Tony & Friends in Kellogg's Land: I hear the disk spin but game won't start

Maren · 07 August 2009, 03:56

I'm currently running the latest beta, but since I have no idea if this is something inherited from 1.6.1, I'm reporting it here and not in the beta thread.

I tried the 2 ADF versions available from the EAB File Server, but no luck. All I can access is the menu, and instead of the level I'm supposed to warp to right after starting a new game, I get this black screen that won't go away.

Am I doing something wrong?

Cammy · 07 August 2009, 08:47

I get the same thing when I try to play the game on my real A500.

TCD · 07 August 2009, 08:52

Not sure why it doesn't start the level with an A500 config (same result here), but it works fine with an A1200 config

Edit : Just checked it and if you select 2 MB Chip and no Slow Ram it also works with A500 settings (KS 1.3, OCS...)

Maren · 07 August 2009, 09:32

You know what's even weirder? it works in WinFellow with the default setup

Graham Humphrey · 07 August 2009, 10:05

I remember this never used to work on my old A500+ when I was a kid. Worked on my A1200 though. Just assumed it was an AGA game but perhaps not

TCD · 07 August 2009, 10:09

No, it works fine with OCS, but even 1 MB Chip in WinUAE isn't enough. Played a bit more with the settings and it's not cycle-exact or the chipset (OCS/ECS) either.

Toni Wilen · 07 August 2009, 11:19

So the conclusion is: just another weird game that requires extra memory/possibly 68020+ CPU without AGA?

TCD · 07 August 2009, 11:31

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Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

So the conclusion is: just another weird game that requires extra memory/possibly 68020+ CPU without AGA?

Yes. The funny thing is that it works with 68000, KS 1.3 and OCS... it just needs 2 MB Chip

Don_Adan · 07 August 2009, 11:37

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Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

So the conclusion is: just another weird game that requires extra memory/possibly 68020+ CPU without AGA?

No, this is poor crack, I think. Loader needs OS 2.0 or something similar.
This game (original) uses Turrican 3 MFM protection.

Galahad/FLT · 07 August 2009, 11:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maren

I'm currently running the latest beta, but since I have no idea if this is something inherited from 1.6.1, I'm reporting it here and not in the beta thread.

I tried the 2 ADF versions available from the EAB File Server, but no luck. All I can access is the menu, and instead of the level I'm supposed to warp to right after starting a new game, I get this black screen that won't go away.

Am I doing something wrong?

Which cracked versions don't work? Prodigy i'm assuming, thats the only one I can remember from 'back in the day'.

StingRay · 07 August 2009, 12:00

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Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Which cracked versions don't work? Prodigy i'm assuming, thats the only one I can remember from 'back in the day'.

It's not really a crack (game was unprotected)

Then again, PDY releases rarely were.

Galahad/FLT · 07 August 2009, 12:10

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Originally Posted by StingRay

It's not really a crack (game was unprotected)

Then again, PDY releases rarely were.

Nope, its definately protected, its MFM

StingRay · 07 August 2009, 12:24

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Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Nope, its definately protected, its MFM

True indeed.

I seem to remember tho that there was a standard DOS version of that game without any protection which was given away for free as some sort of advertising game and I suppose that is the PDY "crack". But I might be wrong.

Galahad/FLT · 07 August 2009, 12:26

You might be right, because I don't understand how Prodigy could fuck up a memory routine.

Tossers.

Retro-Nerd · 07 August 2009, 17:05

I've uploaded rgen's original wwarp image, which works fine with the WHDLoad patch. Maybe you guys can make a proper ADF out of it.

Galahad/FLT · 07 August 2009, 17:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

I've uploaded rgen's original wwarp image, which works fine with the WHDLoad patch. Maybe you guys can make a proper ADF out of it.

Is that one in German?

Retro-Nerd · 07 August 2009, 17:10

Yep.

dlfrsilver · 07 August 2009, 17:30

the problem is that wwarp doesn't work under winuae

Or else it would be so easy
to write back in an extended ADF....

