Fast ATA4000-MKVII card not seen on any zorro port?

klx300r · 19 October 2021, 05:17

Tried all the slots and no go...sometimes I can boot system but my A4000 (if I remove my X-Surf100) but system still doesn't see card...usually system just doesn't want to boot at all with card installed. Don't see any jumpers all on card ?

Jpor · 20 October 2021, 02:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by klx300r

Tried all the slots and no go...sometimes I can boot system but my A4000 (if I remove my X-Surf100) but system still doesn't see card...usually system just doesn't want to boot at all with card installed. Don't see any jumpers all on card ?

Which Buster Chip version are you using on the A4K mainboard?
If it’s not a SuperBuster 11 then this maybe the cause.

klx300r · 20 October 2021, 14:14

@ JPor

Have SuperBuster 11 already since my X-Surf100 wasn’t playing nice with my A4K

Elbox support told me to clean the gold connectors but already did that more than once. Gonna try connecting it to my CRT and only having the FastATA4000 on the zorro slot…if early setup doesn’t pick it up that way then this brand new card was defective from the factory.

AmigaHope · 23 October 2021, 12:08

Buster revision shouldn't matter much since it's not a DMA card. Your card may be faulty.

Is it a matter of drives not showing up, or does the card not show up at all in the AutoConfig list? (can view in early startup, or with checkconfig, sysinfo, etc.)

klx300r · 23 October 2021, 15:16

@ AmigaHope

card…sent Elbox hi res pics the other day…they said they check each card with every PIO setting before it gets shipped out and it came well packaged …I did notice the card was really tight to get into the Zorro slots so maybe it could be a connection issue? might try sanding down the edges but let’s see what Elbox says before I start physically messing with the card as it’s brand new and under warranty.

stevelord · 23 October 2021, 18:45

In the configurations that it does do... something have you tried putting your hand above the tops of the chips to see if they're getting warm? Mine run moderately toasty.

grelbfarlk · 24 October 2021, 04:55

What I remember about my FastATA in an A4000:
I had to be careful what scsi.device patches were in the system. Otherwise I had to use a kickflash to restore a more compatible scsi.device.
The FastATA was picky about cables too.

AmigaHope · 30 October 2021, 03:31

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Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

What I remember about my FastATA in an A4000:
I had to be careful what scsi.device patches were in the system. Otherwise I had to use a kickflash to restore a more compatible scsi.device.
The FastATA was picky about cables too.

On my (much earlier revision) FastATA 4000 it would usurp scsi.device and the internal IDE connector became 2nd.scsi.device -- I was always annoyed by this and that they didn't have a separate fastata4000scsi.device or something that loaded with autoconfig.

stevelord · 30 October 2021, 12:49

On mine the fastata is 2nd.scsi.device.

klx300r · 31 October 2021, 22:55

looks mine might just be DOA? Elbox told me remove all other cards on Zorro port and try the FastATA4000 and still nothing...then they asked me to send them hi-res pics of front and back a week ago and haven't heard back as of yet..just sent them a follow up email

klx300r · 17 November 2021, 00:29

can someone please confirm that they have a FastaATA4000 MKVII card working in their A4000 with OS3.2 roms installed.

Kin Hell · 17 November 2021, 10:05

@ klx300r

Have you installed the software? - FastATA.driver has to be running before you can get into HDToolbox.

stevelord · 17 November 2021, 12:27

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Originally Posted by klx300r

can someone please confirm that they have a FastaATA4000 MKVII card working in their A4000 with OS3.2 roms installed.

Yes. I have a FastATA 4000 MK-VII Black Edition ordered from Amigastore.eu in 2019, with OS3.2 roms and OS3.2 running perfectly fine.

klx300r · 17 November 2021, 14:34

@ stevelord

great! Can you please let me know what revision your MB is and what other cards you’ve got on your Zorro bus. Also what CPU/ accelerator card?

@ Kin Hell

software and drivers installed.

Kin Hell · 17 November 2021, 17:23

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Originally Posted by klx300r

@ stevelord
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@ Kin Hell

software and drivers installed.

Was guessing already, jus checking....

Back to Elbox I guess.

stevelord · 17 November 2021, 18:24

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Originally Posted by klx300r

@ stevelord
great! Can you please let me know what revision your MB is and what other cards you’ve got on your Zorro bus. Also what CPU/ accelerator card?

It's a Rev B A4000D. On the Zorro bus are a Deneb USB controller, FastATA and ZZ9000. I've had various configurations with the FastATA on 3.2 including Thylacine, BigRamPlus and Repulse sound card.

I currently have a Cyberstorm MkII clocked at 55Mhz. