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Linux has no stable ABI since it was designed to run open source software only. Android uses a layer of compatibility over the top of the Linux kernel for that reason.
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06 May 2015, 17:33 | #182 |
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That doesn't help with bugs in abandoned software though. Much Android software runs on a virtual machine anyway right ? I believe I've still seen cases where code doesn't work on x86 android as only arm binaries were available (When fiddling with Android on the o2 Joggler).
An open source library is far more useful to me than a closed source one. But this is just going in circles anyway. People can carry on using closed source. I'll carry on using open. Everyone's happy. The Amiga situation is unlikely to change - Amiga users are stuck in their ways If this thread helps a few people try a different model with their development - or release their unmaintained old Amiga code, then something good has happened (imho). [ps - apologies for changing this post after originally posting - I've spent too much time on wikis, and keep finding improvements] Last edited by BuZz; 06 May 2015 at 17:50. |
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I know, i shouldn't do this, but it's funny:
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http://google.co.uk/search?q=why+not+use+open+source And this resulted in roughly 575 million hits. Teh internet haz decided. (Sorry, couldn't miss the joke.) Last edited by TCH; 06 May 2015 at 20:18. Reason: url show |
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06 May 2015, 21:42 | #184 |
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06 May 2015, 23:43 | #187 |
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in the current commercial project i'm working on, we use a number of different open source libraries. it is very fortunate for us that we don't have to write everything ourselves or we would get nowhere fast. one of our libraries *used* to be closed source but it stopped being maintained so we switched it for an open source alternative. and it is just as well some of them are open source because i have actually had to fix some bugs in our dependencies.
Also we were investigating another closed-source library, only the closed-source libraries often tend to be Windows-only and we are aiming at multi-platform in the long term (perhaps Linux, which i'm currently using to develop it, but definitely Mac). Of course anyone who uses C++ already uses Standard Library! The code i'm working on was originally written by people of less experience, and they had really not taken as much advantage of Standard Library as they could have. If it seems like something a lot of people might want to do, there is probably an algorithm or data structure for it there already! |
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I'm also agreeing with a lot of the experience of Mrs Beanbag. +1
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Bumping to post the bittersweet news that NovaCoder is leaving the Amiga scene...
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=444 ...But kindly open sourcing his projects! |
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i might open source a few things... PuzCat is open source. PuzCat 2 will also be open source. PuzCat from now on is an open source brand!
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Wow, that was a slog through some pretty crazy reading! I find it sad that there are so many misconceptions on what open source is.
First, I recommend reading this: http://www.catb.org/esr/writings/cat...hedral-bazaar/ Conveniently, you can read it all online, or pay O'Reilly for the ability to get it on dead trees. Secondly, I recommend reading how version control works. There also seem to be massive misunderstandings about that as well. Here is a decent summary as well as some follow-on material: http://oss-watch.ac.uk/resources/versioncontrol |
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My thoughts on this thread are that if there is something you want source for, then you have several options:
The simplest and most achievable way to get the source released, is the paying option. The easiest way to go about trying to get source released, is the begging option. And the way that rewards hard work, like the rest of life, is the doing option. Mostly, open source is about getting someone else's hard work for nothing. |
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Also, Eric Raymond regrets nothing about the Cathedral and the Bazaar. In fact, it was written when he wasn't quite as bats**t insane as he is today: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Eric_S._Raymond Just because he went cuckoo-bird after 9/11 doesn't mean what's written in that book isn't a good primer on free software and/or open source. That's the problem with not being able to separate the person from the design concept. Lots of people still seem to use reiserFs and wouldn't dismiss its technical merits because Hans Reiser was involved. (just in case you don't know anything about Hans, he murdered his wife, buried her in the hills and is serving 15 to life for second degree murder, pled down from first on the condition that he show the court where he hid her body.) As for the mountains of complexity that is supposedly open source software, perhaps this will help you: http://bfy.tw/8oK and http://bfy.tw/8oM If you don't like my choices, please read some supplied by the above google searches. |
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Granted, there are some open-source projects out there (Ex Plus Alpha nee *.emu comes to mind readily) that are "open" but nearly (if not) all contributions from others are ignored or outright rejected, but I do not believe they represent the spirit or common state of open source. Rodney |
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03 June 2015, 06:32 | #197 |
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I think our project wouldn't be as far, without opened source, donated source and collaboration...
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Here's the thing about version control and source code - YOU STILL CONTROL THE MASTER BRANCH. It doesn't freaking matter what Billy DickSprite does with a fork of the master. This is seriously version control 101. Is it really this complicated for people? That you cannot take two minutes to read "what is version control and how does it work"? I feel like Mugatu right now: |
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