EDIT : Hey, you can write back this WWP file directly on a standard drive lol

I have created a fresh disk. next step, extended adf creation via powercopy

Galahad/FLT · 07 August 2009, 17:56

I've looked at the Prodigy version, and I'm not sure they've actually done anything wrong (I know, who knew!... Siriax the muppet!)

If its a memory problem it should boot up and say so.

Exactly how far does the Prodigy version get?

Have you got an external drive attached? Because one of the things this game does right at the start is to check for availability of 3 external drives (on a one disk game!?!!), this isn't the fault of Prodigy, as the original does it.

TCD · 07 August 2009, 18:04

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Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Exactly how far does the Prodigy version get?

After you choose start you see the overview map and after that the screen goes black and the disk led goes to 36 and stays green.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Have you got an external drive attached? Because one of the things this game does right at the start is to check for availability of 3 external drives (on a one disk game!?!!), this isn't the fault of Prodigy, as the original does it.

Just tried it with 2, 3 and 4 drives enabled in WinUAE and still the same result.

07 August 2009, 03:56	#1
Maren Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: * Posts: 567	Tony & Friends in Kellogg's Land: I hear the disk spin but game won't start I'm currently running the latest beta, but since I have no idea if this is something inherited from 1.6.1, I'm reporting it here and not in the beta thread. I tried the 2 ADF versions available from the EAB File Server, but no luck. All I can access is the menu, and instead of the level I'm supposed to warp to right after starting a new game, I get this black screen that won't go away. Am I doing something wrong? Last edited by Maren; 03 March 2010 at 20:09.

07 August 2009, 17:30	#18
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,484	the problem is that wwarp doesn't work under winuae Or else it would be so easy to write back in an extended ADF.... EDIT : Hey, you can write back this WWP file directly on a standard drive lol I have created a fresh disk. next step, extended adf creation via powercopy Last edited by dlfrsilver; 07 August 2009 at 17:52.

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07 August 2009, 08:47	#2
Cammy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tasmania, Australia Age: 39 Posts: 1,189	I get the same thing when I try to play the game on my real A500.

07 August 2009, 08:52	#3
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,774	Not sure why it doesn't start the level with an A500 config (same result here), but it works fine with an A1200 config Edit : Just checked it and if you select 2 MB Chip and no Slow Ram it also works with A500 settings (KS 1.3, OCS...)

07 August 2009, 09:32	#4
Maren Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: * Posts: 567	You know what's even weirder? it works in WinFellow with the default setup

07 August 2009, 10:05	#5
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	I remember this never used to work on my old A500+ when I was a kid. Worked on my A1200 though. Just assumed it was an AGA game but perhaps not

07 August 2009, 10:09	#6
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,774	No, it works fine with OCS, but even 1 MB Chip in WinUAE isn't enough. Played a bit more with the settings and it's not cycle-exact or the chipset (OCS/ECS) either.

07 August 2009, 11:19	#7
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,535	So the conclusion is: just another weird game that requires extra memory/possibly 68020+ CPU without AGA?

07 August 2009, 12:26	#14
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,014	You might be right, because I don't understand how Prodigy could fuck up a memory routine. Tossers.

07 August 2009, 17:05	#15
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,453	I've uploaded rgen's original wwarp image, which works fine with the WHDLoad patch. Maybe you guys can make a proper ADF out of it.

07 August 2009, 17:10	#17
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,453	Yep.

07 August 2009, 17:56	#19
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,014	I've looked at the Prodigy version, and I'm not sure they've actually done anything wrong (I know, who knew!... Siriax the muppet!) If its a memory problem it should boot up and say so. Exactly how far does the Prodigy version get? Have you got an external drive attached? Because one of the things this game does right at the start is to check for availability of 3 external drives (on a one disk game!?!!), this isn't the fault of Prodigy, as the original does it.

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