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Supamax 02 February 2009 20:39
PCMCIA/CF insertion & extraction
 
Hi,

I generally prefer to insert my PCMCIA/CF adapter (with the CF fitted) when my Amiga is off.
But sometimes it's useful or needed to hot-insert/extract it.

Ok, I tested that I can hot-insert/extract the PCMCIA card, no problems (the Amiga recognizes the change).

But my question/doubt is this one:
can I hot-insert/extract the CF into/from the PCMCIA adapter (leaving the adapter connected) ?

Or could this create hardware problems, immediately (burned IC's etc.) or later? :nervous:nervous:nervous

davideo 02 February 2009 20:42
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supamax (Post 506411)
Hi,

I generally prefer to insert my PCMCIA/CF adapter (with the CF fitted) when my Amiga is off.
But sometimes it's useful or needed to hot-insert/extract it.

Ok, I tested that I can hot-insert/extract the PCMCIA card, no problems (the Amiga recognizes the change).

But my question/doubt is this one:
can I hot-insert/extract the CF into/from the PCMCIA adapter (leaving the adapter connected) ?

Or could this create hardware problems, immediately (burned IC's etc.) or later? :nervous:nervous:nervous
I've inserted it both ways - with and without the card without any problems.

Dave G :cool

r0jaws 02 February 2009 20:44
I'm trying to think why you would hot swap the cards out of the adapter, surely its just as easy to pull out the adapter, change the card and replace it or am I missing the point?

Supamax 02 February 2009 21:02
Quote:
Originally Posted by r0jaws (Post 506413)
I'm trying to think why you would hot swap the cards out of the adapter, surely its just as easy to pull out the adapter, change the card and replace it or am I missing the point?
Yes, it would seem easier to pull out the whole PCMCIA adapter :) ...
But I find it would be more confortable (less "hard" to extract/insert) to take out the CF only.
Is it safe to swap them directly in the connected PCMCIA adapter?

Quote:
Originally Posted by davideo (Post 506412)
I've inserted it both ways - with and without the card without any problems.

Dave G :cool
Did you do it often?
Does the Amiga recognize with no problems the inserted/extracted CF? :nervous

Amiga1992 02 February 2009 22:47
I hotswap my SD cards all time. It works like a diskdrive. Amiga recognizes the insertion and extraction.

I wouldn't like to extract and reinsert the PCMCIA adapter all the time. it will actually cause a lot of wear and maybe damage to the PCMCIA port.

davideo 02 February 2009 23:37
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supamax (Post 506419)
Did you do it often?
Does the Amiga recognize with no problems the inserted/extracted CF? :nervous
Yes on a fairly regular basis. I find it easier to actually remove/refit the card rather than the whole converter. If you bend a pin in the converter - it's a lot easier to get a new converter than repair the 1200 port :bash

Dave G :cool

prowler 03 February 2009 00:21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akira (Post 506458)
I wouldn't like to extract and reinsert the PCMCIA adapter all the time. it will actually cause a lot of wear and maybe damage to the PCMCIA port.
This would be my concern too. :agree The PCMCIA port looks to have a very delicate pin array.

Supamax 03 February 2009 00:50
@ Akira, davideo and prowler

YES, EXACTLY!!!:great
That was my concern, too. That's why I opened the thread :)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akira (Post 506458)
I hotswap my SD cards all time. It works like a diskdrive. Amiga recognizes the insertion and extraction.
You wrote SD... but did you mean CF ?
Or do you really have a PCMCIA/SD adapter ?
Do you know a working model (eBay link, perhaps) ? I know there are IDE/SD adapters, but I didn't know of PCMCIA/SD, *well working* on the miggy :)

prowler 03 February 2009 00:50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supamax (Post 506555)
@ Akira, davideo and prowler

YES, EXACTLY!!!:great
That was my concern, too. That's why I opened the thread :)
Toni Wilen has reported elsewhere that he has a couple of pins broken on the PCMCIA port of his only A1200. This is what alerted me to this problem.

r0jaws 03 February 2009 00:51
I see, then in that case, I tried it earlier and it didn't appear to have any ill effects.

