[AmigaCD] T-zer0 - .HDF & .LHA (for real Amiga users)

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Originally Posted by PARALAX

See attachment. Can't use "endcli" after using "loadwb". And "add setpach" are unknown commands under CLI.

If you have a standard system you must have the commands in Directory C, see the attached video.

[PARALAX]

I meanwhile get it worked but only from CLI shell and without trainer. The Batch file is only executable from workbench. The game seems to need 1,8 MB chip ram which I don't get with trainer and outside from CLI.

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Originally Posted by PARALAX

I meanwhile get it worked but only from CLI shell and without trainer. The Batch file is only executable from workbench. The game seems to need 1,8 MB chip ram which I don't get with trainer and outside from CLI.

File Batch you can run it from Shell with the command "Execute"

Make a test with your configuration see video!

[PARALAX]

I could get it work with the no-startup sequence method as well at least from CLI with the "execute t-zero" command but it's very unconvenient in my eyes, even because "y" and "z" are then reverted on german keyboards.

Reducing the number of colours from 256 to 8 also seems to work and is more comfortable, even when just using instead of saving it. The game needs more than 1,85 MB finally.

Thanks anyway!

[AMIGASYSTEM]

You could create scripts and start the game directly or different start Workbench how's that which I used on my old CD32, see video:

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[idrougge]

Indeed T-Zer0 requires lots of chip RAM, and as far as I remember, it came with a script that would reboot the Amiga and run the game without a startup-sequence to free up as much RAM as possible.

[DamienD]

Sorry to hear that you're having issues PARALAX

...as others have said though (and you've discovered) you do need a lot of free Chip RAM unfortunately.

I tested the .LHA archive using WinUAE and a fresh install of "Classic WB 3.1 Lite". There is 1,981,536 bytes free here:



I wonder what it is on your system that's eating the Chip RAM?

Saying that though, booting with no startup-sequence and then typing the following should work before starting the trainer / game:

SetPatch quiet
Assign Env: Ram:
LoadWB
EndCLI

Originally Posted by idrougge

Indeed T-Zer0 requires lots of chip RAM, and as far as I remember, it came with a script that would reboot the Amiga and run the game without a startup-sequence to free up as much RAM as possible.

Well then, your mind / memory must be playing tricks on you.

There is no such script on the original CD-ROM or the v1.01 - CD audio patch update...

I have seen something like what you describe with other games though; "Super Street Fighter II Turbo [AGA]" for example.

[Amiga1992]

Things that eat Chip RAM:
- Not using FBlit if you have FastRAM and an accelerator
- Every single window and icon displayed on WB Will eat up RAM and if you don't use FBlit that RAM will be Chip RAM.
- Large color count on WB (use less colors)
- Each partition and drive you have on the system will eat up some RAM, how much depends on the filesystem. If you have Fast RAM this will be used instead , but if you don't, then Chip RAM it is.

So yeah not surprised you don't have enough RAM if you have a 256 color WB, try cutting that down to begin with, and installing FBlit if you haven't .

[DamienD]

@PARALAX; you could also make a script that you run straight after "Boot With No Startup-Sequence".

Call it "T-Zer0" and store it in say the root of your hard drive for example, which has the following lines (no need to start Workbench):

setpatch quiet
assign env: ram:
cd spiele/t-zer0 (got this location from your screenshot; amend if you've changed)
execute t-zer0

Then all you need to type at the CLI is the following: execute T-Zer0

Edit: I've done this for you, see attached. Just extract the file from the archive to the root of your hard drive. All you need to type is "T-Zer0" (as I've set Script & Execute "protection bits" on the file).

Note to others: don't download this script; it's set up for the folder that PARALAX extracted the .LHA file into on his system... If you really need / want to use it as you suffer from not having enough Chip RAM, then make sure you amend accordingly...

[DrBong]

Originally Posted by PARALAX

The game seems to need 1,8 MB chip ram which I don't get with trainer and outside from CLI.

Originally Posted by PARALAX

I could get it work with the no-startup sequence method as well at least from CLI with the "execute t-zero" command but it's very unconvenient in my eyes, even because "y" and "z" are then reverted on german keyboards.

Reducing the number of colours from 256 to 8 also seems to work and is more comfortable, even when just using instead of saving it. The game needs more than 1,85 MB finally.

Originally Posted by idrougge

Indeed T-Zer0 requires lots of chip RAM, and as far as I remember, it came with a script that would reboot the Amiga and run the game without a startup-sequence to free up as much RAM as possible.

Close. You're thinking of Capital Punishment (V1.1 update only IIRC).

IMHO the idea behind it provides a much more elegant solution than messing around with CLI, scripts or WB colour prefs. These type of solutions have been around on Aminet for ages, and I have provided links to them in the HOL notes for the T-zer0 and Capital Punishment entries in recent weeks.

Some of the Aminet utilities actually provide custom game launchers (with reboot) for particular games like T-zer0, while others are simply generic and can be used to launch any game suffering from a shortage of chipram comfortably from Workbench. Below are just a few that I've successfully used in the past. Hopefully one of them will come in handy for those here having the same chipram problems with T-zer0 and other games as the OP above!

- Reboot-Start V4.2 (contains custom game launchers with reboot for T-zer0, Capital Punishment and a few others; has degrading abilities + forces games to use PAL/NTSC screenmodes also) [readme, download]

- Da Cool Booter V1.7 (generic game launcher with reboot + create custom game launchers) [Developer readme, Aminet readme, download]

- Da Cool Installer V1.7 (generic game launcher with reboot + create custom game launchers + a lot more) [readme, download]

EDIT: If anyone wants the *registered* version of Da Cool Installer, then let me know and I'll dig it out for you!

[PARALAX]

Thank you all guys for the effort, especially DamienD for the script.

[DamienD]

No problem at all

I presume now that the game & trainer from the .LHA archive I created are working on your system without issue when using this script?

To make it easier, you could always rename the script from "T-Zer0" to say "T0"; less to type.

[PARALAX]

It works but I prefer to decerase the number of colours in the workbench instead because it's the faster way for me.

[macce2]

How to get the CDDA audio tracks working ? Which CD file system should be used ? If I remember right, it doesn't work with CacheCDFS..

[lineacero]

Hello partners.
Someone could upload t-zero hdf.game
please

[DamienD]

Hey there lineacero,

Welcome to EAB

All files I created are on the EAB File Server under ~Uploads/DamienD

... HDFs - for emulator users.
... LHAs - for real Amiga users.

[normanx9]

Hello

how to have the game in lha and hdf?
~ Uploads / DamienD does not exist

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by normanx9

Hello

how to have the game in lha and hdf?
~ Uploads / DamienD does not exist

Heya normanx9,

Welcome to EAB

I deleted my ~Uploads folder back when the Amiga File Server cleanup occurred in June last year.

Anyway, I've reuploaded somewhere and sent you a PM

Please let me know once you've download as I need the space...

[normanx9]

Thank you DamienD

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by normanx9

Thank you DamienD

You're welcome normanx9, enjoy

I assume you've downloaded now, so can I remove the archive from the hosting site?