The Vampire II has had a GOLD3 core ALPHA released!

[Signman]

The power of the negative really is on display here. How many negative or rant posters are there for the Vampire threads? Five , seven? Out of that some of their comments are valid and need addressing but after that usually nothing but positive or general questions.

What business or enterprise wouldn't envy those numbers. Check any Amazon review and how many one star reviews are present on any product.

I have a Surface Pro 3 from Microsoft that I would like to shove up ......

[demolition]

Originally Posted by majsta

eventually, 10 000 Apollo core users.

The way I see it, Apollo is very high end and not something your average Amiga retro gamer would need. They would be better off with some cheaper regular accelerator like an 020/030, so reaching 1000 Apollo users is extremely impressive which is a statement that the total Amiga user base must be very large indeed. I would think there should be at least 10 general Amiga users for every Vampire user.

If Apollo ever reached 10.000 users (not sure if that would be Amiga only or also include other platforms like Atari, Mac and other 68k platforms), then I would consider Apollo to be responsible for the revival of the Amiga as a viable platform, much more so than OS4/PPC/etc.

Originally Posted by Signman

What business or enterprise wouldn't envy those numbers. Check any Amazon review and how many one star reviews are present on any product.

Isn't it generally said that for every one negative review, there are somewhere between 10-100 satisfied customers? People are much more likely to actively post a comment if they have a negative experience.

[ronybeck]

I like the idea of having an AGA powered A600 with the grunt of a 68080. The price to performance ratio is far more attractive than an 060 powered A1200. I haven't had the chance to try the alpha core yet on my A600 but I was at Classic Computing 2018 and was able to play with it on an A500. It looks quite far along.

To be able to play AGA games on my A600 is really a nice touch.

[Prosonic]

vamp would be the best purchase ive made for my amigas in the last 20 years thanks team

[Gorf]

Originally Posted by demolition

The way I see it, Apollo is very high end and not something your average Amiga retro gamer would need. They would be better off with some cheaper regular accelerator like an 020/030,

true.
While Apollo/Vampire is quite impressive and I would put one in my A3000 if it was supported it has a conceptional problem:
It does not bring too many advantages for retro gamers ... and if you are no hardware purist WinUAE gives you a almost perfect experience.

Even speedwise WinUAE is faster than a Vampire ... mostly.

On the other hand the Vampire is still not fast and powerful enough to be used for any modern applications.
To be a real game-changer a ASIC version is needed. Something like the Raspberry Pi in 68k. If a stand-alone version could reach the power of one of these ARM boards it would sell also in these numbers.

[ronybeck]

Originally Posted by Prosonic

vamp would be the best purchase ive made for my amigas in the last 20 years thanks team

I couldn't agree more. Super fast CPU and RTG to boot. The price is a bargain considering what 060 accelerators go for on EBay now. There really isn't any accelerator for the A500 or A600 that brings that much punch (or RTG?). An awesome bit of kit.

[nexus]

since it does everything why do you even need the amiga?
cool looking and expensive keyboard?

[E-Penguin]

I've spent a lot more getting a workable RTG solution for my A500 and it's not as fast:

ACA500plus €130
ACA1221 + upgrades €150
IndivisionECS €100
512k + MegAChip 2Mb €100
Z-500 zorro2 adaptor €30
Matze RTG €250

It's great and I love it but I'd get a quicker Amiga with more RAM and an RTG card capable of higher resolutions and AGA eventually for 1/2 as much with a vampire.

[majsta]

@nexus you did read topic title right? This is for Vampire V2, that is not standalone card and can't work without Amiga.

[nexus]

that doesnt change what i said
funny thing is no one ever thinks about the bad with stuff like this
you are letting some garage based people selling you a closed source FPGA with god knows what inside your home network
just sayin data breaches happen everyday due to shit like this

[majsta]

Yes, that's true. I think that people should never buy Vampire cards. They might took over control from kitchen sink and spend water till everyone sleeps.

[Gorf]

Originally Posted by majsta

@nexus you did read topic title right? This is for Vampire V2, that is not standalone card and can't work without Amiga.

Yes. It is about a version, that incorporates the chipset functionality within the FPGA. So Nexus is not so wrong: the rest of the old hardware only provides power and keyboard (and floppy and some IO, which is rarely used)

There is nothing wrong with that as it is the next logical step towards the standalone version, right?

[Dunny]

Originally Posted by nexus

since it does everything why do you even need the amiga?
cool looking and expensive keyboard?

I fully intend, once a standalone version is out, to junk my A1200 mobo in the landfill and hook up one of these bad boys instead.

[nexus]

Originally Posted by majsta

Yes, that's true. I think that people should never buy Vampire cards. They might took over control from kitchen sink and spend water till everyone sleeps.

thats the type of comment and joking i expect from someone with something to hide

this is about peoples personal whole life i dont find it funny
you cant be stupid like that today

[Mr.Flibble]

Originally Posted by nexus

funny thing is no one ever thinks about the bad with stuff like this
you are letting some garage based people selling you a closed source FPGA with god knows what inside your home network

Same thing is possible with just about any bit of consumer hardware out there which connects to a network in some way, the vast majority of it is closed source.


Don't trust it? Don't connect it to your network.

[majsta]

Again we are getting back to FPGA basics and core revisions. You don't want FPU on Amiga600 use Gold2.5 core. You don't want AGA, don't use GOLD3 core. You don't want video out, don't use it. Trick with Vampire card is that unites everything. It can be simple memory expansion using original onboard CPU or advanced device. You chose by selecting core revisions.

Edit:
@nexus I m not joking. I m serious as you are.

[Mr.Flibble]

Originally Posted by Dunny

I fully intend, once a standalone version is out, to junk my A1200 mobo in the landfill and hook up one of these bad boys instead.

Sell it on ebay/amibay chap, you'll get a very good price.

[pcotter]

Originally Posted by Gorf

Even speedwise WinUAE is faster than a Vampire ... mostly.

Disable the JIT and we can talk again.

Seems pretty fast to me...
https://www.ppa.pl/forum/strefa-twor...iga/32#m609895

Originally Posted by nexus

that doesnt change what i said
funny thing is no one ever thinks about the bad with stuff like this
you are letting some garage based people selling you a closed source FPGA with god knows what inside your home network
just sayin data breaches happen everyday due to shit like this

Now you’re making me worried!!!!

[UberFreak]

Conspiracy theories about garage people stealing your data in an Amiga forum!
I thought I've seen it all

I hoped that once the a.org forum reopened all the trolls will go back there, but unfortunately not...

[Gorf]

Originally Posted by pcotter

Disable the JIT and we can talk again.

Why? It is there and it works very well.
If I need speed, the JIT provides it.
If I need cycle exact emulation: UAE can do that as well.
(and even Vampire has a turtle mode for that....)