how can I improve my workbench

01 May 2003, 16:25

Sorry if out of topic...
I've an A1200/170Mb Hd.
Workbench 3.1 installed on it.

Is it possible to change icons?
Is it available somewhere a tool like M$oft Window$ menù,
tool bar, or any easy way to lunch my fav applications and games?

Can I put an image as wbench background?
Sorry for all my newby questions but I've no manuals....

kafiend · 01 May 2003, 21:17

check out the Aminet - ummm...theres a few bits there...

Theres also threads on the forums here discussing essential Appz etc.

thomas · 02 May 2003, 08:48

Get AIAB, it runs on a real Amiga, too.

http://aiab.emuunlim.com/

Big-Byte · 02 May 2003, 09:47

Or get the classic workbench from http://download.abime.net/

02 May 2003, 23:58

thks for links.
does anybody use classicWB on real Amys?

I've an A1200 w/out any expansion or graphic card:
just 2Mb chip ram and 170Mb HDisk.

ClassicWb ADV, the coolest one, simply runs slower on basic
amigas or it doesn't work at all?

Severin · 03 May 2003, 00:12

ok, first of all AIAB is not really a good idea for the beginner as it totaly changes the system setup (iirc it totaly changes the s:s-s and s:u-s and adds it own as well) which can lead to problems, and even getting it onto the A1200 could be a major problem for a learner

maxs, first of all play with the stuff in your preferences drawer, only click on use, never save until your sure you know what it does (if you mess things up just reboot and everything will be restored unless your clicked save)

look on aminet as kafiend says, look in the util/workbench and pix/back sections for a start...

as you only have chip ram, forget about pictures as backgrounds and only use 4 or 8 colours for workbench. The best thing you can do is get at least an 8Mb memory expansion or better an accelerator (min 030/50) before you start to tweak the system...

rattus · 03 May 2003, 00:16

I use ClassicWB on my A1200 with 030/16MB expansion! it's ace!

hmm....since you only have 2MB chipram you will have to settle for ClassicWB Lite version...ClassicWB Full requires a bit of fastram and ClassicWB Advanced requires lots of fastram and an RGB monitor!

03 May 2003, 16:55

well
I'm a little bit disappointed..

I WANT ClassicWB ADV working on my little baby.
It seems so cool

I've unscrewed my Amy to see how the Hard Drive is fitted on
and one of these days I'll replace it with my new 2.5" 1Gb HD.

Amy is already connected to a RGB Monitor..

But RAM...

On the Mother Board ther's no place to fit any expansion..
the only way seems to be an ad-on card to place on the right
bottom side of the board.

what's the difference between Chip and Fast ram?
If I bought an acceleration card (I'm looking for a Phase5 /050)
can I expand both (chip and fast) or just fast ram?

Are there other ways to expand chip and fast?

And how about graphic cards? Can I put a G-Card and an Acc-Card together?

tks for your support, max

thomas · 03 May 2003, 18:08

The A1200 is already fitted with the maximum of 2MB of chip ram.

Compared to a PC the chip ram is the ram on a graphics card or a sound card. With the only difference that on the Amiga all custom chips share the same memory and the processor can access it, too.

Fast ram is usual memory, only accessible by the processor (it is faster than chip ram because it is not decelerated by custom chips doing DMA.

rattus · 03 May 2003, 18:17

Quote:

Originally posted by maxs
well
I'm a little bit disappointed..

I WANT ClassicWB ADV working on my little baby.
It seems so cool

I've unscrewed my Amy to see how the Hard Drive is fitted on
and one of these days I'll replace it with my new 2.5" 1Gb HD.

Amy is already connected to a RGB Monitor..

But RAM...

On the Mother Board ther's no place to fit any expansion..
the only way seems to be an ad-on card to place on the right
bottom side of the board.

what's the difference between Chip and Fast ram?
If I bought an acceleration card (I'm looking for a Phase5 /050)
can I expand both (chip and fast) or just fast ram?

Are there other ways to expand chip and fast?

And how about graphic cards? Can I put a G-Card and an Acc-Card together?

tks for your support, max

Don't worry mate

get on ebay and see if you can bag a Blizzard 1230-IV accelerator card and put 8MB or more of memory onto it (this will automatically be utilised as fastram) then you are all set!

here is some information on the Blizzard:
http://www.amiga-hardware.com/blizzard1230iv.html

I hope this helps!

03 May 2003, 18:29

yyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

rattus · 03 May 2003, 18:53

erm...thats a good thing...right?

hehe, glad you're all happy now

I'm thinking myself of getting an amiga monitor and upgrading to ClassicWB ADV...perhaps you could recommend me a monitor? look for the thread I started in Retrogaming General Discussion

03 May 2003, 19:07

I'm looking for a new one me too!!!
Currently I'm using an old Philips monitor...
I'm digging on the net looking for the best choice.
I'm thinking about a STFT monitor or TVset but they aren't
exactly cheap....

I'll let you know.
What do you do with your Amy? Just games or some graphics?
cheers

rattus · 03 May 2003, 19:58

Me? I mostly use my meega for WHDload-installed games and some messing around with Deluxe Paint + ProTracker

Thinking about trying my hand at making stuff with AmiBlitz (formery known as BlitzBasic) too...

