The Blitz

10 January 2014, 13:22

Hello everyone, I recently aquired a Petro T. Tyschtschenko A1200 to get a bit of Amiga500 days nostalgia plus the obvious upgrade and a nice hard drive etc.
I wondered if some kind person could please upload a copy of the original Blitz Basic (AMIGA 500) manual to somewhere for me..

I know Im in for an avalanche of people telling me to use blitz 2 or ami blitz or blitz3d or blitzmax or (insert favorite Blitz/Amos/other coding language here) but I would really like to learn Blitz 1 because it seams VERY simple

and I had a friend (Simon Taylor now Plastic Cow games) back in the 90`s who made some really great games with it and got good ratings in Amiga magazines.

I ripped a list of the blitz basic commands from LSD Docs disk 019 and googled the crap out of it but it seems to have disappeared in favor of all the above mentioned versions manuals. It seems like a shame its not there, the examples are easily readable and I want to start out very simple.

PLEEEEAAASE Someone!!!!

s2325 · 10 January 2014, 13:42

You can try from EAB server:
/Commodore_Amiga/Collection/PD/F1 Licenseware Software/The_Guide_To_Blitz_Basic (F1-136A).DMS
/Commodore_Amiga/Collection/PD/F1 Licenseware Software/The_Guide_To_Blitz_Basic (F1-136B).DMS
or ftp://easyjohn.dyndns.info/Amiga/Doc...0Tutorials.pdf

10 January 2014, 13:44

Thank you for the reply s2325, I have these and despite the title they too are Blitz Basic 2 guides.. The commands are not at all compatible im afraid.

s2325 · 10 January 2014, 13:45

What about pdf? My post was edited.

10 January 2014, 14:14

I have looked at these over the last few days and they look pretty good but again they are blitz 2.. I guess Blitz 1 either wasnt well known or was quickly superseded. I realize Blitz 2 is more powerful and if needs be I will have a go at it but TBH its not gonna scratch my nostalgia itch.. I used GL Basic on the PC/GP2x and I love it... Blitz 1 seems quite similar but blitz 2 seems 'orrible to me lol

emufan · 10 January 2014, 16:18

back2roots has BltzBasic v1 download - "Blitz Basic 1 ECS Mark Sibly / Memory and Storage Technology 1990"

edit: this one is already in Tosec: (eab fileserver)
Blitz Basic v2.0 (1990)(Memory and Storage Technology)(Disk 1 of 2).zip
Blitz Basic v2.0 (1990)(Memory and Storage Technology)(Disk 2 of 2).zip

edit: damn, the manual your looking for only?

10 January 2014, 16:47

@emufan Hi, thanks for the reply.. Yeah thats the ADF I am messing around with.. But there is no manual just a few good little examples.. (some of it commented, some of it not).

Just to confuse matters its BLITZ BASIC version 2.0 (NOT Blitz basic2 version x.x)

After 3 days off work googling for the original blitz basic manual It appears there isnt one online. There are however 20 or so appearences of blitz2 manual/guide and other related magazine stuff.

Im very surprised at that :/

I think its gonna take someone kind to upload it before me or anyone else can really use that BB1 ADF

emufan · 10 January 2014, 17:08

yeah, the version'ing was confusing me a bit

twiggy owns a manual for version 1 - maybe you can visit him and lend the book for a copy session.

demolition · 10 January 2014, 17:29

Seems like everybody forgot about BB1 once BB2 came out.. Can't find much either.

I found this, and I guess this is source for BB1?
http://aminet.net/package/dev/basic/BlitzAndPieces
Not much, but better than nothing.

10 January 2014, 17:30

That looks promising, well.. 2009.. I hope he is still around, he might not have it now, Ill message him tho.

@Demolition Ill have a look now

..... Nope.. Blitz 2 syntax and wont compile.

I may give up and try again with Blitz 2 but its a shame because I have a couple of sprites on mouse and joystick with foreground and background working in BB1 (nothing in BB2 yet)

Coagulus · 10 January 2014, 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Defender

I may give up and try again with Blitz 2 but its a shame because I have a couple of sprites on mouse and joystick with foreground and background working in BB1 (nothing in BB2 yet)

Go for it, there are a fair few people on here still using Blitz2 and it's pretty powerful once you get used to it.

demolition · 11 January 2014, 00:35

Is BB2 backwards compatible with BB1 code, that is, is BB2 just an extended version of the original BB or did they change some integral parts?

Der Wanderer · 11 January 2014, 06:41

@demolition
There probably a reason why BlitzBasic2 superseded BlitzBasic1 so quickly...

I have never seen BlitzBasic1, nor have I seen any program written in it. But BlitzBasic2 can read BlitzBasic1 source code files (this are NOT text files), so I assume the syntax is reasonably similar. The so called "BlitzLibs" are probably not 100% compatible though, but there is a good chance that BB2 is almost a superset. Give it a try maybe.

12 January 2014, 17:55

@ Der Wanderer.. Hi, I tried compiling the example sourse files that came with blitz 1 in the blitz 2 compiler.. It didnt work so I tried altering the things that brought up an error, basically everything gives an error lol..

Im gonna have a go at Blitz 2 with a view to a simple pong game using Bobs but there is much still to baffle me.. blit modes, slices, screen modes, colour pallets, colisions etc.. All of which are alien to me with Blitz2

Twiggy · 14 January 2014, 22:46

Hi. I've got the Blitz 1 manual and I scanned it in. Get it here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...itz1manual.zip

prowler · 14 January 2014, 22:55

Nice one, Twiggy!

Thankyou very much.

