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eXeler0 19 March 2015 23:18

Modern CD32 Expansion
 
I bet all CD32 owners at some point wished they could buy a modern expansion for it.. A modern SX32..something like that..
Individual Computers have done a great job bringing stuff to the Amiga that you never thought would be possible..

Now, the topic for this thread is:
1.Would you buy a modern expansion for your CD32?
2. How much would you be willing to pay for it?
3. What should be in the expansion module? USB ports? Old 1200 expansions? A 040 CPU? FPGA accelerator?


Bring it on ;-)

Nibbler 19 March 2015 23:41

Count me in.

Well, i have a Pro Module and a SX32 Pro but still, i would love to see a new expansion.
(these baby´s getting pretty rare and expensive, and i have a third CD32 console ;) )

I think a RGB SCART + 8MB Fast RAM + CF support + Keyboard interface for the
"basic Expansion" would be a good start.

A 68030 (50Mhz) + 32 MB and maybe a Scan doubler ( VGA ) would be very nice.

I would spend max 200 euro on this :)


Who is with me ? :)

FOL 20 March 2015 00:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXeler0 (Post 1010683)
I bet all CD32 owners at some point wished they could buy a modern expansion for it.. A modern SX32..something like that..
Individual Computers have done a great job bringing stuff to the Amiga that you never thought would be possible..

Now, the topic for this thread is:
1.Would you buy a modern expansion for your CD32?
2. How much would you be willing to pay for it?
3. What should be in the expansion module? USB ports? Old 1200 expansions? A 040 CPU? FPGA accelerator?


Bring it on ;-)

Theres already a thread on this.

Jens said that if there is atleast 300 people interested, then he would possibly make one.

alexh 20 March 2015 00:44

Kipper2k & Ian Steadman are making one.

SteveUK 20 March 2015 02:30

3 expansions;

Entry level: +8mb (similar spec as sx1/sx32) £129
Mid level: 030/50+64mb (similar spec as sx32 pro) £249
Top level: 060/100+128mb (or fpga) so we could have cd32 quake? £699

Fingers crossed! :)

amiman99 20 March 2015 04:38

If someone could integrate Majsta's FPGA project with CF IDE expansion, then we could have 060+ performance with 64MB RAM on CD32, probably well under $200.
Doom for sure, Quake maybe if we have superfast 68882 in FPGA.

x56h34 20 March 2015 05:52

I would definitely buy one as long as it offers a stable connection with no looseness which plagued the old school cd32 expansions.

Some sort of an 030 and up CPU in it, an ide feature (Cf, SD card, whatever), an Amiga rgb port, integrated 128mb ram... And you have my buy. :)

alexh 20 March 2015 12:00

The Apollo/Pheonix core used in Majesta's FPGA project is still very much bleeding edge development.

From what I have heard from users here and elsewhere it is great.... when it works.

Compatibility is still not great but improving.

eXeler0 20 March 2015 12:26

More importantly, the vampire accelerator only works on A600 atm. A CD32 expansion would likely require a whole redesign. But in that case they could replace the cheap FPGA to a better one that would fit the entire new Apollo core.

NorthWay 20 March 2015 13:40

Apollo is work in progress as you can see over here http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge...=2742&z=vkPTw1
Perhaps the 500 version works for CD32 too.

eXeler0 20 March 2015 15:44

To my knowledge, the CD32 expansion bus is unlike any other bus used in other Amigas. Although its 182 pins are fairly well documented it would still require a custom solution.
I have no idea who owns the rights to the various sx32/pro designs but Im pretty sure we wouldnt wanna have somethings thats just a new batch of old hardware. Realistically, 040 cpu designs are not likely.. neither is a FPGA design. The most likely scenario is that individual computer would produce something similar to aca1230.
Not sure right now how the Apollo team is approaching new hardware. The core they have atm is a scaled down version made to fit in majstas chesp fpga board. 1200 or cd32 versions will require some investments.

alexh 20 March 2015 15:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorthWay (Post 1010740)
Perhaps the 500 version works for CD32 too.

Very unlikely seeing as one is 16-bit processor replacement and the other is 32-bit expansion slot.

alexh 20 March 2015 15:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXeler0 (Post 1010753)
To my knowledge, the CD32 expansion bus is unlike any other bus used in other Amigas.

Shape and size yes. Functionality no.

The CD32 expansion connector has pretty much all the signals on the A1200 expansion connector (and more). You can do almost a 1:1 wire-up and an A1200 accelerator will work.

As I said Kipper2k and Steady are working on an SX32-like replacement.

eXeler0 20 March 2015 16:54

Ye I found Steady's blog about the "Hermes project".
For a hobby/home projects its quite impressive. I think they have chosen a realistic feature set.
But if one could dream a bit, I think we could get something more advanced from Individual Computer (like a 030).
Anyhoo, Ill definitely get one of Steady's boards if and when they become available.

NorthWay 20 March 2015 19:18

You know, I thought they would be doing a cpu clamp-on card like the original 600 one.
Hence why it is 500/1000/2000.

Slayer 21 March 2015 04:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh (Post 1010701)
Kipper2k & Ian Steadman are making one.

Where's the info please? :D

turrican3 21 March 2015 06:33

PPC + 060/100 mhz + usb + ethernet + gfxcard + 128mb ram :shocked etc... etc....:shocked I would like the most huge card ever. :nuts
With maximum parts in fpga !!!! :great And must be compatible with amiga os 4 for classics. :)

alexh 21 March 2015 10:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slayer (Post 1010868)
Where's the info please? :D

Search ;-)
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...ipper2k+hermes

Slayer 21 March 2015 11:59

Very good thanks, made a post there

kolla 21 August 2015 06:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh (Post 1010756)
Shape and size yes. Functionality no.

The CD32 expansion connector has pretty much all the signals on the A1200 expansion connector (and more). You can do almost a 1:1 wire-up and an A1200 accelerator will work.

Has this ever bee done? In a month or two I hope to have time to try it, making a riser cable from CD32 expansion to some A1200 board. If it works, I want to buy ACA1221 and broadway USB controller for storage and network.


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