MTEC Viper 68030/28mhz, opinions?

illy5603 · 31 August 2008, 23:15

I did a search but can't find too many reviews of the MTEC Viper 68030/28mhz with 8mb ram here. Does anyone else run one and if so, how do you like it?

rkauer · 31 August 2008, 23:40

The only thing I know about it is it is not PCMCIA friendly. So if you put more than 4Mb of RAM on it you will have problems if try to use the PCMCIA port for anything.

keropi · 31 August 2008, 23:46

had one of these, worked excellent with whdload (mine had a full 68030/25mhz, not 68EC030) but as rkauer stated, you loose the pcmcia port with 8MB installed...

illy5603 · 01 September 2008, 00:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by keropi

had one of these, worked excellent with whdload (mine had a full 68030/25mhz, not 68EC030) but as rkauer stated, you loose the pcmcia port with 8MB installed...

Excellent. I purchased the one with the math chip on it. I have a 4meg chip in my current RAM board and will move that over as I need my PCMCIA slot.

essence25 · 01 September 2008, 01:47

So what do you guys recommend for a accelerator that will be good with PCMCIA? Planning to play mostly games on the machine.

alphonsus · 01 September 2008, 02:31

If playing games, why worried about PCMCIA?

illy5603 · 01 September 2008, 03:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by alphonsus

If playing games, why worried about PCMCIA?

For a game machine, just don't go over 4megs and you should be ok. I think some of the higher end cards don't conflict with PCMCIA, can someone explain, confirm this?

rkauer · 01 September 2008, 03:36

Any board who accepts more than 8Mb is OK (they don't hit the PCMCIA memory space).

essence25 · 01 September 2008, 07:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by alphonsus

If playing games, why worried about PCMCIA?

Well I do need to connect it to my lan, transfer files betweeen etc. Plus other misc geeky reasons.

;-)

keropi · 01 September 2008, 08:06

the Blizzard 1230 MK4 is the ultimate 030 accelerator...

fc.studio · 01 September 2008, 09:27

The Blizzard 1220/4 (68020 25 Mhz with 4 MB and optional FPU) has similar or BETTER performances and you can use PCMCIA port if you avoid optional further 4 MB expansion. SYSINFO and AIBB reported a bit slower MIPS (altough 31 !!! Mhz detected) but faster access to memory.
My comparison is VS. a DKB Cobra, called VIPER too, I had. It mounted a 68030/28 (not 68EC030 without MMU) and could mount up to 128 MB without loosing PCMCIA port if 4 MB or more have been installed.

Read here post #5 and more: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=33243

I believe the best 68030 board you can buy for an Amiga 1200 is the Blizzard 1230/IV.

essence25 · 01 September 2008, 11:19

Where can I find one?

keropi · 01 September 2008, 11:33

ebay

essence25 · 02 September 2008, 00:50

What about at SoftwareHut web site they still list some appolo's and a viper. Any recommendations from there?

rkauer · 02 September 2008, 01:05

SoftHut is very known Amiga re-seller. And trustworthy!

But their page isn't updated very often. Ask them first for availability.

fc.studio · 02 September 2008, 01:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by essence25

So what do you guys recommend for a accelerator that will be good with PCMCIA? Planning to play mostly games on the machine.

To choose an accelerator board for your A1200 I believe you can find useful my #4 post here:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=31687

illy5603 · 02 September 2008, 05:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkauer

SoftHut is very known Amiga re-seller. And trustworthy!

But their page isn't updated very often. Ask them first for availability.

Here is a reply straight from Joe Muoio of Softhut regarding the availability of accelerators, sent today.

Quote:

Sorry none, the only few we have left are bundled with our A1200 refurbished systems. See them on our home page under featured products.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fc.studio

To choose an accelerator board for your A1200 I believe you can find useful my #4 post here:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=31687

Thanks,

That is exactly what I was looking for, should be stickied! I paid $120 US for my 68030/28mhz viper with 8mb on it, not bad and easy enough to resell at that price so I will give it a go! It won't be here for a few weeks though.

essence25 · 02 September 2008, 07:03

If you selling an 030 let me know when..

illy5603 · 06 September 2008, 21:18

Hey guys,

This arrived today and I got it installed. Appears to be working great. Even with 8Megs installed on the Viper, my CF card in the PCMCIA slot still works. I was told it wouldn't, were they incorrect or will a problem show up in some other application of the PCMCIA port?

hit · 06 September 2008, 23:46

post a picture after running showconfig. so there is no need for guessing

Edit:
i guess (

) i have the same card, this one http://bboah.amiga-resistance.info/c...cgi?HARDID=120 . its not bad, but what really bugs me, it seems i'm stuck with the 8MB max. i was thinking there might be a way, to use the mmu or some related tools to use more ram, but i've not found an answer yet.
1) so simple question. is there a way to get more ram onto it?

