Changing Quit Key for Amiga 600

cleland909 · 14 July 2009, 04:02

I've read a few threads on this but I'm still having problems. What do I use to edit the WHDLoad.pref file and change the quit key to "F10" for my Amiga 600 since it does not have a numeric pad for the "prntsc" key that some programs use. I am using Classic Workbench Lite. When I double click the WHDLoad.pref file it opens and I know I want the quit key value to be $59 but it won't let me change anything. Thanks, I know this is a simple one, but I'm and idiot

Retro-Nerd · 14 July 2009, 05:03

Click mouse right -> Workbench -> Startup -> WHDLoad -> WHDLoad Prefs. Then you can edit the whdload.prefs file with Quitkey=$59. Don't forget to save the edit.

cleland909 · 14 July 2009, 05:17

Awesome, Thanks Retro-Nerd! Now it asks for Tabs=Spaces??? Do I select yes or no?

Retro-Nerd · 14 July 2009, 05:22

Edit: select no, i assume this is a text editor message?

Kyon · 14 July 2009, 10:28

very good info for me

because print screen quit not working on me

thanks retro

Retro-Nerd · 14 July 2009, 15:47

Print Screen = "*" on the PC or real Amiga numpad.

Kyon · 14 July 2009, 20:47

yeah its worked

cleland909 · 15 July 2009, 03:44

Hmmm. It still does not work for me. I did edit the file and save, but when I launch say Defender of the Crown it still says "PrtSc" to quit. I pressed "F10" anyway but no response. Looked at the whdload.prefs file and it did say:
;QuitKey=$59

on the line, am I missing something?

Retro-Nerd · 15 July 2009, 04:01

Remove the ";" and then it works.

cleland909 · 15 July 2009, 05:27

Thank you so much Retro-Nerd, it works indeed. If only the world operated like the EAB community, all problems would be solved almost instantly. Thanks again for the user support.

Photon · 19 October 2009, 04:59

I tried $2b, which is supposed to be the "blank" key next to the Return key, but it doesn't work. Is there a special keycode map (with which ones that are available) for WHDload? Cos I used the value in HRM.

I'm using WHDload on an A600.

Photon · 19 October 2009, 05:51

Never mind, the key between left shift and Z worked ($30)!

alexh · 19 October 2009, 09:21

Quite a lot of WHDload titles cannot quit back to Workbench though when on a 68000 CPU.

Photon · 22 October 2009, 12:13

Weird. What's the reason one can return to WB from a 68000 based game only if one has a 68020 or higher?

StingRay · 22 October 2009, 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Photon

Weird. What's the reason one can return to WB from a 68000 based game only if one has a 68020 or higher?

Keyboard IRQ/routines need to be patched for that to work on 68000. If the slave coder forgot that you won't be able to quit on 68000 machines. On 68020+ systems WHDLoad performs some "black magic" that requires VBR relocation which doesn't work on 68000 for obvious reasons.

Photon · 22 October 2009, 12:57

Patched for WHDload, or patched for each slave with this small (grr) glitch?

killergorilla · 22 October 2009, 12:59

The code needs to be changed for each slave that doesn't quit on an 68000.

I have no idea how many there are but from what I've read it's not that tricky to fix, it'd just take time to do them all.

StingRay · 22 October 2009, 13:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Photon

Patched for WHDload, or patched for each slave with this small (grr) glitch?

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

If the slave coder forgot that

;D

Photon · 22 October 2009, 13:39

Stingray, don't be like that.

I ofc meant if the slaves in question can all be patched with a change in WHDload core.

;D

Photon · 22 October 2009, 13:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

The code needs to be changed for each slave that doesn't quit on an 68000.

I have no idea how many there are but from what I've read it's not that tricky to fix, it'd just take time to do them all.

If what I mentioned above is possible at all, it would save you a crapload of work I think! Even if one could narrow it down to which games needs the QuitFix (I could help with this.)

Maybe if the user has selected a fixed quitkey (as is very necessary on A600!!), something could be bodged? Maybe enable it separately with an option in prefs (to preserve compatibility with the defaults), or even something with a global key, like "if blank key in the cutout of the return key OR the slave quitkey pressed, quit to wb" could be easier?

14 July 2009, 04:02	#1
cleland909 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: United States Posts: 22	Changing Quit Key for Amiga 600 I've read a few threads on this but I'm still having problems. What do I use to edit the WHDLoad.pref file and change the quit key to "F10" for my Amiga 600 since it does not have a numeric pad for the "prntsc" key that some programs use. I am using Classic Workbench Lite. When I double click the WHDLoad.pref file it opens and I know I want the quit key value to be $59 but it won't let me change anything. Thanks, I know this is a simple one, but I'm and idiot

14 July 2009, 05:22	#4
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,453	Edit: select no, i assume this is a text editor message? Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 14 July 2009 at 05:32.

15 July 2009, 05:27	#10
cleland909 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: United States Posts: 22	Thank you so much Retro-Nerd, it works indeed. If only the world operated like the EAB community, all problems would be solved almost instantly. Thanks again for the user support. Last edited by cleland909; 15 July 2009 at 06:40.

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14 July 2009, 05:03	#2
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,453	Click mouse right -> Workbench -> Startup -> WHDLoad -> WHDLoad Prefs. Then you can edit the whdload.prefs file with Quitkey=$59. Don't forget to save the edit.

14 July 2009, 05:17	#3
cleland909 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: United States Posts: 22	Awesome, Thanks Retro-Nerd! Now it asks for Tabs=Spaces??? Do I select yes or no?

14 July 2009, 10:28	#5
Kyon Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SOS Brigade Age: 33 Posts: 696	very good info for me because print screen quit not working on me thanks retro

14 July 2009, 15:47	#6
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,453	Print Screen = "*" on the PC or real Amiga numpad.

14 July 2009, 20:47	#7
Kyon Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SOS Brigade Age: 33 Posts: 696	yeah its worked

15 July 2009, 03:44	#8
cleland909 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: United States Posts: 22	Hmmm. It still does not work for me. I did edit the file and save, but when I launch say Defender of the Crown it still says "PrtSc" to quit. I pressed "F10" anyway but no response. Looked at the whdload.prefs file and it did say: ;QuitKey=$59 on the line, am I missing something?

15 July 2009, 04:01	#9
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,453	Remove the ";" and then it works.

19 October 2009, 04:59	#11
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,647	I tried $2b, which is supposed to be the "blank" key next to the Return key, but it doesn't work. Is there a special keycode map (with which ones that are available) for WHDload? Cos I used the value in HRM. I'm using WHDload on an A600.

19 October 2009, 05:51	#12
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,647	Never mind, the key between left shift and Z worked ($30)!

19 October 2009, 09:21	#13
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,432	Quite a lot of WHDload titles cannot quit back to Workbench though when on a 68000 CPU.

22 October 2009, 12:13	#14
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,647	Weird. What's the reason one can return to WB from a 68000 based game only if one has a 68020 or higher?

22 October 2009, 12:57	#16
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,647	Patched for WHDload, or patched for each slave with this small (grr) glitch?

22 October 2009, 12:59	#17
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	The code needs to be changed for each slave that doesn't quit on an 68000. I have no idea how many there are but from what I've read it's not that tricky to fix, it'd just take time to do them all.

22 October 2009, 13:39	#19
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,647	Stingray, don't be like that. I ofc meant if the slaves in question can all be patched with a change in WHDload core. ;D

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