REQ: Scene group names proof

DH · 21 November 2010, 19:43

As I have many group names unproven in my spreadsheet, I decided to create this thread to help in an ongoing quest that'll help the guys in TOSEC.

EDIT: Anything that can be proven with an abbreviation can you please post the results in this thread instead, thanks http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=20793

I'll Start with the groups that start with numbers as there is only a few of them

500 Things (not 100% sure about this one)

4-Ward

5th Dynasty

666 Inc

Oh, and could a GM add 'REQ:' to the beginning of the thread title, somehow I forgot :s

Edit: The group names I couldn't find anything about are :-

100%
10-Points
17 Bit Software (presumably 17Bit, but I cannot rule out if they were a different group or not)
2 Static
4-Track Magic
9 Design

So if anybody can help to prove these groups would be really appreciated

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Galahad/FLT · 21 November 2010, 20:26

17 Bit Software were not a group, they were a PD company setup by Martyn Brown who went on to help found Team 17 (hence the 17 in the name!).

PandMonium · 21 November 2010, 21:13

Hi guys|
If you don't mind i will give some more names starting with numbers:

Code:

Group: "17-Bot Software"
Sets: Mr. Potato Head in the Chips Are Up (1991-08-27)(Hill, Chris)[m 17-Bot Software]

Notes: This is almost surely a typo, should be "17-Bit Software", Galahad gave us a great explanation on what it is

"17-Bit Software" appears on a lot of sets supposely doing some modifications, hence i though it was a scene group.

Code:

Examples:
"Amplifier II, The (1991)(Dimension 4)(Disk 2 of 2)[m 17-Bit Software]"
"Amy Vs. Walker Demo (1990)(Schwartz, Eric W.)[m 17-Bit Software][WB]"

Code:

Group: "2703 Group"
Sets: Pac-Mania (1988)(Grandslam)[cr 2703 Group - Wild Riders]
(dat: Commodore Amiga - Games - [ADF])

Code:

Group: "79th Trac"
Sets: "Montage 24 AGA (199x)(InnoVision Technology)(Disk 1 of 6)[h 79th Trac][HD]" to Disk 6.
(dat: Commodore Amiga - Applications - [ADF])

Notes: I've never seen this one, you? I suspect it is not a group, probably it was meant to be some descriptor of the hack?

Code:

Group: "976 Evil"
Sets: PhotoWorkX v1.71 (1994)(Corporate Media)[cr TRD - 976 Evil]

Notes: Probably just a guy/scener and not a group?

DH · 22 November 2010, 13:54

2703 group is a C64 scene group http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=22730 Possibly moving into the realms of the Amiga, but I can't find any productions regarding the Amiga yet. You probably already know that of course

DH · 22 November 2010, 20:16

A.A.C. (Doesn't appear to be an abbreviation)

ABC-Killers

Ability

Abnormalia

Absence

Abel

AVS (Anything with this presumably belongs to Alex Van Starrex who is neither a group nor a scener)

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PandMonium · 22 November 2010, 22:26

Strange, i guess A.A.C must mean something, pouet also as A.A.C.

About Alex Van Starrex, it's a person. Probably a developer that coded some tools, 3 sets in TOSEC:

Code:

Commodore Amiga - Demos - Music:
Med-Tunes (1991-11)(Alex Van Starrex)
Octastuff (19xx)(Alex Van Starrex)

Commodore Amiga - Demos - Various - [ADF]:
Octarock-3D (1991-10)(Alex Van Starrex)[WB]

These should be fixed since we use (surname, names) for persons :P

DH · 22 November 2010, 23:11

Absurd

Abstract

Abusive

Accept

Accooon

Acidforce (could also be Acid Force)

Acheron

Academy

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PandMonium · 23 November 2010, 01:46

Thanks!
Pouet agrees with you on Acid Force

edit: starting also with a number, i remembered the group "2000 A.D.". I think it is known but what i can't get is a proof or hint about their abbreviation. We have like 36 references for "2KAD" in amiga sets. Is it a valid abbreviation? Any idea?

