GameBase Amiga 2.0

[bobrpggamer]

Originally Posted by Seiya

i don't remember if i changed something because GameBase 2.0 lacking somefiles when i download it.

games whdload i left original gamebas 2.0 files, however as soon as i send you these files.





true, you right

however watching my GameBase 2.0 directory i think to have the files that you have. i think i added roms.
WinUAE is the 3.2.2 version

Well the kickstarts are obviously not available there, just the dat to rebuild from your own collection, so I figure you must have used the right kickstart for these games. I may try some of mine from my Amiga Forever DVD and maybe that will make the difference.

Another thing I really do not understand is the lack of the SPS disks on the FTP, they are available in the TOSEC section so why would they not be unavailable? I rebuilt mine with the dat and I could upload the full pack as well but maybe there is a reason that they are not included.

I also found some content missing when I did a "verify available files" and I found the files and renamed them and added the ones missing. One of the files was a music file from the ACP & TCP so that one would be missing. I am afraid to upload the renamed files even without the ACP & TCP music file, there must be some reason their not their, I do not know.

The SPS files missing just need a "." at the end, some Screenshots need the "_" removed from the end.

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by bobrpggamer

Another thing I really do not understand is the lack of the SPS disks on the FTP, they are available in the TOSEC section so why would they not be unavailable? I rebuilt mine with the dat and I could upload the full pack as well but maybe there is a reason that they are not included.

What do you mean? You can find SPS / IPFs on the "EAB File Server" here:

... /Commodore_Amiga/TOSEC/TOSEC [2016-01-03]/Commodore Amiga - Coverdisks - SPS (TOSEC-v2015-06-27_CM)
... /Commodore_Amiga/TOSEC/TOSEC [2016-01-03]/Commodore Amiga - Educational - SPS (TOSEC-v2015-04-23_CM)
... /Commodore_Amiga/TOSEC/TOSEC [2016-01-03]/Commodore Amiga - Games - SPS (TOSEC-v2015-06-27_CM)
... /Commodore_Amiga/TOSEC/TOSEC Updates/TOSEC Release (v2018-12-27) updates/Coverdisks - SPS
... /Commodore_Amiga/TOSEC/TOSEC Updates/TOSEC Release (v2018-12-27) updates/Educational - SPS
... /Commodore_Amiga/TOSEC/TOSEC Updates/TOSEC Release (v2018-12-27) updates/Games - SPS
... /Commodore_Amiga/TOSEC/[not in TOSEC] IPFs - Official
... /Commodore_Amiga/TOSEC/[not in TOSEC] IPFs - Unofficial
... etc.

Originally Posted by bobrpggamer

One of the files was a music file from the ACP & TCP so that one would be missing. I am afraid to upload the renamed files even without the ACP & TCP music file, there must be some reason their not their, I do not know.

You will not find any ACP & TCP files / content on the EAB File Server, in Gamebase Amiga, WHDLoad preinstalled archives or allowed in The Zone!

AndreasM of Amiga Future is still selling a lot of this stuff so we need to respect that.

[Retro-Nerd]

TOSEC naming isn't working for Gamebase Amiga. You need specific folders and renamed file/zip archives. Then the Gamebase scanner will find them. The required SPS dat file with a .bat for mass sorting/renaming is here

Commodore_Amiga/GameBase Amiga 2/!Dats/ = check the readme too

Though it's dated 27.12.2015. Everything after that isn't recognized through the scanner. Don't know if there are newer dat files for Gamebase Amiga.

[bobrpggamer]

Originally Posted by DamienD

What do you mean? You can find SPS / IPFs on the "EAB File Server" here:

... /Commodore_Amiga/TOSEC/TOSEC [2016-01-03]/Commodore Amiga - Coverdisks - SPS (TOSEC-v2015-06-27_CM)
... /Commodore_Amiga/TOSEC/TOSEC [2016-01-03]/Commodore Amiga - Educational - SPS (TOSEC-v2015-04-23_CM)
... /Commodore_Amiga/TOSEC/TOSEC [2016-01-03]/Commodore Amiga - Games - SPS (TOSEC-v2015-06-27_CM)
... /Commodore_Amiga/TOSEC/TOSEC Updates/TOSEC Release (v2018-12-27) updates/Coverdisks - SPS
... /Commodore_Amiga/TOSEC/TOSEC Updates/TOSEC Release (v2018-12-27) updates/Educational - SPS
... /Commodore_Amiga/TOSEC/TOSEC Updates/TOSEC Release (v2018-12-27) updates/Games - SPS
... /Commodore_Amiga/TOSEC/[not in TOSEC] IPFs - Official
... /Commodore_Amiga/TOSEC/[not in TOSEC] IPFs - Unofficial
... etc.