2) i've once used a pcmcia modem with it and made my way to the net. and i'm pretty sure, i've not changed the ram-config, or even disabled the m-tec at all. but cant say exactly.

31 August 2008, 23:15	#1
illy5603 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPaT CiTY Posts: 557	MTEC Viper 68030/28mhz, opinions? I did a search but can't find too many reviews of the MTEC Viper 68030/28mhz with 8mb ram here. Does anyone else run one and if so, how do you like it?

01 September 2008, 09:27	#11
fc.studio Cat lover Join Date: May 2004 Location: Italy Age: 54 Posts: 804	The Blizzard 1220/4 (68020 25 Mhz with 4 MB and optional FPU) has similar or BETTER performances and you can use PCMCIA port if you avoid optional further 4 MB expansion. SYSINFO and AIBB reported a bit slower MIPS (altough 31 !!! Mhz detected) but faster access to memory. My comparison is VS. a DKB Cobra, called VIPER too, I had. It mounted a 68030/28 (not 68EC030 without MMU) and could mount up to 128 MB without loosing PCMCIA port if 4 MB or more have been installed. Read here post #5 and more: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=33243 I believe the best 68030 board you can buy for an Amiga 1200 is the Blizzard 1230/IV. Last edited by fc.studio; 01 September 2008 at 09:39.

06 September 2008, 23:46	#20
hit Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: planet earth Posts: 1,115	post a picture after running showconfig. so there is no need for guessing Edit: i guess ( ) i have the same card, this one http://bboah.amiga-resistance.info/c...cgi?HARDID=120 . its not bad, but what really bugs me, it seems i'm stuck with the 8MB max. i was thinking there might be a way, to use the mmu or some related tools to use more ram, but i've not found an answer yet. 1) so simple question. is there a way to get more ram onto it? 2) i've once used a pcmcia modem with it and made my way to the net. and i'm pretty sure, i've not changed the ram-config, or even disabled the m-tec at all. but cant say exactly. Last edited by hit; 06 September 2008 at 23:53. Reason: this and that

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31 August 2008, 23:40	#2
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	The only thing I know about it is it is not PCMCIA friendly. So if you put more than 4Mb of RAM on it you will have problems if try to use the PCMCIA port for anything.

31 August 2008, 23:46	#3
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	had one of these, worked excellent with whdload (mine had a full 68030/25mhz, not 68EC030) but as rkauer stated, you loose the pcmcia port with 8MB installed...

01 September 2008, 01:47	#5
essence25 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chicago, IL USA Posts: 15	So what do you guys recommend for a accelerator that will be good with PCMCIA? Planning to play mostly games on the machine.

01 September 2008, 02:31	#6
alphonsus Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: UK Age: 50 Posts: 181	If playing games, why worried about PCMCIA?

01 September 2008, 03:36	#8
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	Any board who accepts more than 8Mb is OK (they don't hit the PCMCIA memory space).

01 September 2008, 08:06	#10
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	the Blizzard 1230 MK4 is the ultimate 030 accelerator...

01 September 2008, 11:19	#12
essence25 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chicago, IL USA Posts: 15	Where can I find one?

01 September 2008, 11:33	#13
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	ebay

02 September 2008, 00:50	#14
essence25 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chicago, IL USA Posts: 15	What about at SoftwareHut web site they still list some appolo's and a viper. Any recommendations from there?

02 September 2008, 01:05	#15
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	SoftHut is very known Amiga re-seller. And trustworthy! But their page isn't updated very often. Ask them first for availability.

02 September 2008, 07:03	#18
essence25 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chicago, IL USA Posts: 15	If you selling an 030 let me know when..

06 September 2008, 21:18	#19
illy5603 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPaT CiTY Posts: 557	Hey guys, This arrived today and I got it installed. Appears to be working great. Even with 8Megs installed on the Viper, my CF card in the PCMCIA slot still works. I was told it wouldn't, were they incorrect or will a problem show up in some other application of the PCMCIA port?

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