.) invests the licence holder of the legal responsibility to protect the licence being infringed to detriment of the copyright holder, who, in turn, would take action on Cloanto in case of allegedly damaged interest.

other than that, as Toni, i don't know and i don't care

haynor666 · 17 December 2008, 21:28

I don't care too, I have them and that's all.

killergorilla · 18 December 2008, 09:10

The problem with bundling the installer with whdload is which version do you include? The latest is 44.10 but that doesn't work on all processors.

You may need to include 44.10 and 43.3 (I think that's the correct number)

Wepl · 18 December 2008, 10:34

On which processors does the 44.10 not work?
I never heard about such an incompatibility.

killergorilla · 18 December 2008, 10:47

People have reported getting the following error:

Installer Program Failed (error #80000003)
Wait for disk activity to finish

Suspend Reboot

Toni stated in a previous thread that it "Probably requires 68020+ CPU"

See: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=37311

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15 December 2008, 15:07	#2
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,453	You need the Installer for ALL programs with an installer script. It "should" be already placed in c: http://kgwhd.whdownload.com/files.php

15 December 2008, 15:07	#3
Wepl Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 869	to save space, but these days it's maybe not that important anymore, so I will inlcude it in the next release

15 December 2008, 15:44	#5
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Well not the actual kickstarts of course The RTB files are on SKick on Aminet, they're not exactly hard to get hold of, ditto the Installer.

17 December 2008, 09:24	#7
haynor666 retro maniac Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tarnobrzeg/Poland Age: 45 Posts: 1,759	Those files are easy to found on aminet but true, might be easier to include them with WHDLoad. Of course without ROM files

17 December 2008, 17:38	#9
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Not if Cloanto have anything to do with it.

17 December 2008, 18:02	#11
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	But how will they replace the millions of pounds they make from selling the roms with Amiga Forever?

17 December 2008, 18:22	#15
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	I Care! Ok, maybe not. Aaaaaaaaaaaanyway, I'm done here.

17 December 2008, 19:02	#16
Marcuz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 48 Posts: 5,562	it's just an assumtion on my part, to set some ease, but i would think this: carrying a licence of distribution for a product copyrighted to a third part (in this case the problem beginning with A.) invests the licence holder of the legal responsibility to protect the licence being infringed to detriment of the copyright holder, who, in turn, would take action on Cloanto in case of allegedly damaged interest. other than that, as Toni, i don't know and i don't care

17 December 2008, 21:28	#17
haynor666 retro maniac Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tarnobrzeg/Poland Age: 45 Posts: 1,759	I don't care too, I have them and that's all.

18 December 2008, 09:10	#18
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	The problem with bundling the installer with whdload is which version do you include? The latest is 44.10 but that doesn't work on all processors. You may need to include 44.10 and 43.3 (I think that's the correct number)

18 December 2008, 10:34	#19
Wepl Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 869	On which processors does the 44.10 not work? I never heard about such an incompatibility.

18 December 2008, 10:47	#20
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	People have reported getting the following error: Installer Program Failed (error #80000003) Wait for disk activity to finish Suspend Reboot Toni stated in a previous thread that it "Probably requires 68020+ CPU" See: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=37311

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