03 May 2003, 21:45

what exactly are WHDLoad games?
Are they usable on a real Amy?
I'm going mad!!!

Too many informations to keep in mind!!!!

I'm new on Amys, at the same time I'm collecting infos
to fix one of my Sinclair Spectrum, and I'm working on a
cartridge dumper for my Vic20!!!!

AAARRRRGGGHHHHH

CodyJarrett · 03 May 2003, 21:47

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Cody's WHDLoad FAQ

01 May 2003, 16:25	#1
maxs Posts: n/a	how can I improve my workbench Sorry if out of topic... I've an A1200/170Mb Hd. Workbench 3.1 installed on it. Is it possible to change icons? Is it available somewhere a tool like M$oft Window$ menù, tool bar, or any easy way to lunch my fav applications and games? Can I put an image as wbench background? Sorry for all my newby questions but I've no manuals....

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01 May 2003, 21:17	#2
kafiend Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Narnia Posts: 29	check out the Aminet - ummm...theres a few bits there... Theres also threads on the forums here discussing essential Appz etc.

02 May 2003, 08:48	#3
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,004	Get AIAB, it runs on a real Amiga, too. http://aiab.emuunlim.com/

02 May 2003, 09:47	#4
Big-Byte Long time member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: UK Posts: 754	Or get the classic workbench from http://download.abime.net/

02 May 2003, 23:58	#5
maxs Posts: n/a	thks for links. does anybody use classicWB on real Amys? I've an A1200 w/out any expansion or graphic card: just 2Mb chip ram and 170Mb HDisk. ClassicWb ADV, the coolest one, simply runs slower on basic amigas or it doesn't work at all?

03 May 2003, 00:12	#6
Severin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gloucester / UK Posts: 700	ok, first of all AIAB is not really a good idea for the beginner as it totaly changes the system setup (iirc it totaly changes the s:s-s and s:u-s and adds it own as well) which can lead to problems, and even getting it onto the A1200 could be a major problem for a learner maxs, first of all play with the stuff in your preferences drawer, only click on use, never save until your sure you know what it does (if you mess things up just reboot and everything will be restored unless your clicked save) look on aminet as kafiend says, look in the util/workbench and pix/back sections for a start... as you only have chip ram, forget about pictures as backgrounds and only use 4 or 8 colours for workbench. The best thing you can do is get at least an 8Mb memory expansion or better an accelerator (min 030/50) before you start to tweak the system...

03 May 2003, 00:16	#7
rattus Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 328	I use ClassicWB on my A1200 with 030/16MB expansion! it's ace! hmm....since you only have 2MB chipram you will have to settle for ClassicWB Lite version...ClassicWB Full requires a bit of fastram and ClassicWB Advanced requires lots of fastram and an RGB monitor!

03 May 2003, 16:55	#8
maxs Posts: n/a	well I'm a little bit disappointed.. I WANT ClassicWB ADV working on my little baby. It seems so cool I've unscrewed my Amy to see how the Hard Drive is fitted on and one of these days I'll replace it with my new 2.5" 1Gb HD. Amy is already connected to a RGB Monitor.. But RAM... On the Mother Board ther's no place to fit any expansion.. the only way seems to be an ad-on card to place on the right bottom side of the board. what's the difference between Chip and Fast ram? If I bought an acceleration card (I'm looking for a Phase5 /050) can I expand both (chip and fast) or just fast ram? Are there other ways to expand chip and fast? And how about graphic cards? Can I put a G-Card and an Acc-Card together? tks for your support, max

03 May 2003, 18:08	#9
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,004	The A1200 is already fitted with the maximum of 2MB of chip ram. Compared to a PC the chip ram is the ram on a graphics card or a sound card. With the only difference that on the Amiga all custom chips share the same memory and the processor can access it, too. Fast ram is usual memory, only accessible by the processor (it is faster than chip ram because it is not decelerated by custom chips doing DMA.

03 May 2003, 18:29	#11
maxs Posts: n/a	yyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

03 May 2003, 18:53	#12
rattus Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 328	erm...thats a good thing...right? hehe, glad you're all happy now I'm thinking myself of getting an amiga monitor and upgrading to ClassicWB ADV...perhaps you could recommend me a monitor? look for the thread I started in Retrogaming General Discussion

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03 May 2003, 19:07	#13
maxs Posts: n/a	I'm looking for a new one me too!!! Currently I'm using an old Philips monitor... I'm digging on the net looking for the best choice. I'm thinking about a STFT monitor or TVset but they aren't exactly cheap.... I'll let you know. What do you do with your Amy? Just games or some graphics? cheers

03 May 2003, 19:58	#14
rattus Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 328	Me? I mostly use my meega for WHDload-installed games and some messing around with Deluxe Paint + ProTracker Thinking about trying my hand at making stuff with AmiBlitz (formery known as BlitzBasic) too...

03 May 2003, 21:45	#15
maxs Posts: n/a	what exactly are WHDLoad games? Are they usable on a real Amy? I'm going mad!!! Too many informations to keep in mind!!!! I'm new on Amys, at the same time I'm collecting infos to fix one of my Sinclair Spectrum, and I'm working on a cartridge dumper for my Vic20!!!! AAARRRRGGGHHHHH

03 May 2003, 21:47	#16
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,161	Check out my WHDLoad FAQ here: Cody's WHDLoad FAQ