X86 Discussion - Page 14

nathanm1991 · 05 June 2019, 14:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glen M

Always interested in a bit of online gaming. Haven't played quake online for some years now.

The board you seen was the P4. The P3 is in a case now, I'm just struggling to find time for completing it. Torn between running my Voodoo 3 3000 in it or going for a geforce 2 mx. The geforce 2 would be faster but the Voodoo is more period correct and well its a voodoo

only 16 bit graphics though...

OOOOO Decisions

I honestly Couldn't pick between them they are both Equally Great cards, But for Functionality the Geforce would be the Way as like you say being Stuck with 16bit Graphics in Certain Scenarios would Suck!

Time is Precious, Spare Time on the other Hand is Rare

Nice Board anyhow it Caught my eye With the Gpu Frankensteining from the top of it

nathanm1991 · 05 June 2019, 14:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viceroy

Posted ;-)

Thank you Kind Sir

nathanm1991 · 05 June 2019, 14:59

Just To report this K8VSE Deluxe board just Absolutely Kicked my 98Se Setup's Arse in 3d Mark 2001SE more than Doubling it's Score! 12838 and mine only Scores 5062

This Machine will be up for sale once I have Installed a Soundcard so Pictures will be Due and if any Interest do let me Know :-)

Hewitson · 05 June 2019, 15:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by 005AGIMA

You could put a second NIC in a modern PC and use that as your proxy/firewall perhaps?

So the Win98 machine connects via ethernet to the modern PC, which in tern connects to the interwebs.

Or setup a dedicated Linux firewall. That's what my mate who works in cyber security for the banking sector does at home.

Or last option, and this is a VERY last resort......stop surfing for pron.

If you're behind a router there shouldn't be a need to have a software firewall. I'd personally just avoid using Internet Explorer and visiting any dodgy sites as any anti-virus software will slow the system down to a crawl.

Windows might be the most vulnerable OS known to mankind, but most issues with it are user error.

Glen M · 05 June 2019, 16:19

There is also the likely hood that modern virus etc won't even run on a windows 98 rig so perhaps it'll be fine no matter what router / firewall you are using.

nathanm1991 · 05 June 2019, 16:30

I will be trying it all out later on tonight so will let all know the outcome. See whether I'm successful in joining a quake III Server

nathanm1991 · 05 June 2019, 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glen M

Always interested in a bit of online gaming. Haven't played quake online for some years now.

The board you seen was the P4. The P3 is in a case now, I'm just struggling to find time for completing it. Torn between running my Voodoo 3 3000 in it or going for a geforce 2 mx. The geforce 2 would be faster but the Voodoo is more period correct and well its a voodoo

only 16 bit graphics though...

Viceroy has a Geforce 2 MX400 64MB AGP up For Sale on eBay :-)

nathanm1991 · 05 June 2019, 23:29

I seem to be online Successfully :-)

Mikerochip · 05 June 2019, 23:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glen M

its a voodoo

only 16 bit graphics though...

Not all 16 bit graphics are the same though.

A Voodoo 3 at 16 bit looks significantly better than a Geforce or anything else at 16 bit. Not as good as 32 bit obviously, but it did some sort of full screen filter thing that really improved video quality.

lesta_smsc · 06 June 2019, 00:30

Voodoo made the graphics of some games so beautiful! That textured smooth graphical rendering is something that put the cards into a league of their own at the time.

nathanm1991 · 06 June 2019, 01:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikerochip

Not all 16 bit graphics are the same though.

A Voodoo 3 at 16 bit looks significantly better than a Geforce or anything else at 16 bit. Not as good as 32 bit obviously, but it did some sort of full screen filter thing that really improved video quality.

Welcome

and yes I do Completely Agree with you on that Voodoo Were definitely in a League of their Own!

nathanm1991 · 06 June 2019, 01:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by lesta_smsc

Voodoo made the graphics of some games so beautiful! That textured smooth graphical rendering is something that put the cards into a league of their own at the time.

Lots of Games definitely take Advantage of this

nathanm1991 · 06 June 2019, 01:22

After a Patch on Quake III to Version 1.32 I was able to Find more than just One Server and have been Playing it on the 98SE all night

Glen M · 06 June 2019, 14:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikerochip

Not all 16 bit graphics are the same though.

