Instaling SCSI.DEVICE in CWB 3.9

[paulo_becas]

I don't know if this is the right place to start this thread or if it was already answered, i searched EAB and didn't find any andswer to this question.

How do i install scsi.device 43.45 in classic Workbench 3.9?

I thought i'd just have to copy it to S drawer but when i did nothing happens.

For most of you guys this is a dumb question but i'm loosing my mind here.

Help please!!!!

[fitzsteve]

It's already installed as it's part of BB2 update which is required for Classic Workbench 3.9 (must be installed over OS3.9 & BB2)

[paulo_becas]

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

It's already installed as it's part of BB2 update which is required for Classic Workbench 3.9 (must be installed over OS3.9 & BB2)

The one that's installed is version 43.43 and i want version 43.45 that's in the my files drawer under large hd.

The thing is that my CWB 3.9 wasn't booting on my 1200 and i already made it boot by renaming the file "Amiga Rom Update”… under devs.

With a help of a friend he said that probably there was some kind of incompatibility with my hardware.

I have a 1200 with a 8gb cf card and the ACA1232 on it.
The board is a REV.2B

[FOL]

Originally Posted by paulo_becas

The one that's installed is version 43.43 and i want version 43.45 that's in the my files drawer under large hd.

The thing is that my CWB 3.9 wasn't booting on my 1200 and i already made it boot by renaming the file "Amiga Rom Update”… under devs.

With a help of a friend he said that probably there was some kind of incompatibility with my hardware.

I have a 1200 with a 8gb cf card and the ACA1232 on it.
The board is a REV.2B

Never seen an A1200 not load with ROM UPDATE, A4000 maybe but not A1200.

[paulo_becas]

Originally Posted by FOL

Never seen an A1200 not load with ROM UPDATE, A4000 maybe but not A1200.

Mine wasn't loading.

It started to load as soon as i renamed that file.

Remember that i'm using Classic WB 3.9, if i use a plain install of Amiga OS3.9 i have no problem what so ever

[fitzsteve]

Yes some CF card are not compatible with scsi device of BB2 update, I have seen it here.

Apologies I thought it was 45.45 but on checking you are indeed correct it is 43.43

So my advice is to change your startup sequence to use the setpatch command:

C:Setpatch SKIPROMUPDATES "scsi.device" QUIET

You will need to comment out the other lines you don't need.

And before that in the startup sequence (near the top) use loadmodule to load up the device you like.

Download loadmodule:

http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/LoadModule

Extract and Put 'loadmodule' file in to C:

Put the scsi.deivce where you want it, for the purpose of this guide, I would put in Sys/Devs

Then use the command:

C:LoadModule Devs:scsi.device

And voila

ps. if you have a card like Blizzard/Apollo/ACA you can build your own OS3.9 Rom with the updated scsi device module and use Blizkick/RemApollo/ACAtune to load it up and disable the Rom update on OS3.9 all together

[paulo_becas]

Fitzsteve rules...

You are the man

I've been searching for that kind of info for ages and here you are, so simple in your words that even a 3 year old kid would understand.

Thank's a lot

By the way, i love your tutorials, already subscribed your channel

[fitzsteve]

Hi paulo_becas,

I'm really pleased to help, keep enjoying your Amiga

ps, thanks for the sub

[voyager]

I think I have more or less the same problem.

Started playing with OS 3.9 for the first time, but I can not get partitions >4 gig to work. In HDtoolbox I can see them but they show op as unreadable.
I am also stuck on the 43.43 scsi.device, using classic workbench. Put the updated scsi.device in devs like I always do in 3.1 but noway after reboot still 43.43..

Has this something to do with the maprom function of the aca card? Because I use 3.0 rom's I load the 3.1 roms it then reboots but then os 3.9 does it's own reboot after that and loads a 3.9 rom? Sorry it's a bit unfamiliar this os 3.9 thingy.

Anyway , what's the maximum HDD size of the 43.43 scsi device?
BTW using a 80 gig IDE drive and a aca@56

[fitzsteve]

Classic Workbench 3.9 does not have the same code to implement the scsi.device via the Devs drawer as the 3.1 packs do, you have to use 'load module' or some other way to load the module.

In your situation I suggest disable completely the OS3.9 Rom update and use the ACA's Maprom to load in a custom 3.9 Rom including the updated scsi.device

There is a really good guide from mfilos on how to create your own Rom images:

http://www.mfilos.com/p/guides.html

Use the setpatch command:

C:SetPatch NOROMUPDATE QUIET

At the very start of your Startup Sequnce you can edit your ACATune declaration to load your Custom Rom and voila! No more OS3.9 reboot and everything should work as expected.

Lastly, just make sure the scsi device and file system you use are compatible, you can check the FAQ here:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=61666

[voyager]

I first have to finish the tower conversion before I start on the 3.9 rom adventure (no keyboard yet on that system) . Anyway I added the load module and loaded the patched scsi.device and it worked in UAE using IDE0 I could format all the drives, I stuffed 20 gigs of data on it to see if any unexpected things would happen but it worked. BUT not on the real 1200. 3 drives uninitialized.

So type version scsi.device, I can't no keyboard yet. Use a screen keyboard, I did, did not work.

So this is my startup-sequence. Why does it work under emulation and not in real deal?

