Amiga Explorer transfer probs

T_hairy_bootson · 02 November 2003, 01:55

Hi all,

I am currently transfering some ADF's to Floppy using a null-modem cable, Amiga Explorer and WB1.3.

Some of the disks are getting to 100% and then I'm getting a Checksum error.

Is this because the games are non-dos disks??

Examples of games that won't transfer are Sensible Soccer and Speedball 2. I have tried multiple versions of these games.

Is there any other way to transfer the ADF's to Amiga using my current setup? (A1000, 1meg, KS1.3, null-modem)

Unknown_K · 02 November 2003, 02:45

Quote:

Originally posted by T_hairy_bootson
Hi all,

I am currently transfering some ADF's to Floppy using a null-modem cable, Amiga Explorer and WB1.3.

Some of the disks are getting to 100% and then I'm getting a Checksum error.

Is this because the games are non-dos disks??

Examples of games that won't transfer are Sensible Soccer and Speedball 2. I have tried multiple versions of these games.

Is there any other way to transfer the ADF's to Amiga using my current setup? (A1000, 1meg, KS1.3, null-modem)

I transfered dozens of disks from a pc to an A500 1mb using amiga explorer (4.0 maybe) with no problems whatsoever on a null modem cable. Are you sure the baud rate is set correctly on both machines? Amiga explorer just formats and dumps the data directly to floppy as you go so its not storing the image in memory or anything.

T_hairy_bootson · 02 November 2003, 03:00

Quote:

Originally posted by Unknown_K
I transfered dozens of disks from a pc to an A500 1mb using amiga explorer (4.0 maybe) with no problems whatsoever on a null modem cable. Are you sure the baud rate is set correctly on both machines? Amiga explorer just formats and dumps the data directly to floppy as you go so its not storing the image in memory or anything.

I have already transferred many games that have worked perfectly. there are just a few that seem not to work (see above examples)

The baud rate is set to 19200 on WB and AExplorer and I'm also using version 4.

The only thing I can think of is maybe some of the High Density disks are incompatible (most are fine). I will format one of my Double Density disks and give it a try.

Unknown_K · 02 November 2003, 03:04

High density disks dont work well or at all, you need double density floppies, thats what your problem is. (the magnetic coating is completely different between the 2).

T_hairy_bootson · 02 November 2003, 03:18

I have already had a 100% success rate with a certain brand of cheap High Density Disks (Office works, Office one for anyone in Australia).

Its just Ive run out of those and am dipping into my old PC disks.

Oh well just gave turrican 2 a try on a DD disk and same prob

[Error valiadating disk]
[Key 880 Checksum Error]

Unknown_K · 02 November 2003, 03:21

I dont have my computers setup at the moment to try it myself. The problem with HD disks is that they lose the data almost immediatly so a disk that works when you make it doesnt in a week or 2.

T_hairy_bootson · 02 November 2003, 04:15

Just tried some of those ADF's I'm having probs with in WINUAE with WB and the same Checksum prob popped up.

It's funny how they will boot in WINUAE but not on my AMIGA.

I'm starting to think non-dos ADF's cannot be transferred with Amiga Explorer, which sucks because alot of cool games are non-dos.

I'm using AExplorer 5 now with the same prob.

I'm open to any suggestions at this point.

02 November 2003, 04:27

I've never used Amiga Forever before, so I can't give any tips on its usage. However, when I transfer files between my PC and Amiga, I always use NComm on the Amiga side and HyperTerminal on the PC.
What I'm basically saying is, all you need is a terminal program on each side. Get them to communicate and you're set. AFAIK, NComm works on Kickstart 1.3. It's freely available on Aminet

If you don't want to use the terminal method, the only other piece of advice I can give is to transfer at the slowest speed possible and see if that makes a difference.

andreas · 02 November 2003, 09:49

Quote:

Originally posted by T_hairy_bootson
Oh well just gave turrican 2 a try on a DD disk and same prob

[Error valiadating disk]
[Key 880 Checksum Error]

Quote:

Some of the disks are getting to 100% and then I'm getting a Checksum error.

