Why is the Refresh Frames option always inaccessible?

MethodGit · 22 November 2007, 21:55

For me, anyway.

While I can adjust FPS without a problem, the Refresh function remains greyed out all the time, whether before the start of emulation or during it. No amount of option-changing in the other tabs will enable access for me.

I wish to try the Refresh option as I find that adjusting the FPS results in WinUAE (1.4.4 here) attempting to draw every frame still, but at a much slower pace.... rather than just skipping frames along the way to keep everything at the same speed. It's all for my movie recording purposes really, and I noticed an FPS slider in the Output window, but that appears to do bugger-all - when I go back to the GUI afterwards it immediately returns to 50 or 60, and the video recording outputs in that frame count still. So I'm assuming that the Refresh Frames option is what I need to look at.

(In case you're interested, I discovered that due to some limitations in the program I'll be using to convert movies to a PSP-compatible format, I'll need to reduce the amount of frames to 29.97 or thereabouts.)

Toni Wilen · 23 November 2007, 10:29

Cycle-exact most likely.

Anyway, you are still doing it wrong, just capture it with "wrong" settings and edit it later. WinUAE is not video post-processing software.

MethodGit · 23 November 2007, 15:54

And switching Cycle-Exact off was indeed the answer. I never seem to remember those sort of options!

But yeah, I have had to pretty much resort to VirtualDub somewhat, as it's very difficult to record something at the exact resolution and fps from the start (HyperCam for instance is the only screen recorder I know of which allows 29.97 exactly rather than 29/30, but it can only record audio in mono format for some bizarre reason). I guess by recording at 30fps and changing it to 29.97 in VDub afterwards it won't affect the whole video too much (dropping too many frames in that program results in the audio and video going out of sync).

BippyM · 23 November 2007, 16:10

err it'll go out of sync!

The start will be in sync, then end wont.. try it!

frikilokooo · 23 November 2007, 16:30

Camtasia Studio is very good program to record videogames while you play,easy to use.The only problem is that it's not free.

MethodGit · 23 November 2007, 16:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by bippym

err it'll go out of sync!

The start will be in sync, then end wont.. try it!

What, even after a 0.03 difference?

22 November 2007, 21:55	#1
MethodGit Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Streets Age: 39 Posts: 2,731	Why is the Refresh Frames option always inaccessible? For me, anyway. While I can adjust FPS without a problem, the Refresh function remains greyed out all the time, whether before the start of emulation or during it. No amount of option-changing in the other tabs will enable access for me. I wish to try the Refresh option as I find that adjusting the FPS results in WinUAE (1.4.4 here) attempting to draw every frame still, but at a much slower pace.... rather than just skipping frames along the way to keep everything at the same speed. It's all for my movie recording purposes really, and I noticed an FPS slider in the Output window, but that appears to do bugger-all - when I go back to the GUI afterwards it immediately returns to 50 or 60, and the video recording outputs in that frame count still. So I'm assuming that the Refresh Frames option is what I need to look at. (In case you're interested, I discovered that due to some limitations in the program I'll be using to convert movies to a PSP-compatible format, I'll need to reduce the amount of frames to 29.97 or thereabouts.)

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23 November 2007, 10:29	#2
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	Cycle-exact most likely. Anyway, you are still doing it wrong, just capture it with "wrong" settings and edit it later. WinUAE is not video post-processing software.

23 November 2007, 15:54	#3
MethodGit Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Streets Age: 39 Posts: 2,731	And switching Cycle-Exact off was indeed the answer. I never seem to remember those sort of options! But yeah, I have had to pretty much resort to VirtualDub somewhat, as it's very difficult to record something at the exact resolution and fps from the start (HyperCam for instance is the only screen recorder I know of which allows 29.97 exactly rather than 29/30, but it can only record audio in mono format for some bizarre reason). I guess by recording at 30fps and changing it to 29.97 in VDub afterwards it won't affect the whole video too much (dropping too many frames in that program results in the audio and video going out of sync).

23 November 2007, 16:10	#4
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	err it'll go out of sync! The start will be in sync, then end wont.. try it!

23 November 2007, 16:30	#5
frikilokooo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mallorca,Spain. Age: 44 Posts: 1,154	Camtasia Studio is very good program to record videogames while you play,easy to use.The only problem is that it's not free.

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