DH · 23 November 2010, 13:49

Just for you PandMonium http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=717543#post717543 That'll make your day

EDIT: ACME vs ACME Factories

http://kestra.exotica.org.uk/demo.php?id=28409 ACME
http://kestra.exotica.org.uk/demo.php?id=484 ACME Factories

Both groups appear to have the same members in these two productions. So are ACME & ACME Factories the same group, obviously ACME Factories being their full name?

EDIT2:

Acon

Acrid

Act

Active Line (4th - 6th Image)

Acume

Adict

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PandMonium · 23 November 2010, 20:01

Well, i don't know. They could be the same but exotica may have some errors too. There seems to have been various groups named Acme:
http://kestra.exotica.org.uk/demos.p...oup&query=Acme
That single swedish "Acme" entry could be from "Acme Factories" since they share one of the members.

Thanks for the others too.

DH · 23 November 2010, 21:36

Addict (Not the same as Adict)

Admirals (Abbreviation hint ADM but requires proof)

Adroit

Advance

Aero

Agency

Agents

Aggressors

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DH · 24 November 2010, 16:25

Acme Factories

Agile (No proof for the Abb yet)

Agoa

Agony

Airwalk

Alarm

Alchemy

Acid Support Group

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PandMonium · 24 November 2010, 17:19

Thanks.
2 questions: Alarm or Alarm-UK (i guess the 1st);
Acid/ACID or "Acid Support Group"? (I went for the 2nd on this one, although there are 2 sets from a group named ACID)

DH · 24 November 2010, 19:55

I'm fine with whatever you think PandMonium

Aldi (Shopping trolleys at the ready

)

Alfa Crew

Alien Force

Aliens

Alive

Alien Adenoids

Alienation

Alliance

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DH · 24 November 2010, 22:05

Amiga Army

Alphawave Association

Alpha

Altair

Altered Brains

Amaze

Ambrosia (Abbreviation hint A!A but requires proof)

Amega Industries

EDIT: Admirals in post #11 are also supposed to use the abbreviation ADM but I can't find proof yet

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PandMonium · 24 November 2010, 22:56

For "Amaze" i see sets using both "Amaze" and "Amaze!" in TOSEC in various dats like:
Commodore Amiga - Demos - Music
Commodore Amiga - Demos - Packs
Commodore Amiga - Demos - Various - [ADF]

This needs to be fixed if they are the same group :P

DH · 25 November 2010, 12:47

Spiritual Connection (19xx)(Amaze!)[m Warlocks].adf

Just checked this one and the Demo screen only states 'Amaze' and not 'Amaze!' So it looks like the '!' has filtered in from somewhere.

So this one should really read 'Spiritual Connection (19xx)(Amaze)[m Warlocks].adf'

I also checked this one too 'Electrical Ecstasy (19xx)(Amaze!)[m Warlocks].adf' and although the first page states 'Amaze!' a few screens down the line, when the demo really starts, it only States 'Amaze' without the '!'

And again, this one should read 'Electrical Ecstasy (19xx)(Amaze)[m Warlocks].adf'

Hopefully that'll be enough proof to remove and rename the sets although I think someone should check some of the stuff in :-

Commodore Amiga - Demos - Music
Commodore Amiga - Demos - Packs

Just to be on the safe side

EDIT:

Amigans

Amiga Circle

Amiga Lords

Amiga Lovers

Amiga Syndrome

Aminox

Amitech (from Switzerland)

Amnesia

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DH · 30 November 2010, 14:11

Amnesia

Amonia

Anal Intruders (Abbreviation hint = AI)

Analog (Abbreviation hint = ALG)

Analogy

Anathema

Andromeda (Abbreviation hint AOA)

Anchovy Sisters

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PandMonium · 30 November 2010, 20:02