Is this because the games are non-dos disks??

YES!!

Reboot, and THESE DISKS DO WORK on your Miggy!

99.9% probability!

"Key 880 Checksum Error" usually means that the disk has a track loader or sort of thing. Only natural that WB complains!

T_hairy_bootson · 02 November 2003, 10:16

Quote:

Originally posted by andreas
YES!!
Reboot, and THESE DISKS DO WORK on your Miggy!

99.9% probability!

"Key 880 Checksum Error" usually means that the disk has a track loader or sort of thing. Only natural that WB complains!

Yeah I tried restarting
lucky me I guess, to be in that .1%

If someone who uses AExplorer could try transferring Speedball 2 directly to an Amiga floppy, I'd be interested to hear how it turns out.

Matfink · 02 November 2003, 12:56

hi T....

well i've been using amiga explorer 4.1 to transfer loads of games - including Speedball 2 - with absolutely no problems. the problem certainly isn't that the games are non-dos, as most of the .adf's i've transferred aren't dos either. sorry pal, that's all i can give you, i can't think what's going wrong for you...have you tried downloaded a fresh .adf image of speedball 2 and transferring that?

adolescent · 02 November 2003, 13:27

Do you have the ADF verify option turned on? I don't have the help file handy but it might help.

T_hairy_bootson · 02 November 2003, 14:01

Quote:

Originally posted by Matfink
hi T....

well i've been using amiga explorer 4.1 to transfer loads of games - including Speedball 2 - with absolutely no problems

Thanks Matfink, will try some more versions

Quote:

Originally posted by adolescent
Do you have the ADF verify option turned on? I don't have the help file handy but it might help.

found the ADFVerify option and set it to NO. Same problem.

T_hairy_bootson · 04 November 2003, 03:49

ok this is seriously weird

I re transferred one of the n-dos disks back to my PC and sent it to a friend with a hex editor to compare against the orig adf.

He said the bootblock is being re-written with a normal install version and that this is the prob.

anyone have any ideas why this is happening?

T_hairy_bootson · 04 November 2003, 12:41

Problem solved

I found a program called Tracktool.

Some info I found on the net said ADF2Disk and simillar programs had probs with N-DOS adf files and to use Tracktool.

I copy the ADF to ram first and then use tracktool to write the disk.

I am now playing Speedball2, Sensible soccer and Turrican 2 on my Amiga

THX1138 · 11 November 2003, 21:58

is this post in the right section ??

killergorilla · 12 November 2003, 02:38

Maybe

lesta_smsc · 01 March 2015, 19:58

Sorry to revive a very old thread... but I am getting the same error on the current set up:

Amiga 500. KS 1.3. 1MB total RAM (512k internal + 512k trapdoor). Latest AF.

However:
It only appears to be the case when I am running without loading into WB 1.3 (I've changed startup-sequence as per AF instructions to allow quicker loading). Nonetheless, the disks are currently working fine, so I gather the checksum error is of no significance?

EDIT: Following reading more about this online, it appears to be an issue with NDOS disks. Tracktool by our very own Codetapper has been recommended as an alternative, with the bonus that it works on WB 1.3! (I wish that DiskWiz worked on 1.3 lol, that way I could transfer ADZ!)

02 November 2003, 01:55	#1
T_hairy_bootson Workbitch 1.3 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 47 Posts: 2,084	Amiga Explorer transfer probs Hi all, I am currently transfering some ADF's to Floppy using a null-modem cable, Amiga Explorer and WB1.3. Some of the disks are getting to 100% and then I'm getting a Checksum error. Is this because the games are non-dos disks?? Examples of games that won't transfer are Sensible Soccer and Speedball 2. I have tried multiple versions of these games. Is there any other way to transfer the ADF's to Amiga using my current setup? (A1000, 1meg, KS1.3, null-modem)

01 March 2015, 19:58	#18
lesta_smsc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,178	Sorry to revive a very old thread... but I am getting the same error on the current set up: Amiga 500. KS 1.3. 1MB total RAM (512k internal + 512k trapdoor). Latest AF. However: It only appears to be the case when I am running without loading into WB 1.3 (I've changed startup-sequence as per AF instructions to allow quicker loading). Nonetheless, the disks are currently working fine, so I gather the checksum error is of no significance? EDIT: Following reading more about this online, it appears to be an issue with NDOS disks. Tracktool by our very own Codetapper has been recommended as an alternative, with the bonus that it works on WB 1.3! (I wish that DiskWiz worked on 1.3 lol, that way I could transfer ADZ!) Last edited by lesta_smsc; 01 March 2015 at 20:25.

