Problematic Demos. - Page 11

Toni Wilen · 17 October 2013, 17:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

Blue Lagoon (Demo) by Wizzcat & Belga-live

Another case that behaves similar to Forensic Clinicism (40k Intro) by TRSI ...?!

If the disk inserted after the emu is started, it will work with glitches ... but if the now is done reset or the disk is already present before the emu started, it will work fine ?!

A500 confirmed and this is "most common" side-effect on buggy demos (memory not initialized, whatever), garbage visible somewhere. This is not random. Probably depends on config or how demo was run.

Forensic Clinicism is more random.

amilo3438 · 18 October 2013, 12:38

We shave Ass (Demo) by Razor 1911

A500 OCS/ECS ... some glitch on scrolling credits part!

p.s. Probably not the emu problem, but w/o real A500 testing hard to be sure.

Mr. Peq's Amiga First (Demo) by Dual Crew

Does such gap exist on a real A500 (OCS?!)? ... (see on pic.4)

EDIT: It seems in WinUAE to happens only on OCS, on ECS looks fine. (a little wired as demo is said to be Released: 1989-01)

Toni Wilen · 18 October 2013, 17:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

We shave Ass (Demo) by Razor 1911

Broken change in test version, also broke other similar scrollers. Fixed now.

Quote:

Mr. Peq's Amiga First (Demo) by Dual Crew

Gap isn't there, OCS or ECS. Some tweaks done but not guaranteed to be correct, this is quite rare situation (vertical diwstrt equals vertical diwstop and ddfstrt about to match)

amilo3438 · 18 October 2013, 17:49

JFI ... Megademo by Northstar

A500 KS1.2 OCS/0.5mb ... another case where PC Task-manager (not WinUAE) shows CPU usage over 80% on my PC laptop (see on pic.1)?!

Usually it rarely exceeds over 50% with my WinUAE settings. Even when running Jim Power Title screen it rarely goes over 80%.

Just wondering what could cause such higher usage as the demo doesnt look to be demand.

p.s. It reminds on previously mentioned similar case ... Cylindric Scroll by Concept , though this maybe looks to be more demanding.

EDIT: JFI ... another simple case Filled Vectors (Intro) by Lsd that use lot of CPU power! (see on pic.2)?!

EDIT2: JFI ... also simple scroller on this one Demo 3 (Demo) by Tristar has very high CPU usage (see on pic.3)?!

Toni Wilen · 18 October 2013, 20:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

JFI...
Megademo by Northstar

A500 KS1.2 OCS/0.5mb ... another case where PC Task-manager (not WinUAE) shows CPU usage over 80% on my PC laptop (see on pic.)?!

Usually it rarely exceeds over 50% with my WinUAE settings. Even when running Jim Power Title screen it rarely goes over 80%.

Just wondering what could cause such higher usage as the demo doesnt look to be demand.

p.s. It reminds on previously mentioned similar case ... Cylindric Scroll by Concept , though this maybe looks to be more demanding.

Sorry, I am not interested if few programs use more CPU power. Maybe when there is nothing else left to do

amilo3438 · 18 October 2013, 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Sorry, I am not interested if few programs use more CPU power. Maybe when there is nothing else left to do

No prob., as I already mention its "Just For Info" ... anyway "maybe" as answer also doesnt sound too bad, as some hope still exist.

amilo3438 · 19 October 2013, 16:39

Now Thats What I Call Crap (Demo) by Lsd

Just another demo with "scrolling text" issue!

amilo3438 · 19 October 2013, 17:02

Pleasure Trip (Demo) by Lsd

A500 OCS/ECS 0.5mb+0.5mb ... Text looks very wired, what happened here?!

Note: It happens also on the demo starting, but the pic. below is only taken later in demo after LMB!

Toni Wilen · 19 October 2013, 17:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

Pleasure Trip (Demo) by Lsd

A500 OCS/ECS 0.5mb+0.5mb ... Text looks very wired, what happened here?!

Note: It happens also on the demo starting, but the pic. below is only taken later in demo after LMB!

