Vampire II for the Amiga 600 FAQ's - Page 21

KONEY · 23 September 2016, 00:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

What IS at risk is kipper's other creations, which he put aside

Yes, this is what I meant to say too

Retrofan · 28 September 2016, 21:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retrofan

I've just seen these news from today http://www.kipper2k.com/updates.html

The huge increase in the price of the Vampire 600

Well, I can understand their reasons.

Well, some days have passed. Now I believe we've had the time to think about it. I just want to comment the facts:

- This is the most desired Amiga board ever.
- Price Vs Product has the best rate ever yet.
- Two guys that are working on developement can't be soldering 50 boards a day.
- People like to earn -a lot of- money easily with some others work.

So appart of forgetting of soldering they should sell like someone commented at least 1 of every 10 boards on Ebay, just to avoid suckers there.

Just my opinion.

dirkies · 28 September 2016, 21:58

They should outsource it to China in large volumes and make a lot of dosh with the new pricing. A bit like the 1541ultimate creator does. Well deserved and a win-win for all of us.

copse · 28 September 2016, 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirkies

They should outsource it to China in large volumes and make a lot of dosh with the new pricing. A bit like the 1541ultimate creator does. Well deserved and a win-win for all of us.

Yes, and if the new pricing not only compensates them well, but also supports further development which might not otherwise be possible.. then a win-win-win

seb132 · 29 September 2016, 14:08

@dirkies and copse: for that they need cash to pay upfront. That's why they decided to go for batches of 100 cards only, after carefully confirming all orders with their customers.
Lack of cash make your idea impossible to happen...
Unless if someone is volunteering to supply fresh and enough $$$ for that?
I'm open to support...

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dirkies · 29 September 2016, 15:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by seb132

@dirkies and copse: for that they need cash to pay upfront. That's why they decided to go for batches of 100 cards only, after carefully confirming all orders with their customers.
Lack of cash make your idea impossible to happen...
Unless if someone is volunteering to supply fresh and enough $$$ for that?
I'm open to support...

that's called an investor, he provides the cash to pay upfront large quantities, but in return gets his money back plus a cut in the profits. It would be a good candidate for investment for a venture capital firm, provided they professionalize a bit their organization (create a company entity etc), but I assume they never went down this idea road.

sean_sk · 10 October 2016, 14:29

I haven't had a chance to read all the posts here but would like to say that I hope kipper2k doesn't walk away from the project. I feel sad that there are people out there that can be so low and rotten so as to make a person feel so stressed and miserable that they no longer want to be a part of such a fantastic project. I suffer from severe anxiety myself, and know what this is like.

A previous poster mentioned that it would be cool if there was an option for a DIY kit version of the Vampire 2. This would be awesome. I love assembling and soldering my own electronic kits and this would be fun, plus it could be offered at a reduced price for those wanting to save some money. The only issue I could foresee with something like this is if someone not familiar with assembling electronics ends up stuffing something up and then cries for help from the Vampire 2 guys for support.

I would love this to be a serious consideration. I'd get the best of both worlds, I'd get to enjoy putting something together myself and then enjoy the results.

demolition · 10 October 2016, 14:37

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Originally Posted by sean_skroht

A previous poster mentioned that it would be cool if there was an option for a DIY kit version of the Vampire 2. This would be awesome. I love assembling and soldering my own electronic kits and this would be fun, plus it could be offered at a reduced price for those wanting to save some money. The only issue I could foresee with something like this is if someone not familiar with assembling electronics ends up stuffing something up and then cries for help from the Vampire 2 guys for support.

If they did a DIY kit, they would be shooting themselves in the foot as the FPGA is near impossible to solder for amateurs. It would become a support nightmare as they would spend more time helping people getting their boards to work than if they had just assembled it all to begin with.

KONEY · 10 October 2016, 15:27

I just flashed my vampire 2 with the new core, shouldn't I have a FPU now? setpatch is up-to-date and 68040.library along with usual new, old, dummy files are in libs: This is what I get, is it normal?

demolition · 10 October 2016, 15:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by KONEY

I just flashed my vampire 2 with the new core, shouldn't I have a FPU now? setpatch is up-to-date and 68040.library along with usual new, old, dummy files are in libs: This is what I get, is it normal?

There is no FPU yet. It is partially implemented (as far as I understand), but disabled until complete. It may take a while until it will be available. Also, you don't need 68040.library. Actually, it may even cause trouble.

'Gold' core means that integer functions have been tested enough to be considered stable.

KONEY · 10 October 2016, 15:41

I see, thanks. Then no netsurf yet, as it wants a FPU, right?

demolition · 10 October 2016, 15:44

There is a no-FPU build of Netsurf:
https://ami-soft.blogspot.dk/

I haven't tried it, but it is supposedly quite slow.

KONEY · 28 October 2016, 12:21

That was helpful, thanks. It turned out that netsurf runs only on RTG or AGA display but I only have ECS, so no web for me

Nickman1200 · 28 October 2016, 16:22

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Originally Posted by KONEY

That was helpful, thanks. It turned out that netsurf runs only on RTG or AGA display but I only have ECS, so no web for me

But Vampire have RTG. Just install driver and connect HDMI cable.

