Accessing the internet through WinUAE

DisposableHero · 23 June 2015, 21:56

Back in the day I considered getting a modem for my A1200, but ultimately accepted around that time that I had to move on to PCs as the software just wasn't there to make use of a high-end Amiga. However, the fact that WinUAE can apparently use the host PC's internet connection has made me curious about getting it up and running within Workbench 3.0. Presumably I'd need driver software and a web browser, what is easily available and easily installed within WinUAE? What kind of connection speed can I expect, and which websites would work?

Arnie · 23 June 2015, 22:30

Good suggestion, It would be nice if there was an installable package to get you started.

I just tried Aweb with a 3.1 install and it crashed WinUAE with a HALT3, so it's not as straight forward as it looks.

I'm going to try NetSurfAGA......

emufan · 23 June 2015, 22:37

internet access within WinuAE you just have to enable "bsdsocket.library" in miscellaneous panel. no need to install any driver.
NetsurfAGA i would also suggest for WinUAE (download).

edit: "expansion" panel not "misc" ( using winuae 3.1 )

DisposableHero · 23 June 2015, 22:43

I found bsdsocket.library in the Expansions tab (I'm running WinUAE 2.8.1) but the option is greyed-out. There's a dropdown menu below it, also greyed out, whcih says 'cable disconnected' (I'm not running my PC's connection wirelessly, before you ask). Maybe I'm biting off something I can't chew (as well as having no real need to chew it).

Arnie · 23 June 2015, 22:45

You have to enable it before you start the config. Try AmiKit, it's already configured for the Internet.

DisposableHero · 23 June 2015, 22:50

How? Sorry, I'm stumped.

Arnie · 23 June 2015, 22:52

Click on WinUAE, select your config, click load, then expansions panel, then start.

emufan · 23 June 2015, 22:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by DisposableHero

How? Sorry, I'm stumped.

start winuae, goto "configuration" - choose and "Load" your config only,
then goto "expansion" panel and enable bsdsocket.library".

now save your configuration and start your emulation

edit: "expansion" panel not "misc" ( using winuae 3.1 here )

btw: why do you use 2.8.1? there is a stable version 3.1

Arnie · 23 June 2015, 23:03

Seems Aweb only likes OS3.9....

DisposableHero · 23 June 2015, 23:34

Now I need a program to extract LHA files (I've had but expired trial versions of WinZip and BitZipper). And work out how to get files from a PC hard disk to a Amiga hard disk file. Boy, I feel like a noob.

Arnie · 23 June 2015, 23:38

Place all the progs you download into a Windows dir then add the windows dir as a HardDrive.

WinRar unpacks .lha as does 7zip.

Arnie · 23 June 2015, 23:46

Netsurf has better graphics but is a bit slow on A4000/040 128mb fast.

emufan · 24 June 2015, 00:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by DisposableHero

Now I need a program to extract LHA files (I've had but expired trial versions of WinZip and BitZipper).

try winrar 4.20 version ( later 5.xx version came with advertizement ?!)
www. rarlab .com / rar / wrar420.exe ( remove spaces ) - it does not stop working after trial, only little nag window.

AMIGASYSTEM · 24 June 2015, 12:37

Tested the latest version of NetSurf-m68k on WinUAE and I must say it is much improved, only problem is that with the setting of the CPU 060 NetSurf crashes.

Arnie · 24 June 2015, 12:45

What 060 config are you using Model/OS ?

AMIGASYSTEM · 24 June 2015, 14:34

Tested on WinUAE OS3.9 68060, it works well instead of the CPU 68040

Toni Wilen · 24 June 2015, 15:10

Normal problem: missing or not loaded 68060.library.

AMIGASYSTEM · 24 June 2015, 15:51

Thanks Toni, many years ago I had an A4000/060 but remember what to copy, in Libs had just entered the "68060.library", copied the entire contents of the archive 040_060Libs.lha in Libs; now NetSurf starts smoothly even with the CPU 060.

------------------ Italiano ----------------

Grazie Toni, tanti anni fa avevo un A4000/060 ma ricordavo più cosa copiare, in Libs avevo inserito solo la "68060.library", copiato tutto il contenuto dell'archivio 040_060Libs.lha in Libs; adesso NetSurf si avvia senza problemi anche con la CPU 060.

alanwall · 24 June 2015, 23:14

using AmiKit on Windows,most Internet program work except AmiTradeCenter.
using AmiKit on Linux via Wine,Yam does not work but SimpleMail does.
AmFTP works on both Windows and Linux.Attached is my workbench

Retrofan · 25 June 2015, 01:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwall

using AmiKit on Windows,most Internet program work except AmiTradeCenter.

