AmigaOS 3.2 and beyond

[chromium]

I know 3.2 is coming, but I recently got back into Amiga after not touching mine for a few years and wanted to get 3.1.4, so I ordered it and a set of physical ROMs for my A1200. I hope it arrives before 3.2 is out lol

I also hope there's some sort of upgrade discount so I don't have to shell out full price twice in a short time!

[mateusz_s]

Discounts? Really? Come on guys..
How much is for 3.1.4 with ROMS? Like 35€?
Is that so much?
Show some appreciation for the developers,
their work and knowledge.

[Rotzloeffel]

Originally Posted by chromium

I also hope there's some sort of upgrade discount so I don't have to shell out full price twice in a short time!

Come on, the pubs are closed

[spudje]

Originally Posted by mateusz_s

Show some appreciation for the developers,

If only they got some of the revenue...

[digiflip]

yes n no, I can use rom 3.14 or new roms or modded roms, since most of my amigas are fpga so can use rom ks files direct lol

[chromium]

Originally Posted by mateusz_s

Discounts? Really? Come on guys..
How much is for 3.1.4 with ROMS? Like 35€?
Is that so much?
Show some appreciation for the developers,
their work and knowledge.

I am, which is why I bought it a few days ago. With the postage situation the way it is 3.2 could be out before I even get 3.1.4!

Originally Posted by Rotzloeffel

Come on, the pubs are closed

Not here they're not, I'm in Australia

[mateusz_s]

Originally Posted by chromium

I am, which is why I bought it a few days ago. With the postage situation the way it is 3.2 could be out before I even get 3.1.4!

Not here they're not, I'm in Australia

Well I am not an expert but there are at least two solutions:
- first is to download Roms as files which are provided after buying - and then burn them yourself into eproms. You can buy your own empty eprons and the device to burn them or pay someone for that kind of service in your local area electric service.
- second is, if you have turbocard that can handle the rom,

[chromium]

Originally Posted by mateusz_s

Well I am not an expert but there are at least two solutions:
- first is to download Roms as files which are provided after buying - and then burn them yourself into eproms. You can buy your own empty eprons and the device to burn them or pay someone for that kind of service in your local area electric service.
- second is, if you have turbocard that can handle the rom,

I bought it from https://sordan.ie/

I do have an ACA card capable of using maprom. I have to wait for my Amiga OS 3.1.4 it to show up before I can use it as I need to register the license with Hyperion. I asked if they could email me the license and they said that they can't.

[amijim]

I am also a happy owner of Amiga os 3.1.4 and once again i would like to thank Hyperion for developing a new OS about us.Once again i have my amigas up and running and i will upgrade to 3.2 once it becomes available.It seems that hyperion is the new Amiga .

[cookieninja]

Wishes:

Optional features - Because some might hate them
1. Option to show time in the title bar on Workbench screen
2. Option to have volume control on title bar, if possible
3. Option to have "Single window navigation" of folders
4. Integration of some commodities, like click to front & mouse disappear when keyboard used.
5. Global clipboard? I know this will be messy, lots of legacy apps won't support, but for anything we can update it is very useful.
6. Command history and auto-complete for Amiga Dos window
7. Requesting permission to provide some of the 3rd party data types out of the box

Please don't mention any 3rd party tools, my feelings are all about having a nicer out of the box experience

I love Amiga, but I think it is good to consider some limited enhancements (visual and functional) to the user experience, some of the stuff we take for granted today.

Updates to standard experience
* Ability to boot from IDE CD-ROM for A1200/A600/A4000
* Ability to boot from CF Hard disk plugged into PCMCIA slot

[carls]

Originally Posted by Ami

Why no love for standard non blinking block cursor?

Seconding this.
Cursor blinking is a massive annoyance and should at the very least be opt-out.

For me, the non blinking block cursor is one of the Amiga's little gems that I constantly miss on other platforms. It also seems strange from a coherency standpoint to introduce another way of rendering cursors that clashes with most existing applications and goes against 35 years of precedence.