You will not find any ACP & TCP files / content on the EAB File Server, in Gamebase Amiga, WHDLoad preinstalled archives or allowed in The Zone!

AndreasM of Amiga Future is still selling a lot of this stuff so we need to respect that.

I said you cannot find the Gamebase labeled and sorted pack, you know the complete folder "1" to folder "3001", you just have to build it from the dat instead of folder already built lableded SPS with all the IPFs libeled and ready to just drop in the extras folder.

I was already aware about the ACP & TCP warning on the FTP so I knew why that one was missing.

TOSEC naming isn't working for Gamebase Amiga. You need specific folders and renamed file/zip archives. Then the Gamebase scanner will find them. The required SPS dat file with a .bat for mass sorting/renaming is here

Commodore_Amiga/GameBase Amiga 2/!Dats/ = check the readme too

Though it's dated 27.12.2015. Everything after that isn't recognized through the scanner. Don't know if there are newer dat files for Gamebase Amiga.

I got the SPS games built into the SPS folder with the dat, but why is this already made SPS folder not available? That was the question. I had no problem making it with my ClrMamePro and the Dat as well as the nice bat file to organize them but suppose some guys are not familiar with building rom sets, the question would be why not just add the ready SPS pack on the FTP.

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by bobrpggamer

I got the SPS games built into the SPS folder with the dat, but why is this already made SPS folder not available? That was the question. I had no problem making it with my ClrMamePro and the Dat as well as the nice bat file to organize them but suppose some guys are not familiar with building rom sets, the question would be why not just add the ready SPS pack on the FTP.

Because uploading SPS / IPFs on EAB was not allowed out of respect to the SPS Team, since time began...

This finally changed on the 29th of June 2018, see this thread and RCK's approval for removal here.

I guess since the rule change, no one has bothered to get all the Gamebase Amiga SPS files collected / sorted and finally uploaded to the EAB File Server.

[bobrpggamer]

Originally Posted by DamienD

Because uploading SPS / IPFs on EAB was not allowed out of respect to the SPS Team, since time began...

This finally changed on the 29th of June 2018, see this thread and RCK's approval for removal here.

I guess since the rule change, no one has bothered to get all the Gamebase Amiga SPS files collected / sorted and finally uploaded to the EAB File Server.

Well I will upload it but where should I put it?

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by bobrpggamer

Well I will upload it but where should I put it?

You can only upload to your own folder.

Afterwards though, I could move everything to say either:

• /Commodore_Amiga/GameBase Amiga 2/Games/_SPS
• /Commodore_Amiga/GameBase Amiga 2/Extras/SPS

[bobrpggamer]

Originally Posted by DamienD

You can only upload to your own folder.

Afterwards though, I could move everything to say either:

• /Commodore_Amiga/GameBase Amiga 2/Games/_SPS
• /Commodore_Amiga/GameBase Amiga 2/Extras/SPS

The dat has 6 filenames names incorrect with the Gamebase Amiga 2.0 database. These games here:

SPS\801\0859_Bonanza Bros..zip
SPS\1401\1422_Super Monaco G.P..zip
SPS\601\0720_S.D.I..zip
SPS\2201\2293_Smash T.V..zip
SPS\2601\2601_Snow Bros..zip
SPS\201\0212_Chase H.Q..zip

These games need a "." at the end of the filename, so I will add the renamed ones instead of the names in the dat.

Uploading now.

[vbs]

Big thanks, Sir! I downloaded your files and built a 100% set of SPS 2.0 using clrmamepro. Awesome!

[vbs]

Well, I have problems verifiying the normal ADF-set using clrmamepro. Some CRCs from the DAT are not matching the ADF-files on the FTP.

