How can I force DMS to write a dms in spite of fatal errors? - Page 2

shd · 09 January 2007, 22:02

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Originally Posted by andreas

As shd hasn't answered for ages, I did it myself

Using DJGPP and the excellent RHIDE, I managed to compile a win32 version of xDMS 1.3.2 today!

Since 2006-08-17 it has been possible to compile it for Windows using MinGW. See the CVS repository. MingW compiled programs are native Windows programs that do not need any special libraries.

BippyM · 09 January 2007, 22:15

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Originally Posted by andreas

If anyone wants it too, gimme a shout

I'm shouting

andreas · 09 January 2007, 22:24

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Originally Posted by shd

Since 2006-08-17 it has been possible to compile it for Windows using MinGW. See the CVS repository. MingW compiled programs are native Windows programs that do not need any special libraries.

Ah there you are!

So you are ... but can't be arsed to answer my e-mail with the bug report I sent on 17 August 2006, can you?

I'm known to be fairly patient, but half a year is even putting my patience at risk

Well if MingW is able to compile the thing and get it down to less than ~ 175K size, let me know!

I'm at 178,901 bytes now with a bit of optimizing - almost twice the size of the 1.3 version!
Please replace your cdata.h with mine, as unless you're using MingW, dos/win32 does not know about Uxxxx types!

Lastly, there's nothing that keeps you from putting this mingW win32 build on your site. It will certainly not cause your server capacity to be exhausted

shd · 09 January 2007, 22:41

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Originally Posted by andreas

So you are ... but can't be arsed to answer my e-mail with the bug report I sent on 17 August 2006, can you?

I'm known to be fairly patient, but half a year is even putting my patience at risk

Maybe I forgot or planned to answer later. I don't remember which.

Anyway, I haven't done anything else for xdms, just look at ChangeLog at CVS.

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Well if MingW is able to compile the thing and get it down to less than ~ 175K size, let me know!

I'm at 178,901 bytes now with a bit of optimizing - almost twice the size of the 1.3 version!

Size isn't important. It's 33 KiB on my amd64 GNU/Linux.

shd · 09 January 2007, 22:46

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Originally Posted by andreas

size of the 1.3 version!
Please replace your cdata.h with mine, as unless you're using MingW, dos/win32 does not know about Uxxxx types!

What kind of devel environment is it? Do you compile by running ./configure script first, or something else? If you use the configure script, what does "uname -a" and "uname" say on your system?

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Lastly, there's nothing that keeps you from putting this mingW win32 build on your site. It will certainly not cause your server capacity to be exhausted

Would you certify those compiled binaries with your name and email address? I couldn't build those.

andreas · 09 January 2007, 22:53

Did I get you wrong?

You gave me the impression that I will get a win32 executable by accessing CVS. But apparently I won't...

So don't you have any Windows machine at all?
If so, I'd understand.

About .configure:

Again, I'm on NATIVE Windows, that is, I'm working without Cygwin!
Nor am I working with MingW. So there is no ".configure"!
I gave you a link above so you get a clue what DJGPP is (resembling classic Borland Turbo C/C++ product line), and I used a project file, adding the required files to the project, just as I would do it in MSVC.

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Size isn't important. It's 33 KiB on my amd64 GNU/Linux.

Well, please read carefully.
I do not care about the size of the linux version. It's about the size of the win32 version. Forget about your linux world for one second. Please. At least try it. There is NOT only linux.

People would convert their DMS images from older CDs mainly on Windows, less probably Linux, so it would be about time (!) that this aeons-old version on Aminet gets replaced by a recent one eventually!

thor · 09 January 2007, 23:00

andreas: install MinGW and MSYS and you can use ./configure and be able to build a native Win32 xdms.exe. File size is 56442 bytes.

andreas · 09 January 2007, 23:07

Well, do you have it installed?
So you do it, and up it to Aminet!

I'm no "publicity whore", so if someone else does it, it'll be fine!

Hence the hard-to-overlook announcement "UNOFFICIAL" in the zone...I had some impression that the build appeared a bit big...

thor · 09 January 2007, 23:17

Upped my MinGW build of the latest CVS sources to the zone. Do want you want with it.

andreas · 09 January 2007, 23:20

thanks man!

As I have not done it myself, I can't upload it to Aminet...so why don't you do it so people do no longer have to download the old 1999 version? Please do it - it is really worth it, believe me!

@all: thor's version is 1.3.3, note that!

thor · 09 January 2007, 23:34

It's 1.3.3 with that MinGW mkstemps fix. And as it's an unofficial build too, I will upload it to Aminet only if shd agrees

Edit: I see that the Aminet 1.3 version has binaries for Amiga and Linux too, so I don't know if it's a good idea to upload it without those

shd · 09 January 2007, 23:42

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Originally Posted by andreas

Did I get you wrong?

You gave me the impression that I will get a win32 executable by accessing CVS. But apparently I won't...