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02 November 2003, 03:04	#4
Unknown_K Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio/USA Age: 55 Posts: 1,380	High density disks dont work well or at all, you need double density floppies, thats what your problem is. (the magnetic coating is completely different between the 2).

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T_hairy_bootson Workbitch 1.3 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 47 Posts: 2,084	I have already had a 100% success rate with a certain brand of cheap High Density Disks (Office works, Office one for anyone in Australia). Its just Ive run out of those and am dipping into my old PC disks. Oh well just gave turrican 2 a try on a DD disk and same prob [Error valiadating disk] [Key 880 Checksum Error]

02 November 2003, 03:21	#6
Unknown_K Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio/USA Age: 55 Posts: 1,380	I dont have my computers setup at the moment to try it myself. The problem with HD disks is that they lose the data almost immediatly so a disk that works when you make it doesnt in a week or 2.

02 November 2003, 04:15	#7
T_hairy_bootson Workbitch 1.3 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 47 Posts: 2,084	Just tried some of those ADF's I'm having probs with in WINUAE with WB and the same Checksum prob popped up. It's funny how they will boot in WINUAE but not on my AMIGA. I'm starting to think non-dos ADF's cannot be transferred with Amiga Explorer, which sucks because alot of cool games are non-dos. I'm using AExplorer 5 now with the same prob. I'm open to any suggestions at this point.

02 November 2003, 04:27	#8
Amigaboy Posts: n/a	I've never used Amiga Forever before, so I can't give any tips on its usage. However, when I transfer files between my PC and Amiga, I always use NComm on the Amiga side and HyperTerminal on the PC. What I'm basically saying is, all you need is a terminal program on each side. Get them to communicate and you're set. AFAIK, NComm works on Kickstart 1.3. It's freely available on Aminet If you don't want to use the terminal method, the only other piece of advice I can give is to transfer at the slowest speed possible and see if that makes a difference.

02 November 2003, 12:56	#11
Matfink Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Whitstable, UK Age: 45 Posts: 39	hi T.... well i've been using amiga explorer 4.1 to transfer loads of games - including Speedball 2 - with absolutely no problems. the problem certainly isn't that the games are non-dos, as most of the .adf's i've transferred aren't dos either. sorry pal, that's all i can give you, i can't think what's going wrong for you...have you tried downloaded a fresh .adf image of speedball 2 and transferring that?

02 November 2003, 13:27	#12
adolescent Powered by Motorola Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Age: 52 Posts: 1,065	Do you have the ADF verify option turned on? I don't have the help file handy but it might help.

04 November 2003, 03:49	#14
T_hairy_bootson Workbitch 1.3 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 47 Posts: 2,084	ok this is seriously weird I re transferred one of the n-dos disks back to my PC and sent it to a friend with a hex editor to compare against the orig adf. He said the bootblock is being re-written with a normal install version and that this is the prob. anyone have any ideas why this is happening?

04 November 2003, 12:41	#15
T_hairy_bootson Workbitch 1.3 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 47 Posts: 2,084	Problem solved I found a program called Tracktool. Some info I found on the net said ADF2Disk and simillar programs had probs with N-DOS adf files and to use Tracktool. I copy the ADF to ram first and then use tracktool to write the disk. I am now playing Speedball2, Sensible soccer and Turrican 2 on my Amiga

11 November 2003, 21:58	#16
THX1138 Amiga Centurai Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 526	is this post in the right section ??

12 November 2003, 02:38	#17
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Maybe

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