done! thanks

21 November 2010, 21:13	#3
PandMonium Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 408	Hi guys\| If you don't mind i will give some more names starting with numbers: Code: Group: "17-Bot Software" Sets: Mr. Potato Head in the Chips Are Up (1991-08-27)(Hill, Chris)[m 17-Bot Software] Notes: This is almost surely a typo, should be "17-Bit Software", Galahad gave us a great explanation on what it is "17-Bit Software" appears on a lot of sets supposely doing some modifications, hence i though it was a scene group. Code: Examples: "Amplifier II, The (1991)(Dimension 4)(Disk 2 of 2)[m 17-Bit Software]" "Amy Vs. Walker Demo (1990)(Schwartz, Eric W.)[m 17-Bit Software][WB]" Code: Group: "2703 Group" Sets: Pac-Mania (1988)(Grandslam)[cr 2703 Group - Wild Riders] (dat: Commodore Amiga - Games - [ADF]) Code: Group: "79th Trac" Sets: "Montage 24 AGA (199x)(InnoVision Technology)(Disk 1 of 6)[h 79th Trac][HD]" to Disk 6. (dat: Commodore Amiga - Applications - [ADF]) Notes: I've never seen this one, you? I suspect it is not a group, probably it was meant to be some descriptor of the hack? Code: Group: "976 Evil" Sets: PhotoWorkX v1.71 (1994)(Corporate Media)[cr TRD - 976 Evil] Notes: Probably just a guy/scener and not a group?

22 November 2010, 20:16	#5
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 57 Posts: 4,110	A.A.C. (Doesn't appear to be an abbreviation) ABC-Killers Ability Abnormalia Absence Abel AVS (Anything with this presumably belongs to Alex Van Starrex who is neither a group nor a scener) Most IMAGES REMOVED as added to database Attached Thumbnails Last edited by DH; 26 March 2012 at 13:52.

22 November 2010, 22:26	#6
PandMonium Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 408	Strange, i guess A.A.C must mean something, pouet also as A.A.C. About Alex Van Starrex, it's a person. Probably a developer that coded some tools, 3 sets in TOSEC: Code: Commodore Amiga - Demos - Music: Med-Tunes (1991-11)(Alex Van Starrex) Octastuff (19xx)(Alex Van Starrex) Commodore Amiga - Demos - Various - [ADF]: Octarock-3D (1991-10)(Alex Van Starrex)[WB] These should be fixed since we use (surname, names) for persons :P

22 November 2010, 23:11	#7
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 57 Posts: 4,110	Absurd Abstract Abusive Accept Accooon Acidforce (could also be Acid Force) Acheron Academy IMAGES REMOVED as added to database Last edited by DH; 26 March 2012 at 13:54.

23 November 2010, 01:46	#8
PandMonium Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 408	Thanks! Pouet agrees with you on Acid Force edit: starting also with a number, i remembered the group "2000 A.D.". I think it is known but what i can't get is a proof or hint about their abbreviation. We have like 36 references for "2KAD" in amiga sets. Is it a valid abbreviation? Any idea? Last edited by PandMonium; 23 November 2010 at 01:59.

21 November 2010, 19:43	#1
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 57 Posts: 4,110	REQ: Scene group names proof As I have many group names unproven in my spreadsheet, I decided to create this thread to help in an ongoing quest that'll help the guys in TOSEC. EDIT: Anything that can be proven with an abbreviation can you please post the results in this thread instead, thanks http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=20793 I'll Start with the groups that start with numbers as there is only a few of them 500 Things (not 100% sure about this one) 4-Ward 5th Dynasty 666 Inc Oh, and could a GM add 'REQ:' to the beginning of the thread title, somehow I forgot :s Edit: The group names I couldn't find anything about are :- 100% 10-Points 17 Bit Software (presumably 17Bit, but I cannot rule out if they were a different group or not) 2 Static 4-Track Magic 9 Design So if anybody can help to prove these groups would be really appreciated Most IMAGES REMOVED as added to database Attached Thumbnails Last edited by DH; 26 March 2012 at 13:50.

21 November 2010, 20:26	#2
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,016	17 Bit Software were not a group, they were a PD company setup by Martyn Brown who went on to help found Team 17 (hence the 17 in the name!).

22 November 2010, 13:54	#4
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 57 Posts: 4,110	2703 group is a C64 scene group http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=22730 Possibly moving into the realms of the Amiga, but I can't find any productions regarding the Amiga yet. You probably already know that of course

23 November 2010, 13:49	#9
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 57 Posts: 4,110	Just for you PandMonium http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=717543#post717543 That'll make your day EDIT: ACME vs ACME Factories http://kestra.exotica.org.uk/demo.php?id=28409 ACME http://kestra.exotica.org.uk/demo.php?id=484 ACME Factories Both groups appear to have the same members in these two productions. So are ACME & ACME Factories the same group, obviously ACME Factories being their full name? EDIT2: Acon Acrid Act Active Line (4th - 6th Image) Acume Adict IMAGES REMOVED as added to database Last edited by DH; 26 March 2012 at 13:57.