;ClassicWB Startup-Sequence
;--------------------------
;OS39
c:acatune -maprom c:kick.rom -fastchip on -cache on -burst on -vbrmove >nil:
c:loadmodule devs:scsi.device


;Start OS3.9 Checks
IF EXISTS C:SquirrelSCSI
C:SquirrelSCSI
EndIF
Set SCSIUpdate 1
IF EXISTS C:IDEFix
C:IDEFix
Set SCSIUpdate 0
EndIF
IF EXISTS SYS:Expansion/XSurfIDE
Set SCSIUpdate 0
EndIF
IF EXISTS SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/NOSCSIUPDATE
Set SCSIUpdate 0
EndIf
IF $SCSIUpdate EQ 1
C:SetPatch QUIET
ELSE
C:SetPatch SKIPROMUPDATES "scsi.device" QUIET
EndIF
Unset SCSIUpdate
;End OS3.9 Checks

C:GetMouseInput LOCAL

IF $MouseInput EQ 1
Unset MouseInput
C:Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:
C:Assign >NIL: T: RAM:
C:Execute S:Maxmem-Sequence
EndCLI >NIL:
EndIF

IF $MouseInput EQ 2
Unset MouseInput
C:Execute S:Bootmenu-Sequence
EndCLI >NIL:
EndIF

Unset MouseInput

IF EXISTS C:StackAttack
C:StackAttack
EndIF

C:Version >NIL:
FailAt 21

IF EXISTS SYS:WBstartupD
C:Rename >NIL: SYS:WBStartup SYS:WBStartupM
C:Rename >NIL: SYS:WBStartupD SYS:WBStartup
EndIF

Resident >NIL: C:IconX PURE
Resident >NIL: C:WBRun PURE
Resident >NIL: C:Assign PURE
Resident >NIL: C:Execute PURE
Resident >NIL: C:SetEnv PURE REPLACE

IF EXISTS L:env-handler
C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards
L:env-handler
ELSE
C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards RAM:ENV RAM:ENV/Sys
C:Copy >NIL: ENVARC: RAM:ENV ALL NOREQ
Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV
EndIF

IF EXISTS C:PatchRAM
C:PatchRAM
EndIF

IF EXISTS C:TagLiFE
C:TagLiFE
EndIF

Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T
Assign >NIL: CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards
Assign >NIL: REXX: S:
Assign >NIL: PRINTERS: DEVS:Printers
Assign >NIL: KEYMAPS: DEVS:Keymaps
Assign >NIL: LOCALE: SYS:Locale
Assign >NIL: LIBS: SYS:Classes ADD
Assign >NIL: HELP: LOCALE:Help DEFER

IF EXISTS C:BlazeWCP
C:BlazeWCP
EndIF

IF EXISTS SYS:System/FBlit/FBlit
SYS:System/FBlit/FBlit
SYS:System/FBlit/FText
EndIF

BindDrivers
C:Mount >NIL: DEVSOSDrivers/~(#?.info)

C:LoadMonDrvs

SetEnv Language "english"
SetEnv Workbench $Workbench
SetEnv Kickstart $Kickstart
UnSet Workbench
UnSet Kickstart

IF EXISTS C:CyberBugFix
C:CyberBugFix
EndIF

IF EXISTS C:IconBeFast
C:IconBeFast 0
EndIF

C:AddDataTypes REFRESH QUIET
IF EXISTS SYS:System/VPrefs/VisualPrefs
Run > NIL: SYS:System/VPrefs/VisualPrefs
EndIF
C:IPrefs
SYS:System/FPalette/FPPrefs
C:ConClip

Path >NIL: RAM: C: SYS:Utilities SYS:Rexxc SYS:System S: SYS:Prefs SYS:WBStartup SYS:Tools SYS:Tools/Commodities

SYS:System/REXXMast >NIL:

IF EXISTS S:User-Startup
Execute S:User-Startup
EndIF

Resident Execute REMOVE
Resident Assign REMOVE

IF EXISTS C:StackAttack
C:StackAttack AUTO
EndIF

C:LoadWB

EndCLI >NIL:

[fitzsteve]

Just in case something here is causing an issue comment out everything except the skipromupdates line:

;Start OS3.9 Checks
;IF EXISTS C:SquirrelSCSI
;C:SquirrelSCSI
;EndIF
;Set SCSIUpdate 1
;IF EXISTS C:IDEFix
;C:IDEFix
;Set SCSIUpdate 0
;EndIF
;IF EXISTS SYS:Expansion/XSurfIDE
;Set SCSIUpdate 0
;EndIF
;IF EXISTS SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/NOSCSIUPDATE
;Set SCSIUpdate 0
;EndIf
;IF $SCSIUpdate EQ 1
;C:SetPatch QUIET
;ELSE
C:SetPatch SKIPROMUPDATES "scsi.device" QUIET
;EndIF
;Unset SCSIUpdate
;End OS3.9 Checks

But maybe the ACATune Maprom is conflicting with the BB2 update, so in this case to fix the issue you probably will need to map an image of OS3.9 with BB2 updates and 45.45 scsi.device instead of Kick31.

[voyager]

Thanks Steve but no joy.

It really go's mad. The system boots you can hear the HDD read, then it reboots and I get the 3.1 screen and noting, then I reset again and again and again and sometimes it starts.
It seems I really need a 3.1 or a 3.9 rom. I will stick to WB 3.1 for now and try to make a 3.9 rom.

[voyager]

Boot problems caused by a 80 gig deskstar that seems to be incompatible with the A1200 IDE port. After the rekick by the aca the disk is to fast of to slow? to respond.