I've just tried AmiTradeCenter and "INET Support" "YAM" works, so the program works. Surely a lot of the links should be updated or deleted. If someone is up for the task I will gladly try them.

23 June 2015, 21:56	#1
DisposableHero Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: England Posts: 188	Accessing the internet through WinUAE Back in the day I considered getting a modem for my A1200, but ultimately accepted around that time that I had to move on to PCs as the software just wasn't there to make use of a high-end Amiga. However, the fact that WinUAE can apparently use the host PC's internet connection has made me curious about getting it up and running within Workbench 3.0. Presumably I'd need driver software and a web browser, what is easily available and easily installed within WinUAE? What kind of connection speed can I expect, and which websites would work?

23 June 2015, 22:37	#3
emufan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: #DrainTheSwamp Posts: 4,545	internet access within WinuAE you just have to enable "bsdsocket.library" in miscellaneous panel. no need to install any driver. NetsurfAGA i would also suggest for WinUAE (download). edit: "expansion" panel not "misc" ( using winuae 3.1 ) Last edited by emufan; 23 June 2015 at 22:55.

23 June 2015, 23:03	#9
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Seems Aweb only likes OS3.9.... Last edited by Arnie; 27 June 2015 at 01:09.

23 June 2015, 23:46	#12
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Netsurf has better graphics but is a bit slow on A4000/040 128mb fast. Last edited by Arnie; 27 June 2015 at 01:09.

24 June 2015, 14:34	#16
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,252	Tested on WinUAE OS3.9 68060, it works well instead of the CPU 68040 Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 23 January 2016 at 08:12.

23 June 2015, 22:30	#2
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Good suggestion, It would be nice if there was an installable package to get you started. I just tried Aweb with a 3.1 install and it crashed WinUAE with a HALT3, so it's not as straight forward as it looks. I'm going to try NetSurfAGA......

23 June 2015, 22:43	#4
DisposableHero Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: England Posts: 188	I found bsdsocket.library in the Expansions tab (I'm running WinUAE 2.8.1) but the option is greyed-out. There's a dropdown menu below it, also greyed out, whcih says 'cable disconnected' (I'm not running my PC's connection wirelessly, before you ask). Maybe I'm biting off something I can't chew (as well as having no real need to chew it).

23 June 2015, 22:45	#5
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	You have to enable it before you start the config. Try AmiKit, it's already configured for the Internet.

23 June 2015, 22:50	#6
DisposableHero Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: England Posts: 188	How? Sorry, I'm stumped.

23 June 2015, 22:52	#7
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Click on WinUAE, select your config, click load, then expansions panel, then start.

23 June 2015, 23:34	#10
DisposableHero Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: England Posts: 188	Now I need a program to extract LHA files (I've had but expired trial versions of WinZip and BitZipper). And work out how to get files from a PC hard disk to a Amiga hard disk file. Boy, I feel like a noob.

23 June 2015, 23:38	#11
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Place all the progs you download into a Windows dir then add the windows dir as a HardDrive. WinRar unpacks .lha as does 7zip.

24 June 2015, 12:37	#14
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,252	Tested the latest version of NetSurf-m68k on WinUAE and I must say it is much improved, only problem is that with the setting of the CPU 060 NetSurf crashes.

24 June 2015, 12:45	#15
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	What 060 config are you using Model/OS ?

24 June 2015, 15:10	#17
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,513	Normal problem: missing or not loaded 68060.library.

24 June 2015, 15:51	#18
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,252	Thanks Toni, many years ago I had an A4000/060 but remember what to copy, in Libs had just entered the "68060.library", copied the entire contents of the archive 040_060Libs.lha in Libs; now NetSurf starts smoothly even with the CPU 060. ------------------ Italiano ---------------- Grazie Toni, tanti anni fa avevo un A4000/060 ma ricordavo più cosa copiare, in Libs avevo inserito solo la "68060.library", copiato tutto il contenuto dell'archivio 040_060Libs.lha in Libs; adesso NetSurf si avvia senza problemi anche con la CPU 060.

24 June 2015, 23:14	#19
alanwall Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Eugene,Oregon,USA Posts: 59	using AmiKit on Windows,most Internet program work except AmiTradeCenter. using AmiKit on Linux via Wine,Yam does not work but SimpleMail does. AmFTP works on both Windows and Linux.Attached is my workbench

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