Supamax 03 February 2009 01:02
Quote:
Originally Posted by r0jaws (Post 506559)
I see, then in that case, I tried it earlier and it didn't appear to have any ill effects.
Ok then, if it's safe I'll leave the adapter inserted and swap the CF only :).

I'm very interested in a PCMCIA/SD adapter, though! :agree
Will the A600/A1200 accept a maximum of 4GB SD?
(just asking, 4GB is a huuuge space for my miggy)

prowler 03 February 2009 01:11
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supamax (Post 506573)
I'm very interested in a PCMCIA/SD adapter, though! :agree
Will the A600/A1200 accept a maximum of 4GB SD?
(just asking, 4GB is a huuuge space for my miggy)
Hi Supamax,

The maximum you should use is 2GB. This is because 4GB and higher capacity cards are SDHC, which is not compatible. This is the advice I got from BlueAchenar in this post:
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=215
when I asked the same question.

prowler

Supamax 03 February 2009 01:36
Quote:
Originally Posted by prowler (Post 506584)
The maximum you should use is 2GB. This is because 4GB and higher capacity cards are SDHC, which is not compatible.
Mmmm... 4GB SD (not SDHC) existed, and they can be bought even now (on eBay, for example).
If I could get an 8GB SD, would it be supported by the Amiga? I don't need all that space, obviously, but I would probably find 8Gb ones in stores (more common than 4GB), now... for a cheap price.

EDIT: perhaps not, I would stay on 4Gb ones.

Calgor 03 February 2009 01:39
I would think it should work with SDHC as long as you have a PCMCIA-SD adapter compatible with SDHC (good luck finding one?).

8GB SDs are generally not recommended as it is non-standard and many other adapters/card readers which support SDHC mostly are said not to support >4GB standard SD.

prowler 03 February 2009 01:40
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supamax (Post 506612)
Mmmm... 4GB SD (not SDHC) existed, and they can be bought even now (on eBay, for example).
If I could get an 8GB SD, would it be supported by the Amiga? I don't need all that space, obviously, but I would probably find 8Gb ones in stores (more common than 4GB), now... for a cheap price.

EDIT: perhaps not, I would stay on 4Gb ones.
Have another look above, mate. I've added a link to BlueAchenar's original post. :)

Supamax 03 February 2009 01:43
No no, SDHC would be wasted for the Amiga (sorry :) ).

Look here, 4GB SD-only can be easily found:
http://cgi.ebay.it/MEMORY-CARD-SECUR...1%7C240%3A1309

Another one:

http://cgi.ebay.it/SD-4GB-TAKEMS-4-G...3A1|240%3A1318

prowler 03 February 2009 01:44
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supamax (Post 506615)
No no, SDHC would be wasted for the Amiga (sorry :) ).

Look here, 4GB SD-only can be easily found:
http://cgi.ebay.it/MEMORY-CARD-SECUR...1%7C240%3A1309
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supamax (Post 506618)
I am suspicious of cards of this type being wrongly labelled.

Supamax 03 February 2009 01:46
Quote:
Originally Posted by prowler (Post 506621)
I am suspicious of cards of this type being wrongly labelled.
The SD standard reached 4GB capacity way before the new SDHC was introduced ;)

prowler 03 February 2009 01:50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supamax (Post 506623)
The SD standard reached 4GB capacity way before the new SDHC was introduced ;)
Well, good luck with that, and let me know whether they work (4GB SD cards can be bought here in the UK too). :great

Supamax 03 February 2009 01:55
Quote:
Originally Posted by prowler (Post 506625)
Well, good luck with that, and let me know whether they work (4GB SD cards can be bought here in the UK too). :great
Are you saying that all 4GB SD cards are fakes/SDHC/non standard?
But I perfectly remember 4GB SD cards *before* SDHC appeared.
Furthermore, my father has a 4GB SD card for his Nikon camera ;). So I could try his one before buying another, he he!

Look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card

However, before thinking about buying one, were could I buy a good PCMCIA/SD adapter, preferably from those Hong Kongish eBay sellers :D?


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