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AMIGASYSTEM 14 May 2017 11:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by PARALAX (Post 1157799)
See attachment. Can't use "endcli" after using "loadwb". And "add setpach" are unknown commands under CLI.

If you have a standard system you must have the commands in Directory C, see the attached video.

PARALAX 14 May 2017 12:20

I meanwhile get it worked but only from CLI shell and without trainer. The Batch file is only executable from workbench. The game seems to need 1,8 MB chip ram which I don't get with trainer and outside from CLI.

AMIGASYSTEM 14 May 2017 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by PARALAX (Post 1157822)
I meanwhile get it worked but only from CLI shell and without trainer. The Batch file is only executable from workbench. The game seems to need 1,8 MB chip ram which I don't get with trainer and outside from CLI.

File Batch you can run it from Shell with the command "Execute"

Make a test with your configuration see video!

PARALAX 14 May 2017 12:55

I could get it work with the no-startup sequence method as well at least from CLI with the "execute t-zero" command but it's very unconvenient in my eyes, even because "y" and "z" are then reverted on german keyboards.

Reducing the number of colours from 256 to 8 also seems to work and is more comfortable, even when just using instead of saving it. The game needs more than 1,85 MB finally.

Thanks anyway!

AMIGASYSTEM 14 May 2017 13:04

You could create scripts and start the game directly or different start Workbench how's that which I used on my old CD32, see video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qzDLFMsEoM

idrougge 14 May 2017 15:25

Indeed T-Zer0 requires lots of chip RAM, and as far as I remember, it came with a script that would reboot the Amiga and run the game without a startup-sequence to free up as much RAM as possible.

DamienD 15 May 2017 20:15

Sorry to hear that you're having issues PARALAX :sad

...as others have said though (and you've discovered) you do need a lot of free Chip RAM unfortunately.

I tested the .LHA archive using WinUAE and a fresh install of "Classic WB 3.1 Lite". There is 1,981,536 bytes free here:

https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images...itled97ca3.png

I wonder what it is on your system that's eating the Chip RAM?

Saying that though, booting with no startup-sequence and then typing the following should work before starting the trainer / game:

SetPatch quiet
Assign Env: Ram:
LoadWB
EndCLI

Quote:

Originally Posted by idrougge (Post 1157891)
Indeed T-Zer0 requires lots of chip RAM, and as far as I remember, it came with a script that would reboot the Amiga and run the game without a startup-sequence to free up as much RAM as possible.

Well then, your mind / memory must be playing tricks on you.

There is no such script on the original CD-ROM or the v1.01 - CD audio patch update...

I have seen something like what you describe with other games though; "Super Street Fighter II Turbo [AGA]" for example.

Amiga1992 15 May 2017 20:28

Things that eat Chip RAM:
- Not using FBlit if you have FastRAM and an accelerator
- Every single window and icon displayed on WB Will eat up RAM and if you don't use FBlit that RAM will be Chip RAM.
- Large color count on WB (use less colors)
- Each partition and drive you have on the system will eat up some RAM, how much depends on the filesystem. If you have Fast RAM this will be used instead , but if you don't, then Chip RAM it is.

So yeah not surprised you don't have enough RAM if you have a 256 color WB, try cutting that down to begin with, and installing FBlit if you haven't .

DamienD 15 May 2017 20:31

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@PARALAX; you could also make a script that you run straight after "Boot With No Startup-Sequence".

Call it "T-Zer0" and store it in say the root of your hard drive for example, which has the following lines (no need to start Workbench):

setpatch quiet
assign env: ram:
cd spiele/t-zer0 (got this location from your screenshot; amend if you've changed)
execute t-zer0

Then all you need to type at the CLI is the following: execute T-Zer0

Edit: I've done this for you, see attached. Just extract the file from the archive to the root of your hard drive. All you need to type is "T-Zer0" (as I've set Script & Execute "protection bits" on the file).