80 character mode required. CLI text looks weird = 99.99% 80 character mode required. (for example copy devs:system-configuration from WB disk)

amilo3438 · 19 October 2013, 17:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

80 character mode required. CLI text looks weird = 99.99% 80 character mode required. (for example copy devs:system-configuration from WB disk)

Correct, tested it now from WB and looks fine ... see on pic. below:

amilo3438 · 19 October 2013, 17:53

Funky Big-Mac (Intro) by Lsd

A500 OCS/ECS ... Does the color dots also appears on a real A500?!

(Maybe its false alarm, but cant say w/o testing on real A500.)

amilo3438 · 19 October 2013, 20:35

Delirka (Demo) by Appendix

A little wired situation here ... on the link is not mentioned that is for "aga", in demo itself (see on pic. below) it said "NO AGA demo", but still cant run it on anything then A1200 AGA?!

So, does it work on a real "No AGA Amiga" at all?

Toni Wilen · 19 October 2013, 21:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

Delirka (Demo) by Appendix

A little wired situation here ... on the link is not mentioned that is for "aga", in demo itself (see on pic. below) it said "NO AGA demo", but still cant run it on anything then A1200 AGA?!

So, does it work on a real "No AGA Amiga" at all?

It uses 8 bitplanes and FMODE (AGA-only custom register) has non-zero value in copper list: it is AGA demo.

Perhaps some parts are non-AGA and available separately?

amilo3438 · 19 October 2013, 21:22

Intel Inside (Intro) by Appendix

A500 OCS/ECS ... After first logo screen got "something" wired?! (see on pic. below)
Does it happens on a real A500 too?!

EDIT: Interesting, if the disk file is inserted after WB hand is shown then pic.2 happens?!

amilo3438 · 19 October 2013, 23:51

Boot Intro by Tristar

A500 OCS/ECS ... some lines travel from left to right side?! (see on pic. below) Does it happens on a real A500?

Toni Wilen · 20 October 2013, 14:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

Funky Big-Mac (Intro) by Lsd

A500 OCS/ECS ... Does the color dots also appears on a real A500?!

No. Need to examine this more..

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

Intel Inside (Intro) by Appendix

A500 OCS/ECS ... After first logo screen got "something" wired?! (see on pic. below)
Does it happens on a real A500 too?!

Yes.

EDIT: Interesting, if the disk file is inserted after WB hand is shown then pic.2 happens?!

That error means not enough memory.

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

Boot Intro by Tristar

A500 OCS/ECS ... some lines travel from left to right side?! (see on pic. below) Does it happens on a real A500?

Yes.

heavy · 20 October 2013, 15:42

about "Shed Tears"/Ozone. a slideshow in interlaced mode with scrolltext on pictures :
http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=5351

screenshot in 2007 :

since "remove interlace artifacts", the scroll is half good if enabled and not so good if disabled (issue depend of the demo and way used to display interlaced...)

amilo3438 · 20 October 2013, 17:14

First Demo by Amiga Industries

A500 OCS 0.5mb ... If the disk file is inserted after WB hand (see pic.1), but its Ok if then reset or the disk file was already inserted (see pic.2)?!

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EDIT: @heavy ... Welcome on the topic!

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EDIT2: BBS Intro by Spreadpoint & Amiga Industries ... cant make it to run!
(a little wired as the same file CRC exist also on the link, what could mean it was probably run fine on some older WinUAE versions)
Also this one Noiseplay v1.0 Intro (Intro) by Spreadpoint & Amiga Industries looks similar and it also works fine (but have different CRC and size)?!

EDIT3: First Release in 1987 (Intro) by Amiga Industries & Kingsoft ... see on pic.3!

StingRay · 20 October 2013, 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

EDIT2: BBS Intro by Spreadpoint & Amiga Industries ... cant make it to run!
(a little wired as the same file CRC exist also on the link, what could mean it was probably run fine on some older WinUAE versions)

It has been crunched with Imploder's library mode and will not run without explode.library! It's "weird" btw, wired is something completely different!

amilo3438 · 20 October 2013, 21:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

It has been crunched with Imploder's library mode and will not run without explode.library! It's "weird" btw, wired is something completely different!

Thanks for checking the demo. Also regarding "wired-weird"

, yea, its always been easier notice others' errors than own.