Originally Posted by boemann

the non blinking block cursor was a necessity on old text terminals

The VT100 and C64 (for example) had blinking block cursors. Thankfully, the AmigaOS developers decided against the blinking.


Just my $0.02

[boemann]

Originally Posted by cookieninja

Wishes:

Optional features - Because some might hate them
1. Option to show time in the title bar on Workbench screen
2. Option to have volume control on title bar, if possible
3. Option to have "Single window navigation" of folders
4. Integration of some commodities, like click to front & mouse disappear when keyboard used.
5. Global clipboard? I know this will be messy, lots of legacy apps won't support, but for anything we can update it is very useful.
6. Command history and auto-complete for Amiga Dos window
7. Requesting permission to provide some of the 3rd party data types out of the box

Please don't mention any 3rd party tools, my feelings are all about having a nicer out of the box experience

I love Amiga, but I think it is good to consider some limited enhancements (visual and functional) to the user experience, some of the stuff we take for granted today.

Updates to standard experience
* Ability to boot from IDE CD-ROM for A1200/A600/A4000
* Ability to boot from CF Hard disk plugged into PCMCIA slot

3.2 will have some of the things you ask for. Some are too much for this time around, but not out of line with what I and or we would like to do.
As for datatypes - our basic datatypes will be better than the alternatives out there, so not much point in asking to include something that is worse.

[boemann]

Originally Posted by carls

Seconding this.
Cursor blinking is a massive annoyance and should at the very least be opt-out.

For me, the non blinking block cursor is one of the Amiga's little gems that I constantly miss on other platforms. It also seems strange from a coherency standpoint to introduce another way of rendering cursors that clashes with most existing applications and goes against 35 years of precedence.



The VT100 and C64 (for example) had blinking block cursors. Thankfully, the AmigaOS developers decided against the blinking.


Just my $0.02

Ahem Notepad on the very first release of the OS had a (non blinking) line cursor, Textcraft had blinking line cursor, just about every wordprocessor /dtp had blinking line cursor. The shell and also the string gadget didn't but it is far from a tradition (either way).

[Daedalus]

I too prefer the non-blinking block cursor for things like coding, Shell, string gadgets, plain text editors and basically anything that's not WYSIWYG, and a line cursor for WYSIWYG applications. In my mind both situations are very different, and having different cursors as a consequence is actually warranted given the differences in actions.

[Pyromania]

Originally Posted by mateusz_s

Discounts? Really? Come on guys..
How much is for 3.1.4 with ROMS? Like 35€?
Is that so much?
Show some appreciation for the developers,
their work and knowledge.

:

[seb132]

Agree... if a major update was coming out every year I’d happily pay 50€ for it.... now a good idea would be to do multi machines licensing... or even AGA/ECS/OCS licences for all machines of 1 kind you own...

[AC/DC HACKER!]

Originally Posted by carls

Seconding this.
Cursor blinking is a massive annoyance and should at the very least be opt-out.

For me, the non blinking block cursor is one of the Amiga's little gems that I constantly miss on other platforms. It also seems strange from a coherency standpoint to introduce another way of rendering cursors that clashes with most existing applications and goes against 35 years of precedence.

The VT100 and C64 (for example) had blinking block cursors. Thankfully, the AmigaOS developers decided against the blinking.


Just my $0.02

Here's another 0.02 added. Smile! I don't think it's any kind of annoyance, but I do agree with this statement. I just accepted it for the C64, but you're correct, there were times when I was coding that..I would have liked it to Stop. I adore than AmigaOS's doesn't do that.

[Tigerskunk]

Blinking/notblinking is something I didn't even notice for at least the last twenty years.

Wow.

[AC/DC HACKER!]

Depends on much you get into the OS and details. Which also carries over into other aspects of your life.

[eXeler0]

Any news about Cloanto vs Hyperion that would affect the release (and or release date) of 3.2?
I can't find anything recent/useful on Google.