1497 - Five Years After [folder: 1497 - Five Years After - size: 880kb]
missing set: 1497 - Five Years After
missing rom: 1497 - Five Years After.adf [size: 901120] [CRC32: c88dbd10]

Aerial Racers_Disk1 [folder: Aerial Racers_Disk1 - size: 880kb]
missing set: Aerial Racers_Disk1
missing rom: Aerial Racers_Disk1.adf [size: 901120] [CRC32: 309bb11b]

Aquaventura_Disk2 [folder: Aquaventura_Disk2 - size: 880kb]
missing set: Aquaventura_Disk2
missing rom: Aquaventura_Disk2.adf [size: 901120] [CRC32: b1ae8311]

Fightin' Spirit_Disk1 [folder: Fightin' Spirit_Disk1 - size: 880kb]
missing set: Fightin' Spirit_Disk1
missing rom: Fightin' Spirit_Disk1.adf [size: 901120] [CRC32: abe17260]

Fightin' Spirit_Disk2 [folder: Fightin' Spirit_Disk2 - size: 880kb]
missing set: Fightin' Spirit_Disk2
missing rom: Fightin' Spirit_Disk2.adf [size: 901120] [CRC32: b0bd3a32]

Fightin' Spirit_Disk3 [folder: Fightin' Spirit_Disk3 - size: 880kb]
missing set: Fightin' Spirit_Disk3
missing rom: Fightin' Spirit_Disk3.adf [size: 901120] [CRC32: b59d76f4]

Fightin' Spirit_Disk4 [folder: Fightin' Spirit_Disk4 - size: 880kb]
missing set: Fightin' Spirit_Disk4
missing rom: Fightin' Spirit_Disk4.adf [size: 901120] [CRC32: 39ec9946]

Gauntlet [folder: Gauntlet - size: 880kb]
missing set: Gauntlet
missing rom: Gauntlet.adf [size: 901120] [CRC32: aa905e3f]

Ghosts 'N' Goblins [folder: Ghosts 'N' Goblins - size: 880kb]
missing set: Ghosts 'N' Goblins
missing rom: Ghosts 'N' Goblins.adf [size: 901120] [CRC32: dea1a671]

Operation Stealth_Disk1 [folder: Operation Stealth_Disk1 - size: 880kb]
missing set: Operation Stealth_Disk1
missing rom: Operation Stealth_Disk1.adf [size: 901120] [CRC32: f3f9dfcb]

Operation Stealth_Disk2 [folder: Operation Stealth_Disk2 - size: 880kb]
missing set: Operation Stealth_Disk2
missing rom: Operation Stealth_Disk2.adf [size: 901120] [CRC32: 8b573e23]

Operation Stealth_Disk3 [folder: Operation Stealth_Disk3 - size: 880kb]
missing set: Operation Stealth_Disk3
missing rom: Operation Stealth_Disk3.adf [size: 901120] [CRC32: 4f572886]

Psyborg_Disk1 [folder: Psyborg_Disk1 - size: 880kb]
missing set: Psyborg_Disk1
missing rom: Psyborg_Disk1.adf [size: 901120] [CRC32: 2e84912c]

Warp [folder: Warp - size: 880kb]
missing set: Warp
missing rom: Warp.adf [size: 901120] [CRC32: 2e8dc484]

This was scanned against the DAT-file from the FTP-archive "Dat - GameBase Amiga - Games (v2.1).zip". So according to that DAT "Warp" is supposed to have a CRC32 of "2e8dc484".

But for the actual Warp.adf from the directory /Commodore_Amiga/GameBase Amiga 2/Games/W clrmamepro gives me:

Path:	X:\Arcade\!Amiga\GameBase Amiga v2.x (from eab-FTP)\Games\W\Warp.zip
Name:	Warp.adf
Size:	901120
CRC32:	1d6702d9
MD5:	7268bac398a2f5dbbcc9b91deaa44fa2
SHA1:	e75bbda2200861bac43913f375c9eb33f85a4813

Any ideas?

[DamienD]

Lots of these games were fixed from memory, so Belgarath would have updated them on the FTP server, but I guess didn't update the .DAT files...

Here's some details that I remember:

• Aerial Racers_Disk1 - Informed Belgo that the disk he was using had an annoying ENV requestor on bootup, I found a better disk so he updated.
• Fightin' Spirit_Disk1 - 4 - Would be the new crack / set that Psygore did, see this thread.
• Ghosts 'N' Goblins - Would be the new 100% working / fixed Flashtro crack, see this thread.
• Operation Stealth_Disk1 - 3 - Would be Galahad's new crack / set.
• Warp - Would probably be the new crack from Flashtro, see this thread.
• etc...

The ones from the FTP Server are the ones you should use

Also, you need to remember that Belgarath hasn't published any further work with this since 2016...

You might be best asking for an updated .DAT over at the Gamebase 64 forums under the dedicated section: Commodore Amiga - GameBase Amiga.