18 October 2013, 12:38	#202
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,511	We shave Ass (Demo) by Razor 1911 A500 OCS/ECS ... some glitch on scrolling credits part! p.s. Probably not the emu problem, but w/o real A500 testing hard to be sure. Mr. Peq's Amiga First (Demo) by Dual Crew Does such gap exist on a real A500 (OCS?!)? ... (see on pic.4) EDIT: It seems in WinUAE to happens only on OCS, on ECS looks fine. (a little wired as demo is said to be Released: 1989-01) Attached Thumbnails Last edited by amilo3438; 18 October 2013 at 14:06.

18 October 2013, 17:49	#204
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,511	JFI ... Megademo by Northstar A500 KS1.2 OCS/0.5mb ... another case where PC Task-manager (not WinUAE) shows CPU usage over 80% on my PC laptop (see on pic.1)?! Usually it rarely exceeds over 50% with my WinUAE settings. Even when running Jim Power Title screen it rarely goes over 80%. Just wondering what could cause such higher usage as the demo doesnt look to be demand. p.s. It reminds on previously mentioned similar case ... Cylindric Scroll by Concept , though this maybe looks to be more demanding. EDIT: JFI ... another simple case Filled Vectors (Intro) by Lsd that use lot of CPU power! (see on pic.2)?! EDIT2: JFI ... also simple scroller on this one Demo 3 (Demo) by Tristar has very high CPU usage (see on pic.3)?! Attached Thumbnails Last edited by amilo3438; 19 October 2013 at 23:30.

19 October 2013, 16:39	#207
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,511	Now Thats What I Call Crap (Demo) by Lsd Just another demo with "scrolling text" issue! Attached Thumbnails

19 October 2013, 17:02	#208
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,511	Pleasure Trip (Demo) by Lsd A500 OCS/ECS 0.5mb+0.5mb ... Text looks very wired, what happened here?! Note: It happens also on the demo starting, but the pic. below is only taken later in demo after LMB! Attached Thumbnails

19 October 2013, 17:53	#211
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,511	Funky Big-Mac (Intro) by Lsd A500 OCS/ECS ... Does the color dots also appears on a real A500?! (Maybe its false alarm, but cant say w/o testing on real A500.) Attached Thumbnails

19 October 2013, 20:35	#212
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,511	Delirka (Demo) by Appendix A little wired situation here ... on the link is not mentioned that is for "aga", in demo itself (see on pic. below) it said "NO AGA demo", but still cant run it on anything then A1200 AGA?! So, does it work on a real "No AGA Amiga" at all? Attached Thumbnails

19 October 2013, 21:22	#214
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,511	Intel Inside (Intro) by Appendix A500 OCS/ECS ... After first logo screen got "something" wired?! (see on pic. below) Does it happens on a real A500 too?! EDIT: Interesting, if the disk file is inserted after WB hand is shown then pic.2 happens?! Attached Thumbnails Last edited by amilo3438; 19 October 2013 at 21:38.

19 October 2013, 23:51	#215
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,511	Boot Intro by Tristar A500 OCS/ECS ... some lines travel from left to right side?! (see on pic. below) Does it happens on a real A500? Attached Thumbnails

20 October 2013, 15:42	#217
heavy noodle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: europe Posts: 247	about "Shed Tears"/Ozone. a slideshow in interlaced mode with scrolltext on pictures : http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=5351 screenshot in 2007 : since "remove interlace artifacts", the scroll is half good if enabled and not so good if disabled (issue depend of the demo and way used to display interlaced...) Attached Thumbnails

20 October 2013, 17:14	#218
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,511	First Demo by Amiga Industries A500 OCS 0.5mb ... If the disk file is inserted after WB hand (see pic.1), but its Ok if then reset or the disk file was already inserted (see pic.2)?! ------------------------------------------- EDIT: @heavy ... Welcome on the topic! ------------------------------------------- EDIT2: BBS Intro by Spreadpoint & Amiga Industries ... cant make it to run! (a little wired as the same file CRC exist also on the link, what could mean it was probably run fine on some older WinUAE versions) Also this one Noiseplay v1.0 Intro (Intro) by Spreadpoint & Amiga Industries looks similar and it also works fine (but have different CRC and size)?! EDIT3: First Release in 1987 (Intro) by Amiga Industries & Kingsoft ... see on pic.3! Attached Thumbnails Last edited by amilo3438; 20 October 2013 at 18:56.

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