aspect ratio and scaling problem

[hexaae]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

I can't duplicate above issues but try http://www.winuae.net/files/b/winuae.zip which has some updates (and possibly breaks something else..)

BTW, this version reintroduced instability and WUAE crashes after I reboot from WB.
-some tests later-
No sorry it was this Picasso Prefs option that when inactive makes WUAE crash after a 2nd, 3rd software reboot from WB:


Attached a log + minidump.

[hexaae]

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

I will test it later with the disk version and a 16:10 host ratio. Just a question : Do you use 1200x800 as the resolution inside WinUAE, when running fullscreen hexaae?

Yes. In the above msg it's attached my cfg if you want to replicate my settings...

[hexaae]

I've finally found the origin of the problem!

It's MCP (Amiga side)! The well known multi-purpose commodity... the strange thing is that even disabling ALL options/features and even killing it after first run (just run it again to remove all its WB patches and quit) the problem with trembling screen was still there! Why, even with all options disabled and not running (it was ON but you quit it), should affect WUAE screen emulation?

Attached with simple instructions to run it.

[Toni Wilen]

"Couldn't open mcpsupport.library V4.x !" Do you have installer package? (exact same version, of course)

[hexaae]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

"Couldn't open mcpsupport.library V4.x !" Do you have installer package? (exact same version, of course)

Here are missing libs, should run now.

[Toni Wilen]

I can duplicate it now, thanks.

MCP enables "show sprites outside bitplane" (AGA-only feature) and there seems to be some moving/changing "ghost" sprite somewhere that causes autoscale repositioning.

Problem is that there should not be any "ghost" sprites, need to debug more..

[hexaae]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

I can duplicate it now, thanks.

MCP enables "show sprites outside bitplane" (AGA-only feature) and there seems to be some moving/changing "ghost" sprite somewhere that causes autoscale repositioning.

Problem is that there should not be any "ghost" sprites, need to debug more..

Interesting...

In the meanwhile I've found a little bug in scaled mode + vertical centering (PAL game) with Darkmere:

The loading screen should be centered.

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by hexaae

Interesting...

In the meanwhile I've found a little bug in scaled mode + vertical centering (PAL game) with Darkmere:

The loading screen should be centered.

"Loading screen" = ?

(vertical centering? and autoscale? Do not enable both)

[Toni Wilen]

Dragonstone autoscale + BRDSPRT problem is solved (forgot to check for both BRDSPRT and ECSENA when testing if sprites are visible outside of bitplanes when calculating autoscale).

btw, it was the cursor that caused the problem, cursor flickering is done by moving the cursor "behind" left border every 1-2 frame

[hexaae]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

"Loading screen" = ?

(vertical centering? and autoscale? Do not enable both)

Yes. When you press fire at main menu it asks to load a previous game (2nd option) or start a new one. That's the Loading screen for me...
Attached my savegame file-disk, copy it into Darkmere/Data/

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Dragonstone autoscale + BRDSPRT problem is solved (forgot to check for both BRDSPRT and ECSENA when testing if sprites are visible outside of bitplanes when calculating autoscale).

btw, it was the cursor that caused the problem, cursor flickering is done by moving the cursor "behind" left border every 1-2 frame

Great news!
I suspected that could be something cursor-related... MCP infact can patch cursor to use 8 or 16 colors as far as I can remember. Even if you disable all options probably...
I've just re-read your msg above when you said it was "show sprites outside bitplane" function, triggered by MCP.

[hexaae]

Just found another strange issue!
This time is Future Wars: Time travellers.
Just start it. With scaled mode on, when you move mouse to the borders of the screen it gets rescaled on the fly, every time you move the mouse to the 4 edges.

Again, no MCP no issue. Same problem?

Didn't think Amiga games did so weird things...

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by hexaae

Just found another strange issue!
This time is Future Wars: Time travellers.
Just start it. With scaled mode on, when you move mouse to the borders of the screen it gets rescaled on the fly, every time you move the mouse to the 4 edges.

Again, no MCP no issue. Same problem?

Didn't think Amiga games did so weird things...

Same problem. Quick workaround: disable AGA emulation

btw, there is nothing weird

[hexaae]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

btw, there is nothing weird

cursor flickering is done by moving the cursor "behind" left border every 1-2 frame

This is a bit weird IMHO

BTW, can you do something to reduce vertical size in NTSC aspect when Vert./Horiz. size = FS? Should be a bit more squashed.

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by hexaae

This is a bit weird IMHO

BTW, can you do something to reduce vertical size in NTSC aspect when Vert./Horiz. size = FS? Should be a bit more squashed.

Show me example program/game/demo that has easy to see shape (like a circle) that looks wrong. (btw, there will be "interesting" replies from me if I can see exact same shape on my real Amiga in NTSC mode. Be prapared! )

winuae.zip updated, should fix all previously reported problem.

[hexaae]

Here is EOBI (AGA by CFou! ):



First sshot is 16:10 FS, FS. 2nd is 15:9 FS, FS and looks better (see rectangles and circles.
Other games where I've noticed this excessive vertical stretching in NTSC and FS, FS are Panza Kick Boxing (intro uses some circles), or IK+ (run the WHD versions with NTSC tooltype).

On my 16:10 (1280x800) laptop, when Vert./Horiz. size = FS 15:9 looks better proportioned.

PS
Great work! All afore-mentioned bugs with Darkmere, Dragonstone etc. are fixed. Confirmed.
Have you also fixed the crash I reported in msg #21?

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by hexaae

Have you also fixed the crash I reported in msg #21?

Ignored because so called "bug report" was useless

[hexaae]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Ignored because so called "bug report" was useless

Just dload and use from Aminet: http://aminet.net/package/driver/video/PVS and try setting that option OFF. WUAE will crash after a software reboot from WB (to boot again in WB).

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by hexaae

Just dload and use from Aminet: http://aminet.net/package/driver/video/PVS and try setting that option OFF. WUAE will crash after a software reboot from WB (to boot again in WB).

Oops, I missed your edit. Only original report was totally useless

Confirmed, that option is incompatible with emulated RTG, option is now internally always force-enabled.

[hexaae]

Toni, what about wrong aspect of NTSC in FS, FS mode?
Here is a comparision:


As you can see FS, FS is too streched vertically compared to autoscale mode. Should have the same proportions instead.

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by hexaae

As you can see FS, FS is too streched vertically compared to autoscale mode. Should have the same proportions instead.

How? Autoscale and FS are totally different things. FS = use "internal" resolution (which is always the same) scaled to current host resolution. Autoscale = detect "real" native display size. Width/Height ratio can be totally different in FS and autoscale modes.