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Amicol 17 February 2014 22:20

Amiga 1200, Virtual Memory?
 
I have an Amiga 1200 & Apollo 1260 (32mb RAM)

As it is a desktop, I cannot fit another 32mb SIMM and I will not towerize it...

As some demos and games (Quake II) require 64mb, I was wondering if virtual memory was a possibility? :confused

Mrs Beanbag 17 February 2014 22:28

not without using the MMU, which AmigaDOS doesn't.

Amicol 17 February 2014 22:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs Beanbag (Post 938560)
not without using the MMU, which AmigaDOS doesn't.

My Apollo has an MMU & FPU. Can this be used?

Bamiga2002 17 February 2014 22:35

Krhm... VMM
Dunno how usable it is, haven't tested it myself.

Amicol 17 February 2014 22:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bamiga2002 (Post 938562)
Krhm... VMM
Dunno how usable it is, haven't tested it myself.

Ooooo I'll give this a try :)
Cheers bud

Bamiga2002 17 February 2014 22:40

:) there's also GigaMem 3, look in EAB ftp.

Amicol 18 February 2014 02:48

I couldn't get them to work, oh well.... :crying

NovaCoder 18 February 2014 05:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amicol (Post 938558)
I have an Amiga 1200 & Apollo 1260 (32mb RAM)

As it is a desktop, I cannot fit another 32mb SIMM and I will not towerize it...

A certain Polish Wizard can solder a 'flat' SIMM socket on for you, that way you can use 64MB in a Desktop case :)

Hewitson 18 February 2014 08:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaCoder (Post 938630)
A certain Polish Wizard can solder a 'flat' SIMM socket on for you, that way you can use 64MB in a Desktop case :)

Really? Any idea where to get the sockets? I'm assuming the trapdoor would bulge quite a bit with one installed?

Amicol 18 February 2014 09:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaCoder (Post 938630)
A certain Polish Wizard can solder a 'flat' SIMM socket on for you, that way you can use 64MB in a Desktop case :)

I already sent him my knackerred Apollo to try and fix. Both my cards are socketed, so would need to be desoldered again and the CPU's soldered directly to the board, I think, for there to be enough space. I might ask him to do this for me sometime. I'm reluctant to leave my Apollo @ 80 in the hands of the post, they lost my precious GVP Simms :mad

Can some wizard alter the bios to accept 64mb Simms? That would be ideal! (Probably not as it would have been done already) :sad

NovaCoder 18 February 2014 11:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hewitson (Post 938638)
Really? Any idea where to get the sockets? I'm assuming the trapdoor would bulge quite a bit with one installed?

There were some pictures on AmiBay somewhere, sorry don't know any more details.

I'd have probably kept my Apollo 1260 if I'd know about that 64MB mod :agree

Reido 18 February 2014 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaCoder (Post 938630)
A certain Polish Wizard can solder a 'flat' SIMM socket on for you, that way you can use 64MB in a Desktop case :)

I got this done by said wizard! Very professional and impressive job!

CentralPerk 19 February 2014 05:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaCoder (Post 938630)
A certain Polish Wizard can solder a 'flat' SIMM socket on for you, that way you can use 64MB in a Desktop case :)

Rather than soldering a flat SIMM socket it's the SIMM itself which is soldered to the board using some "L" shaped pin array. Neat mod.

NovaCoder 19 February 2014 10:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by CentralPerk (Post 938808)
Rather than soldering a flat SIMM socket it's the SIMM itself which is soldered to the board using some "L" shaped pin array. Neat mod.

Cool, people have been trying to do this for ages and finally we have a solution :xmas

Hewitson 19 February 2014 11:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by CentralPerk (Post 938808)
Rather than soldering a flat SIMM socket it's the SIMM itself which is soldered to the board using some "L" shaped pin array. Neat mod.

I've seen that done. The only thing that bothers me is if the SIMM became faulty it would be an absolute nightmare to replace it. In fact it would possibly be easier to replace the faulty IC rather than the entire SIMM.

ShK 19 February 2014 11:14

Some images from stachu100:

https://picasaweb.google.com/1101219...DesktopProject

NovaCoder 19 February 2014 22:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShK (Post 938849)

That guy's got the skills :)

CentralPerk 20 February 2014 05:00

Regarding the 32MB limit per SIMM, it seems to be a hardware limitation (e.g.: not enough address lines on PCB), which can’t be by-passed by means of a BIOS update. May be some other knowledgeable user can explain this better than me.

ShK 20 February 2014 10:54

There was some time ago a bit of discussion about Apollo's memory:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=72049

CentralPerk 20 February 2014 15:24

@ShK: Thanks mate, that’s were I’ve read about such limitation.

A bit off-topic, but what about the BIOS? Has anybody ever tried to dissassembly it and document its contents? Could a stable 100MHz mode be achievable through proper optimization of its code?


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