Did I? Obviously we will distribute binaries on the web page, if we get binaries from someone, but development happens in the version control system (CVS).

You didn't answer my question about distributing those binaries by your name. If we are going to distribute binaries on my web page, the builder should be a known person. A chain of trust is needed.

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So don't you have any Windows machine at all?
If so, I'd understand.

No. And even if I had the money to spend, I wouldn't pay Microsoft, so I won't use it.

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About .configure:

Again, I'm on NATIVE Windows, that is, I'm working without Cygwin!
Nor am I working with MingW. So there is no ".configure"!
I gave you a link above so you get a clue what DJGPP is (resembling classic Borland Turbo C/C++ product line), and I used a project file, adding the required files to the project, just as I would do it in MSVC.

Open source development needs build automation so it would possibly be nice to have some project file for DJGPP envnronment and distribute that with the source. Would you send me the project file?

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Well, please read carefully.
I do not care about the size of the linux version. It's about the size of the win32 version. Forget about your linux world for one second. Please. At least try it. There is NOT only linux.

Well, please read carefully. I do not care about the size of the windows version. It's about the size of the linux version. Forget about your windows world for one second. Please. At least try it. There is NOT only Windows.

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People would convert their DMS images from older CDs mainly on Windows, less probably Linux

Agreed.

thor · 09 January 2007, 23:43

'strip xdms.exe' makes it even smaller (32256 bytes)

shd · 09 January 2007, 23:44

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Originally Posted by thor

It's 1.3.3 with that MinGW mkstemps fix. And as it's an unofficial build too, I will upload it to Aminet only if shd agrees

You don't need my approval for this. This is an open source project; distributing binaries is permitted for anyone. Just upload the binary with your name, as I didn't build it.

thor · 09 January 2007, 23:55

I know, but I think good manners require asking even it isn't needed legally. But as I said, without at least the Amiga binaries I don't think it's a good idea to upload it to Aminet (which is mainly for Amiga and not for Win32 binaries

)

Replaced the larger xdms.exe with the stripped one in the zone

andreas · 10 January 2007, 00:07

good work!

shd · 10 January 2007, 00:17

I committed a patch into CVS that fixes datatypes on DJGPP environment. Thanks Andreas.

andreas · 10 January 2007, 00:22

Thanks ...
and here's the project file! Uses -Os in gcc to get the build a bit sized-down...also -march=i386 as we're on x86. (i586 will make the build bigger => pointless)

[edit] (removed, as it contains individual paths, gotta investigate this first)

shd · 10 January 2007, 00:25

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Originally Posted by andreas

Thanks ...
and here's the project file!

Where?

andreas · 10 January 2007, 00:27

above...
after ignoring my one report for months, I had no idea you could be so fast

10 January 2007, 00:22	#38
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Thanks ... and here's the project file! Uses -Os in gcc to get the build a bit sized-down...also -march=i386 as we're on x86. (i586 will make the build bigger => pointless) [edit] (removed, as it contains individual paths, gotta investigate this first) Last edited by andreas; 10 January 2007 at 00:50.

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09 January 2007, 23:00	#27
thor Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 899	andreas: install MinGW and MSYS and you can use ./configure and be able to build a native Win32 xdms.exe. File size is 56442 bytes.

09 January 2007, 23:07	#28
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Well, do you have it installed? So you do it, and up it to Aminet! I'm no "publicity whore", so if someone else does it, it'll be fine! Hence the hard-to-overlook announcement "UNOFFICIAL" in the zone...I had some impression that the build appeared a bit big...

09 January 2007, 23:17	#29
thor Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 899	Upped my MinGW build of the latest CVS sources to the zone. Do want you want with it.

09 January 2007, 23:20	#30
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	thanks man! As I have not done it myself, I can't upload it to Aminet...so why don't you do it so people do no longer have to download the old 1999 version? Please do it - it is really worth it, believe me! @all: thor's version is 1.3.3, note that!

09 January 2007, 23:34	#31
thor Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 899	It's 1.3.3 with that MinGW mkstemps fix. And as it's an unofficial build too, I will upload it to Aminet only if shd agrees Edit: I see that the Aminet 1.3 version has binaries for Amiga and Linux too, so I don't know if it's a good idea to upload it without those

09 January 2007, 23:43	#33
thor Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 899	'strip xdms.exe' makes it even smaller (32256 bytes)

09 January 2007, 23:55	#35
thor Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 899	I know, but I think good manners require asking even it isn't needed legally. But as I said, without at least the Amiga binaries I don't think it's a good idea to upload it to Aminet (which is mainly for Amiga and not for Win32 binaries ) Replaced the larger xdms.exe with the stripped one in the zone

10 January 2007, 00:07	#36
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	good work!

10 January 2007, 00:17	#37
shd Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tampere / Finland Age: 46 Posts: 21	I committed a patch into CVS that fixes datatypes on DJGPP environment. Thanks Andreas.

10 January 2007, 00:27	#40
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	above... after ignoring my one report for months, I had no idea you could be so fast

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