X86 Discussion - Page 47

SquawkBox · 06 January 2021, 06:20

I managed to source a generic 6-pin ribbon cable that I plan to use as a replacement for the original SB-Link one (more often than not, the latter is missing from the various bundles / kits on eBay). When it comes to SB-Link socket on my MSI, The distance to the next pin is 2 mm away so any of these ought to fit just fine. Before ordering should you choose to do so, I suggest checking measurement between pins on your Chaintech's SB-Link socket like I did, just in case.

nathanm1991 · 23 January 2021, 02:14

Sorry i haven't Posted in a While Everybody my Motherboard Decided to Die :-( all back up and Running now :-)

SquawkBox · 30 January 2021, 20:26

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Originally Posted by SquawkBox

The distance to the next pin is 2 mm away

Make that 2.5 mm

(search Amazon for 2.54 mm 6-pin connector flat ribbon cables, the 2 mm kind probably won't fit). The mobo is the MSI MS-6119 (440BX chipset, ATX form factor, x3 ISA ports).

Also, managed to gather some useful info in French language about my OPL3 PCI sound card, the Labway / Xwave 576 (features a Yamaha driven 64-voice XG wavetable synthesizer).

lesta_smsc · 30 January 2021, 20:28

Dell Dimension 2400 with Intel celeron. Anyone interested in these before I list elsewhere?

nathanm1991 · 31 January 2021, 21:14

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Originally Posted by lesta_smsc

Dell Dimension 2400 with Intel celeron. Anyone interested in these before I list elsewhere?

How much you asking?

lesta_smsc · 31 January 2021, 21:18

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Originally Posted by nathanm1991

How much you asking?

Sorry. Gave it away to a friend for free in the end. He wanted something to get into DOS gaming and this machine was perfect for that.

nathanm1991 · 31 January 2021, 21:38

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Originally Posted by lesta_smsc

Sorry. Gave it away to a friend for free in the end. He wanted something to get into DOS gaming and this machine was perfect for that.

My Dimension 2400 only has PCI Slots (Which is why i need a PCI GPU)

Did yours have AGP? or did you use a pci card? i tried to install 98se on the Machine but Struggled to Find Chipset Drivers

Currently rocking XP and AROS Dual Boot

lesta_smsc · 31 January 2021, 22:10

It was also PCI. It had PCI ATI radeon card. I can't remember which one now but it would have worked for 15khz mod via modified drivers.

nathanm1991 · 31 January 2021, 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by lesta_smsc

It was also PCI. It had PCI ATI radeon card. I can't remember which one now but it would have worked for 15khz mod via modified drivers.

Ah cool

I don't know which Card to go for

NovaCoder · 01 February 2021, 01:00

A little slice of PC retro gaming with an Amiga style

[ Show youtube player ]

Witness the skills

lesta_smsc · 01 February 2021, 01:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaCoder

A little slice of PC retro gaming with an Amiga style

[ Show youtube player ]

Witness the skills

Oooh Mister! So you're running this all in native? Does it emulate SB / Roland MT-32 etc?

NovaCoder · 01 February 2021, 04:10

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Originally Posted by lesta_smsc

Oooh Mister! So you're running this all in native? Does it emulate SB / Roland MT-32 etc?

Hi,

Yes it simulates a Sound Blaster 16 and also supports native external MIDI devices and even supports using a raspberry Pi as a MIDI device.

nathanm1991 · 01 February 2021, 20:49

How much is a Mister now?

lesta_smsc · 01 February 2021, 22:05

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Originally Posted by NovaCoder

Hi,

Yes it simulates a Sound Blaster 16 and also supports native external MIDI devices and even supports using a raspberry Pi as a MIDI device.

When you say external midi are you referring to using something else as midi as opposed to emulation within mister? If the former then I suspect you're using:

https://github.com/dwhinham/mt32-pi

This is great but I was disappointed that it didn't run on Pi Zero lol.

At the moment @nathanm1991 stick with emulation on PC with an ATI graphics card. Cheaper and more versatile! Mister are nearly expensive as accelerators for Amiga these days.

@NovaCoder when I get a spare moment I'm planning on updating DOSBox with the following to make it output on to CRT and pixel perfect:

https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=75774

Just tested out WinUAE setup thanks to @DamienD for helping out with config files and it runs very well. I've already done side my side comparison to my Amiga and there is no visual difference. The best of both worlds... I may just get a usb zip stick to give the feel of playing with Amiga controller but otherwise any gamepad will suffice for now.

dreadnought · 01 February 2021, 22:50

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Originally Posted by lesta_smsc

At the moment @nathanm1991 stick with emulation on PC with an ATI graphics card. Cheaper and more versatile! Mister are nearly expensive as accelerators for Amiga these days.

That's not really true. You can have working Mister for about 150 GBP.

Unfortunately its DOS core does not output proper VGA at the moment so for me it's useless. Supposed to work ok on HDMI though.

I doubt you'll ever get "pixel perfect" Dosbox on a TV. VGA games run at 70Hz after all. I would be interested to try it out but at the moment am too fed up trying to get crtemudriver and Retroarch to work properly...don't need another headache

lesta_smsc · 01 February 2021, 23:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreadnought

That's not really true. You can have working Mister for about 150 GBP.

Unfortunately its DOS core does not output proper VGA at the moment so for me it's useless. Supposed to work ok on HDMI though.

I doubt you'll ever get "pixel perfect" Dosbox on a TV. VGA games run at 70Hz after all. I would be interested to try it out but at the moment am too fed up trying to get crtemudriver and Retroarch to work properly...don't need another headache

The link posted appears to suggest otherwise in terms of DOS. Super resolution make achieving the required pixel density but I get what you're saying about 70khz... I wonder if custom modelines can overcome this?

I may consider having using this on standard monitor or laptop screen for DOSBOX:

https://mattiasgustavsson.itch.io/dosbox-crt

As for Retroarch. I think that requires static modelines whereas the default is to generate dynamic modelines.

In my set up I just put in custom modelines found online for the resolution for various emulators. I think Retroarch on the whole succeeded in selecting right resolution but sometimes I need to in to video options to amend.

dreadnought · 02 February 2021, 17:54

@lesta_smsc: I replied in this thread: http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...0&postcount=17

SquawkBox · 02 February 2021, 20:14

My LCD TV (the hoary RZ-15LA66 15'' from LG) can use 70 Hz out of the box. Will I see any benefit from playing DOS games on it rather than on say a bog standard 4:3 IPS LCD monitor ? The way I see it, it might go through an internal framerate conversion first, which would water down the alleged benefit...

lesta_smsc · 03 February 2021, 02:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreadnought

@lesta_smsc: I replied in this thread: http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...0&postcount=17

Please go to that thread for my reply lol.

nathanm1991 · 27 February 2021, 15:10

How hard would i find it to Acquire a Tandy 1000 RL/HD in the UK? Were they Popular over here at all?

06 January 2021, 06:20	#921
SquawkBox Speedbump gimme goosebump Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: France Age: 50 Posts: 783	I managed to source a generic 6-pin ribbon cable that I plan to use as a replacement for the original SB-Link one (more often than not, the latter is missing from the various bundles / kits on eBay). When it comes to SB-Link socket on my MSI, The distance to the next pin is 2 mm away so any of these ought to fit just fine. Before ordering should you choose to do so, I suggest checking measurement between pins on your Chaintech's SB-Link socket like I did, just in case. Last edited by SquawkBox; 30 January 2021 at 20:27.

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