23 November 2010, 20:01	#10
PandMonium Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 408	Well, i don't know. They could be the same but exotica may have some errors too. There seems to have been various groups named Acme: http://kestra.exotica.org.uk/demos.p...oup&query=Acme That single swedish "Acme" entry could be from "Acme Factories" since they share one of the members. Thanks for the others too.

23 November 2010, 21:36	#11
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 57 Posts: 4,110	Addict (Not the same as Adict) Admirals (Abbreviation hint ADM but requires proof) Adroit Advance Aero Agency Agents Aggressors IMAGES REMOVED as added to database Last edited by DH; 26 March 2012 at 13:59.

24 November 2010, 16:25	#12
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 57 Posts: 4,110	Acme Factories Agile (No proof for the Abb yet) Agoa Agony Airwalk Alarm Alchemy Acid Support Group IMAGES REMOVED as added to database Last edited by DH; 26 March 2012 at 14:01.

24 November 2010, 17:19	#13
PandMonium Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 408	Thanks. 2 questions: Alarm or Alarm-UK (i guess the 1st); Acid/ACID or "Acid Support Group"? (I went for the 2nd on this one, although there are 2 sets from a group named ACID)

24 November 2010, 19:55	#14
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 57 Posts: 4,110	I'm fine with whatever you think PandMonium Aldi (Shopping trolleys at the ready ) Alfa Crew Alien Force Aliens Alive Alien Adenoids Alienation Alliance IMAGES REMOVED as added to database Last edited by DH; 26 March 2012 at 14:04.

24 November 2010, 22:05	#15
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 57 Posts: 4,110	Amiga Army Alphawave Association Alpha Altair Altered Brains Amaze Ambrosia (Abbreviation hint A!A but requires proof) Amega Industries EDIT: Admirals in post #11 are also supposed to use the abbreviation ADM but I can't find proof yet IMAGES REMOVED as added to database Last edited by DH; 26 March 2012 at 14:05.

24 November 2010, 22:56	#16
PandMonium Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 408	For "Amaze" i see sets using both "Amaze" and "Amaze!" in TOSEC in various dats like: Commodore Amiga - Demos - Music Commodore Amiga - Demos - Packs Commodore Amiga - Demos - Various - [ADF] This needs to be fixed if they are the same group :P

25 November 2010, 12:47	#17
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 57 Posts: 4,110	Spiritual Connection (19xx)(Amaze!)[m Warlocks].adf Just checked this one and the Demo screen only states 'Amaze' and not 'Amaze!' So it looks like the '!' has filtered in from somewhere. So this one should really read 'Spiritual Connection (19xx)(Amaze)[m Warlocks].adf' I also checked this one too 'Electrical Ecstasy (19xx)(Amaze!)[m Warlocks].adf' and although the first page states 'Amaze!' a few screens down the line, when the demo really starts, it only States 'Amaze' without the '!' And again, this one should read 'Electrical Ecstasy (19xx)(Amaze)[m Warlocks].adf' Hopefully that'll be enough proof to remove and rename the sets although I think someone should check some of the stuff in :- Commodore Amiga - Demos - Music Commodore Amiga - Demos - Packs Just to be on the safe side EDIT: Amigans Amiga Circle Amiga Lords Amiga Lovers Amiga Syndrome Aminox Amitech (from Switzerland) Amnesia IMAGES REMOVED as added to database Last edited by DH; 26 March 2012 at 14:07.

30 November 2010, 14:11	#18
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 57 Posts: 4,110	Amnesia Amonia Anal Intruders (Abbreviation hint = AI) Analog (Abbreviation hint = ALG) Analogy Anathema Andromeda (Abbreviation hint AOA) Anchovy Sisters IMAGES REMOVED as added to database Last edited by DH; 26 March 2012 at 14:09.

30 November 2010, 20:02	#19
PandMonium Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 408	done! thanks

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