10 January 2014, 13:22	#1
Defender Posts: n/a	The Blitz Hello everyone, I recently aquired a Petro T. Tyschtschenko A1200 to get a bit of Amiga500 days nostalgia plus the obvious upgrade and a nice hard drive etc. I wondered if some kind person could please upload a copy of the original Blitz Basic (AMIGA 500) manual to somewhere for me.. I know Im in for an avalanche of people telling me to use blitz 2 or ami blitz or blitz3d or blitzmax or (insert favorite Blitz/Amos/other coding language here) but I would really like to learn Blitz 1 because it seams VERY simple and I had a friend (Simon Taylor now Plastic Cow games) back in the 90`s who made some really great games with it and got good ratings in Amiga magazines. I ripped a list of the blitz basic commands from LSD Docs disk 019 and googled the crap out of it but it seems to have disappeared in favor of all the above mentioned versions manuals. It seems like a shame its not there, the examples are easily readable and I want to start out very simple. PLEEEEAAASE Someone!!!!

10 January 2014, 16:18	#6
emufan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: #DrainTheSwamp Posts: 4,545	back2roots has BltzBasic v1 download - "Blitz Basic 1 ECS Mark Sibly / Memory and Storage Technology 1990" edit: this one is already in Tosec: (eab fileserver) Blitz Basic v2.0 (1990)(Memory and Storage Technology)(Disk 1 of 2).zip Blitz Basic v2.0 (1990)(Memory and Storage Technology)(Disk 2 of 2).zip edit: damn, the manual your looking for only? Last edited by emufan; 10 January 2014 at 16:46.

10 January 2014, 17:30	#10
Defender Posts: n/a	That looks promising, well.. 2009.. I hope he is still around, he might not have it now, Ill message him tho. @Demolition Ill have a look now ..... Nope.. Blitz 2 syntax and wont compile. I may give up and try again with Blitz 2 but its a shame because I have a couple of sprites on mouse and joystick with foreground and background working in BB1 (nothing in BB2 yet) Last edited by Defender; 10 January 2014 at 18:04. Reason: Back-to-back posts merged

11 January 2014, 06:41	#13
Der Wanderer Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Mountain View / USA Posts: 34	@demolition There probably a reason why BlitzBasic2 superseded BlitzBasic1 so quickly... I have never seen BlitzBasic1, nor have I seen any program written in it. But BlitzBasic2 can read BlitzBasic1 source code files (this are NOT text files), so I assume the syntax is reasonably similar. The so called "BlitzLibs" are probably not 100% compatible though, but there is a good chance that BB2 is almost a superset. Give it a try maybe. Last edited by Der Wanderer; 11 January 2014 at 06:47.

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10 January 2014, 13:42	#2
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	You can try from EAB server: /Commodore_Amiga/Collection/PD/F1 Licenseware Software/The_Guide_To_Blitz_Basic (F1-136A).DMS /Commodore_Amiga/Collection/PD/F1 Licenseware Software/The_Guide_To_Blitz_Basic (F1-136B).DMS or ftp://easyjohn.dyndns.info/Amiga/Doc...0Tutorials.pdf

10 January 2014, 13:44	#3
Defender Posts: n/a	Thank you for the reply s2325, I have these and despite the title they too are Blitz Basic 2 guides.. The commands are not at all compatible im afraid.

10 January 2014, 13:45	#4
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	What about pdf? My post was edited.

10 January 2014, 14:14	#5
Defender Posts: n/a	I have looked at these over the last few days and they look pretty good but again they are blitz 2.. I guess Blitz 1 either wasnt well known or was quickly superseded. I realize Blitz 2 is more powerful and if needs be I will have a go at it but TBH its not gonna scratch my nostalgia itch.. I used GL Basic on the PC/GP2x and I love it... Blitz 1 seems quite similar but blitz 2 seems 'orrible to me lol

10 January 2014, 16:47	#7
Defender Posts: n/a	@emufan Hi, thanks for the reply.. Yeah thats the ADF I am messing around with.. But there is no manual just a few good little examples.. (some of it commented, some of it not). Just to confuse matters its BLITZ BASIC version 2.0 (NOT Blitz basic2 version x.x) After 3 days off work googling for the original blitz basic manual It appears there isnt one online. There are however 20 or so appearences of blitz2 manual/guide and other related magazine stuff. Im very surprised at that :/ I think its gonna take someone kind to upload it before me or anyone else can really use that BB1 ADF

10 January 2014, 17:08	#8
emufan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: #DrainTheSwamp Posts: 4,545	yeah, the version'ing was confusing me a bit twiggy owns a manual for version 1 - maybe you can visit him and lend the book for a copy session.

10 January 2014, 17:29	#9
demolition Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Copenhagen / DK Age: 43 Posts: 4,190	Seems like everybody forgot about BB1 once BB2 came out.. Can't find much either. I found this, and I guess this is source for BB1? http://aminet.net/package/dev/basic/BlitzAndPieces Not much, but better than nothing.

11 January 2014, 00:35	#12
demolition Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Copenhagen / DK Age: 43 Posts: 4,190	Is BB2 backwards compatible with BB1 code, that is, is BB2 just an extended version of the original BB or did they change some integral parts?

12 January 2014, 17:55	#14
Defender Posts: n/a	@ Der Wanderer.. Hi, I tried compiling the example sourse files that came with blitz 1 in the blitz 2 compiler.. It didnt work so I tried altering the things that brought up an error, basically everything gives an error lol.. Im gonna have a go at Blitz 2 with a view to a simple pong game using Bobs but there is much still to baffle me.. blit modes, slices, screen modes, colour pallets, colisions etc.. All of which are alien to me with Blitz2

14 January 2014, 22:46	#15
Twiggy \m/ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Devon, U.K. Posts: 573	Hi. I've got the Blitz 1 manual and I scanned it in. Get it here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...itz1manual.zip

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14 January 2014, 22:55	#16
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Nice one, Twiggy! Thankyou very much.