Note to others: don't download this script; it's set up for the folder that PARALAX extracted the .LHA file into on his system... If you really need / want to use it as you suffer from not having enough Chip RAM, then make sure you amend accordingly...

DrBong 15 May 2017 22:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by PARALAX (Post 1157822)
The game seems to need 1,8 MB chip ram which I don't get with trainer and outside from CLI.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PARALAX (Post 1157845)
I could get it work with the no-startup sequence method as well at least from CLI with the "execute t-zero" command but it's very unconvenient in my eyes, even because "y" and "z" are then reverted on german keyboards.

Reducing the number of colours from 256 to 8 also seems to work and is more comfortable, even when just using instead of saving it. The game needs more than 1,85 MB finally.

Quote:

Originally Posted by idrougge (Post 1157891)
Indeed T-Zer0 requires lots of chip RAM, and as far as I remember, it came with a script that would reboot the Amiga and run the game without a startup-sequence to free up as much RAM as possible.

Close. You're thinking of Capital Punishment (V1.1 update only IIRC).

IMHO the idea behind it provides a much more elegant solution than messing around with CLI, scripts or WB colour prefs. These type of solutions have been around on Aminet for ages, and I have provided links to them in the HOL notes for the T-zer0 and Capital Punishment entries in recent weeks.

Some of the Aminet utilities actually provide custom game launchers (with reboot) for particular games like T-zer0, while others are simply generic and can be used to launch any game suffering from a shortage of chipram comfortably from Workbench. Below are just a few that I've successfully used in the past. Hopefully one of them will come in handy for those here having the same chipram problems with T-zer0 and other games as the OP above! :)

- Reboot-Start V4.2 (contains custom game launchers with reboot for T-zer0, Capital Punishment and a few others; has degrading abilities + forces games to use PAL/NTSC screenmodes also) [readme, download]

- Da Cool Booter V1.7 (generic game launcher with reboot + create custom game launchers) [Developer readme, Aminet readme, download]

- Da Cool Installer V1.7 (generic game launcher with reboot + create custom game launchers + a lot more) [readme, download]

EDIT: If anyone wants the *registered* version of Da Cool Installer, then let me know and I'll dig it out for you!

PARALAX 21 May 2017 23:34

Thank you all guys for the effort, especially DamienD for the script. :)

DamienD 22 May 2017 00:00

No problem at all ;)

I presume now that the game & trainer from the .LHA archive I created are working on your system without issue when using this script?

To make it easier, you could always rename the script from "T-Zer0" to say "T0"; less to type.

PARALAX 24 May 2017 04:52

It works but I prefer to decerase the number of colours in the workbench instead because it's the faster way for me. :)

macce2 16 September 2017 20:50

How to get the CDDA audio tracks working ? Which CD file system should be used ? If I remember right, it doesn't work with CacheCDFS..

lineacero 18 October 2017 01:14

Hello partners.
Someone could upload t-zero hdf.game
please

DamienD 18 October 2017 01:42

Hey there lineacero,

Welcome to EAB :great

All files I created are on the EAB File Server under ~Uploads/DamienD :agree

... HDFs - for emulator users.
... LHAs - for real Amiga users.

normanx9 16 January 2021 13:02

Hello

how to have the game in lha and hdf?
~ Uploads / DamienD does not exist

DamienD 16 January 2021 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by normanx9 (Post 1454347)
Hello

how to have the game in lha and hdf?
~ Uploads / DamienD does not exist

Heya normanx9,

Welcome to EAB :great

I deleted my ~Uploads folder back when the Amiga File Server cleanup occurred in June last year.

Anyway, I've reuploaded somewhere and sent you a PM ;)

Please let me know once you've download as I need the space...

normanx9 16 January 2021 22:53

Thank you DamienD

DamienD 17 January 2021 13:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by normanx9 (Post 1454510)
Thank you DamienD

You're welcome normanx9, enjoy ;)

I assume you've downloaded now, so can I remove the archive from the hosting site?


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