AmiDuke - New Duke Nukem 3D port for AGA - Page 9

nelsn68k · 15 April 2021, 13:26

Could WAV files be an alternative?

NovaCoder · 15 April 2021, 13:55

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Originally Posted by nelsn68k

Could WAV files be an alternative?

Yes wav files are now supported too

Be aware that this will still require more CPU usage because it has to mix the output.

klx300r · 15 April 2021, 20:32

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Originally Posted by NovaCoder

New version of AmiDuke released with support for music at long last. I used the code from Chocolate DOOM to add support for playing back compressed music files (ogg). Unfortunately this will be very slow on real classic hardware and the current FPGA computers (Vampire etc) but who knows, maybe one day they will be fast enough

It's possible that using less compressed Ogg files might help, it's not something I can test myself

NOVA you're still the man baby for us amigans

rabidgerry · 29 April 2021, 16:12

Tried to get this to work but when I double click on the DukeNukem icon it does something but nothing loads. Trying it in WINUAE first and can see the cpu ticking over for about 10 seconds before zero happenings. What could I be doing wrong? I have the Duke3d.grp file in the same directory as instructed but dunno what else I should be doing. Any ideas?

NovaCoder · 29 April 2021, 16:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabidgerry

Tried to get this to work but when I double click on the DukeNukem icon it does something but nothing loads. Trying it in WINUAE first and can see the cpu ticking over for about 10 seconds before zero happenings. What could I be doing wrong? I have the Duke3d.grp file in the same directory as instructed but dunno what else I should be doing. Any ideas?

Did it write out an error log file?

Must be the atomic version of the game BTW

AMIGASYSTEM · 29 April 2021, 16:43

@rabidgerry
What configuration are you using on WinUAE (PAl, RTG, CPU and RAM)? Have you tried to monitor with Snoopdos?

rabidgerry · 29 April 2021, 17:24

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Originally Posted by NovaCoder

Did it write out an error log file?

Must be the atomic version of the game BTW

Yeah it's Atomic version.

The only thing in the error text is "sound source playback failed".

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Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

What configuration are you using on WinUAE (PAl, RTG, CPU and RAM)? Have you tried to monitor with Snoopdos?

060, PAL, 800x600 window, 64mb ram

No not tried snoop dos.

AMIGASYSTEM · 29 April 2021, 18:44

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Originally Posted by rabidgerry

The only thing in the error text is "sound source playback failed".

In your system is AHI installed?

https://aminet.net/package/driver/audio/ahiusr_4.18

DamienD · 29 April 2021, 18:55

rabidgerry; make sure you've set an RTG display first.

This port, and one or two others by Nova won't start if a standard WB display is set.

AMIGASYSTEM · 29 April 2021, 22:06

Damiano you don't need an RTG screen AmiDuke works fine even on a PAL Standard screen, and I would say it looks good too.

rabidgerry · 29 April 2021, 22:12

Yeah I thought there was a seperate RTG version and and AGA version? I downloaded the one that says AGA off Aminet.

Ok haven't downloaded AHI so will try this.

@Amigasystem, I tried the other version of Duke the v0.3 version and it don't work either wtf is going on!

AMIGASYSTEM · 29 April 2021, 22:48

Yes they are two separate versions one AGA (PAL) and the other RTG
Also the other Duke3d Amiga engine v0.3 works fine !

My two versions of Duke3D (Video test)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AC2...ew?usp=sharing

NovaCoder · 30 April 2021, 00:04

This is the one you should be using on winuae http://aminet.net/package/game/shoot/AmiDuke_RTG

I also did this AHI setup guide years ago which you might need, it's for ScummVM but the same applies to any port that uses AHI.

[ Show youtube player ]

rabidgerry · 30 April 2021, 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaCoder

This is the one you should be using on winuae http://aminet.net/package/game/shoot/AmiDuke_RTG

I also did this AHI setup guide years ago which you might need, it's for ScummVM but the same applies to any port that uses AHI.

[ Show youtube player ]

Ok well I was only using in WINUAE to test, so are you saying I should install for real on my Amiga and it should work? Thanks for the guide I will take a look.

DamienD · 30 April 2021, 13:39

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Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

Damiano you don't need an RTG screen AmiDuke works fine even on a PAL Standard screen, and I would say it looks good too.

From memory if I left a normal WB screen then it wouldn't load for me. Can't check at the moment.

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Originally Posted by rabidgerry

Yeah I thought there was a seperate RTG version and and AGA version? I downloaded the one that says AGA off Aminet.

Ah, you're using the AGA version anyway so ignore my comments then

AMIGASYSTEM · 30 April 2021, 15:35

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Originally Posted by DamienD

From memory if I left a normal WB screen then it wouldn't load for me. Can't check at the moment.
Ah, you're using the AGA version anyway so ignore my comments then

In the "Tooltype" icon you must disable the parameter "closewb" otherwise Duke will start hidden "behind the screen" which makes you think that the game is not started.

rabidgerry · 01 May 2021, 11:22

Installed AHI and used again in WINUAE. Ok so the game loaded and started and allowed me to play. But it's all "stuttery" and unplayable. I dunno if this something to do with my WINUAE setup which is kinda setup close to my actual Amiga setup or not. I will try it on my actual Amiga now and see what happens.