A Voodoo 3 at 16 bit looks significantly better than a Geforce or anything else at 16 bit. Not as good as 32 bit obviously, but it did some sort of full screen filter thing that really improved video quality.

I think they called it 24 bit colour. Not sure exactly how it worked though. I've also been looking at the ATI cards of the day. Might just stick the voodoo in there for now anyway, just to get it up and running.

nathanm1991 · 07 June 2019, 10:29

Awe 64 Has Arrived safely :-)

nathanm1991 · 07 June 2019, 10:32

Am going to take a Trip to the Local Salvage yard today and see if I Can pick up a Computer to Rip a IDE Hard Drive, CD Rom and Floppy Drive from it Hopefully for the P3 Build :-)

Viceroy · 07 June 2019, 10:33

;-)

Viceroy · 07 June 2019, 10:33

I tossed loads of cream floppy drive and CD roms out!

nathanm1991 · 07 June 2019, 20:31

I Have had a Bit of Success with the P4SE Today regarding the AGP Gart Driver from Sis.

It Didn't like the Sis 7001 Usb Host Controllers so I Switched them to open Host Usb Controllers in Safe made, Rebooted and Hey Presto full AGP Bus now :-)

No luck with Regards to IDE Drives at the Salvage yard though All more Modern Sata but no IDE :-(

nathanm1991 · 07 June 2019, 20:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viceroy

I tossed loads of cream floppy drive and CD roms out!

Now that is a shame I would have Purchased Some

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05 June 2019, 14:59	#263
nathanm1991 Self Diagnosed Noob! Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Malvern, Worcestershire Age: 32 Posts: 704	Just To report this K8VSE Deluxe board just Absolutely Kicked my 98Se Setup's Arse in 3d Mark 2001SE more than Doubling it's Score! 12838 and mine only Scores 5062 This Machine will be up for sale once I have Installed a Soundcard so Pictures will be Due and if any Interest do let me Know :-)

05 June 2019, 16:19	#265
Glen M Registered User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Belfast Posts: 750	There is also the likely hood that modern virus etc won't even run on a windows 98 rig so perhaps it'll be fine no matter what router / firewall you are using.

05 June 2019, 16:30	#266
nathanm1991 Self Diagnosed Noob! Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Malvern, Worcestershire Age: 32 Posts: 704	I will be trying it all out later on tonight so will let all know the outcome. See whether I'm successful in joining a quake III Server

05 June 2019, 23:29	#268
nathanm1991 Self Diagnosed Noob! Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Malvern, Worcestershire Age: 32 Posts: 704	I seem to be online Successfully :-)

06 June 2019, 00:30	#270
lesta_smsc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,178	Voodoo made the graphics of some games so beautiful! That textured smooth graphical rendering is something that put the cards into a league of their own at the time.

06 June 2019, 01:22	#273
nathanm1991 Self Diagnosed Noob! Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Malvern, Worcestershire Age: 32 Posts: 704	After a Patch on Quake III to Version 1.32 I was able to Find more than just One Server and have been Playing it on the 98SE all night

07 June 2019, 10:29	#275
nathanm1991 Self Diagnosed Noob! Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Malvern, Worcestershire Age: 32 Posts: 704	Awe 64 Has Arrived safely :-)

07 June 2019, 10:32	#276
nathanm1991 Self Diagnosed Noob! Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Malvern, Worcestershire Age: 32 Posts: 704	Am going to take a Trip to the Local Salvage yard today and see if I Can pick up a Computer to Rip a IDE Hard Drive, CD Rom and Floppy Drive from it Hopefully for the P3 Build :-)

07 June 2019, 10:33	#277
Viceroy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sunderland Posts: 949	;-)

07 June 2019, 10:33	#278
Viceroy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sunderland Posts: 949	I tossed loads of cream floppy drive and CD roms out!

07 June 2019, 20:31	#279
nathanm1991 Self Diagnosed Noob! Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Malvern, Worcestershire Age: 32 Posts: 704	I Have had a Bit of Success with the P4SE Today regarding the AGP Gart Driver from Sis. It Didn't like the Sis 7001 Usb Host Controllers so I Switched them to open Host Usb Controllers in Safe made, Rebooted and Hey Presto full AGP Bus now :-) No luck with Regards to IDE Drives at the Salvage yard though All more Modern Sata but no IDE :-(

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