Retrofan · 28 October 2016, 20:49

Hi:
I would like to have a post from Kipper if possible to know how things are going on.

KONEY · 28 October 2016, 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickman1200

But Vampire have RTG. Just install driver and connect HDMI cable.

SAGA and Picasso are installed but I'm not interested in LCDs

wXR · 29 October 2016, 02:27

I would also like a post from Kipper, as he never answers any email. At the moment I have no idea if he is still in business and/or still building these cards. I also don't know what the actual price is now.

Retrofan · 29 October 2016, 03:01

I only hope that he can feel that we will always keep thanking him and Majsta for what they are doing and maybe he can still have an internal motivation to keep working on this incredible project that has a lot to offer yet for Amigans like you and me.

An observation: You can see there are two more new hardware projects on development now. They are mostly receiving but strong language. At least that kind of posts has passed away in this development.

eXeler0 · 29 October 2016, 08:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by wXR

I would also like a post from Kipper, as he never answers any email. At the moment I have no idea if he is still in business and/or still building these cards. I also don't know what the actual price is now.

+RetroFan
There was a fairly recent post from Kipper in this thread
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=84436
Check post #36

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wXR · 29 October 2016, 09:10

Thanks for that eXeler0 but it doesn't really answer the question I have, which perhaps has been answered elsewhere: Is Kipper still selling Vampires directly? What is the new cost? And is the process still, put money into his PayPal without any other order confirmation process?

10 October 2016, 15:27	#409
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 670	I just flashed my vampire 2 with the new core, shouldn't I have a FPU now? setpatch is up-to-date and 68040.library along with usual new, old, dummy files are in libs: This is what I get, is it normal? Attached Thumbnails

29 October 2016, 03:01	#418
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,195	I only hope that he can feel that we will always keep thanking him and Majsta for what they are doing and maybe he can still have an internal motivation to keep working on this incredible project that has a lot to offer yet for Amigans like you and me. An observation: You can see there are two more new hardware projects on development now. They are mostly receiving but strong language. At least that kind of posts has passed away in this development. Last edited by Retrofan; 29 October 2016 at 03:06.

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28 September 2016, 21:58	#403
dirkies Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Belgium Age: 51 Posts: 1,297	They should outsource it to China in large volumes and make a lot of dosh with the new pricing. A bit like the 1541ultimate creator does. Well deserved and a win-win for all of us.

29 September 2016, 14:08	#405
seb132 French in Australia Join Date: May 2012 Location: Gold Coast Age: 52 Posts: 507	@dirkies and copse: for that they need cash to pay upfront. That's why they decided to go for batches of 100 cards only, after carefully confirming all orders with their customers. Lack of cash make your idea impossible to happen... Unless if someone is volunteering to supply fresh and enough $$$ for that? I'm open to support... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10 October 2016, 14:29	#407
sean_sk Gimmemore Commodore Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Australia Posts: 339	I haven't had a chance to read all the posts here but would like to say that I hope kipper2k doesn't walk away from the project. I feel sad that there are people out there that can be so low and rotten so as to make a person feel so stressed and miserable that they no longer want to be a part of such a fantastic project. I suffer from severe anxiety myself, and know what this is like. A previous poster mentioned that it would be cool if there was an option for a DIY kit version of the Vampire 2. This would be awesome. I love assembling and soldering my own electronic kits and this would be fun, plus it could be offered at a reduced price for those wanting to save some money. The only issue I could foresee with something like this is if someone not familiar with assembling electronics ends up stuffing something up and then cries for help from the Vampire 2 guys for support. I would love this to be a serious consideration. I'd get the best of both worlds, I'd get to enjoy putting something together myself and then enjoy the results.

10 October 2016, 15:41	#411
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 670	I see, thanks. Then no netsurf yet, as it wants a FPU, right?

10 October 2016, 15:44	#412
demolition Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Copenhagen / DK Age: 44 Posts: 4,190	There is a no-FPU build of Netsurf: https://ami-soft.blogspot.dk/ I haven't tried it, but it is supposedly quite slow.

28 October 2016, 12:21	#413
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 670	That was helpful, thanks. It turned out that netsurf runs only on RTG or AGA display but I only have ECS, so no web for me

28 October 2016, 20:49	#415
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,195	Hi: I would like to have a post from Kipper if possible to know how things are going on.

29 October 2016, 02:27	#417
wXR Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New York Posts: 552	I would also like a post from Kipper, as he never answers any email. At the moment I have no idea if he is still in business and/or still building these cards. I also don't know what the actual price is now.

29 October 2016, 09:10	#420
wXR Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New York Posts: 552	Thanks for that eXeler0 but it doesn't really answer the question I have, which perhaps has been answered elsewhere: Is Kipper still selling Vampires directly? What is the new cost? And is the process still, put money into his PayPal without any other order confirmation process?

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