[vbs]

Ok, thanks alot, I will ask there again.

It puzzles me that the archive of the DAT explicitly states to be version 2.1: "Dat - GameBase Amiga - Games (v2.1).zip".

But I was even suprised to see "2.1" as everyone in the forums is talking only about 2.0. Is there something odd about 2.1?`

EDIT:
The CRC of "Warp" in that DAT actually seems to be the version from GB1.6:

Path:	X:\Arcade\!Amiga\GameBase Amiga v1.6\Games\W\Warp.zip
Name:	Warp.adf
Size:	901120
CRC32:	2e8dc484
MD5:	19a766eb92021d5a220ac1ed840b6ac5
SHA1:	5c873402c3d845c741cd4276800c58a7b44bc2d3

[DamienD]

Sorry, I can't answer your questions as have never used Gamebase Amiga; I use my own collection instead

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by bobrpggamer

The dat has 6 filenames names incorrect with the Gamebase Amiga 2.0 database. These games here:

SPS\801\0859_Bonanza Bros..zip
SPS\1401\1422_Super Monaco G.P..zip
SPS\601\0720_S.D.I..zip
SPS\2201\2293_Smash T.V..zip
SPS\2601\2601_Snow Bros..zip
SPS\201\0212_Chase H.Q..zip

These games need a "." at the end of the filename, so I will add the renamed ones instead of the names in the dat.

Uploading now.

Thanks

...have now moved the directory from:

/~Uploads/bobrpggamer/Gamebase Amiga 2.0 SPS Games

-->

/Commodore_Amiga/GameBase Amiga 2/Extras/Gamebase Amiga 2.0 SPS Games

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by DamienD

Lots of these games were fixed from memory, so Belgarath would have updated them on the FTP server, but I guess didn't update the .DAT files...

Here's some details that I remember:

• Aerial Racers_Disk1 - Informed Belgo that the disk he was using had an annoying ENV requestor on bootup, I found a better disk so he updated.
• Fightin' Spirit_Disk1 - 4 - Would be the new crack / set that Psygore did, see this thread.
• Ghosts 'N' Goblins - Would be the new 100% working / fixed Flashtro crack, see this thread.
• Operation Stealth_Disk1 - 3 - Would be Galahad's new crack / set.
• Warp - Would probably be the new crack from Flashtro, see this thread.
• etc...

The ones from the FTP Server are the ones you should use

Home now and have checked all files that you listed in post #211.

What I've written above regarding newer / better disks is 100% correct; also checked the other files you listed... you should definitely be using the ones from the "EAB File Server"

Someone should really update the .DAT to reflect these better files.

[vbs]

I wrote a small script to create a DAT-file from the current FTP contents. So it is not a well defined version but just a snapshot from the current state. Maybe someone else has use for it also.

EDIT:
Well, I should have gone for XML format instead of this clrmamepro format, yes? :/

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by vbs

EDIT:
Well, I should have gone for XML format instead of this clrmamepro format, yes? :/

No, ClrMAMEPro format is definitely the way to go

For over two decades now, it's been the definitive tool for organising ROM sets / files across multiple different systems

[Retroplay]

Old Clrmame format is deprecated and has been for quite a while now.
XML is the way to go.

Clrmame also defaults to XML when using Dir2dat, which is what I use to make the dats for WHDLoad.

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by Retroplay

Old Clrmame format is deprecated and has been for quite a while now.
XML is the way to go.

Yup sorry, looking at any of the different system .DAT files that I use, they are in .XML format e.g. TOSEC:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE datafile PUBLIC "-//Logiqx//DTD ROM Management Datafile//EN" "http://www.logiqx.com/Dats/datafile.dtd">
<datafile>
 <header>
  <name>Commodore Amiga - Games - [ADF]</name>
  <description>Commodore Amiga - Games - [ADF] (TOSEC-v2018-12-13)</description>
  <category>TOSEC</category>
  <version>2018-12-13</version>
  <author>Crashdisk - mai - idoru - Belgarath - BippyM - CRSV - DesertWolf - morph72</author>
  <email>contact@tosecdev.org</email>
  <homepage>TOSEC</homepage>
  <url>http://www.tosecdev.org</url>
 </header>

[vbs]

Yeah I was quite surprised that people still using the extension ".dat" but actually it's XML inside.
So here as XML...

BTW for multi-disk games I merged all disks into a single game. Don't know if this is approriate for someone else than me but I can provide a split version too if needed.