Question, when AHI is installed, does it require specific hardware setup? I don't really understand what it is. Some kind of driver for audio used by certain programs? I'm used to drivers being required for hardware normally and my Amiga setup is not fancy at all, just Amiga and Monitor with basic limited frequency responding onboard speakers.

AMIGASYSTEM · 01 May 2021, 11:35

In AHI Prefs if you use WinUAE you can choose and save for all UAE units 16Bit WIFI with the maximum frequency

On a real Amiga if you don't have a sound card you have to choose Paula with a frequency supported by your Amiga.

Of course if you configure WinUAE like your real Amiga it's normal that it's slow and stuttering, emulate an A4000 040/060 JIT with 256MB of RAM and you'll see the game perfect also in sound.

rabidgerry · 01 May 2021, 12:45

Well when I installed using the installer it asked what hardware I had and I selected Paula.

So in order to get this to work in WINUAE I would need to change the preferences?

WINUAE is not really that important, as I mentioned earlier I simply use it to test everything usually. So if I can't get it to work I shall just move onto real Amiga. But if I can in WINUAE then that will be good just to test it out.

****edit**** you mean HIFI right not WIFI?

rabidgerry · 02 May 2021, 11:43

Ok installed on my actual Amiga and it worked straight away. AHI was already on there. Runs pretty smooth, but the screen size is a little weird, it's about 3/4 size, so the bottom is black, is that normal?

29 April 2021, 16:43	#166
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	@rabidgerry What configuration are you using on WinUAE (PAl, RTG, CPU and RAM)? Have you tried to monitor with Snoopdos? Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 29 April 2021 at 17:51.

29 April 2021, 22:48	#172
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Yes they are two separate versions one AGA (PAL) and the other RTG Also the other Duke3d Amiga engine v0.3 works fine ! My two versions of Duke3D (Video test) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AC2...ew?usp=sharing Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 29 April 2021 at 23:09.

30 April 2021, 00:04	#173
NovaCoder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 4,400	This is the one you should be using on winuae http://aminet.net/package/game/shoot/AmiDuke_RTG I also did this AHI setup guide years ago which you might need, it's for ScummVM but the same applies to any port that uses AHI. [ Show youtube player ] Last edited by NovaCoder; 30 April 2021 at 02:54.

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15 April 2021, 13:26	#161
nelsn68k Registered User Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Rostock Posts: 12	Could WAV files be an alternative?

29 April 2021, 16:12	#164
rabidgerry Registered User Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Belfast Posts: 1,512	Tried to get this to work but when I double click on the DukeNukem icon it does something but nothing loads. Trying it in WINUAE first and can see the cpu ticking over for about 10 seconds before zero happenings. What could I be doing wrong? I have the Duke3d.grp file in the same directory as instructed but dunno what else I should be doing. Any ideas?

29 April 2021, 18:55	#169
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	rabidgerry; make sure you've set an RTG display first. This port, and one or two others by Nova won't start if a standard WB display is set.

29 April 2021, 22:06	#170
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Damiano you don't need an RTG screen AmiDuke works fine even on a PAL Standard screen, and I would say it looks good too.

29 April 2021, 22:12	#171
rabidgerry Registered User Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Belfast Posts: 1,512	Yeah I thought there was a seperate RTG version and and AGA version? I downloaded the one that says AGA off Aminet. Ok haven't downloaded AHI so will try this. @Amigasystem, I tried the other version of Duke the v0.3 version and it don't work either wtf is going on!

01 May 2021, 11:22	#177
rabidgerry Registered User Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Belfast Posts: 1,512	Installed AHI and used again in WINUAE. Ok so the game loaded and started and allowed me to play. But it's all "stuttery" and unplayable. I dunno if this something to do with my WINUAE setup which is kinda setup close to my actual Amiga setup or not. I will try it on my actual Amiga now and see what happens. Question, when AHI is installed, does it require specific hardware setup? I don't really understand what it is. Some kind of driver for audio used by certain programs? I'm used to drivers being required for hardware normally and my Amiga setup is not fancy at all, just Amiga and Monitor with basic limited frequency responding onboard speakers.

01 May 2021, 11:35	#178
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	In AHI Prefs if you use WinUAE you can choose and save for all UAE units 16Bit WIFI with the maximum frequency On a real Amiga if you don't have a sound card you have to choose Paula with a frequency supported by your Amiga. Of course if you configure WinUAE like your real Amiga it's normal that it's slow and stuttering, emulate an A4000 040/060 JIT with 256MB of RAM and you'll see the game perfect also in sound.

01 May 2021, 12:45	#179
rabidgerry Registered User Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Belfast Posts: 1,512	Well when I installed using the installer it asked what hardware I had and I selected Paula. So in order to get this to work in WINUAE I would need to change the preferences? WINUAE is not really that important, as I mentioned earlier I simply use it to test everything usually. So if I can't get it to work I shall just move onto real Amiga. But if I can in WINUAE then that will be good just to test it out. **edit** you mean HIFI right not WIFI?

02 May 2021, 11:43	#180
rabidgerry Registered User Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Belfast Posts: 1,512	Ok installed on my actual Amiga and it worked straight away. AHI was already on there. Runs pretty smooth, but the screen size is a little weird, it's about 3/4 size, so the bottom is black, is that normal?

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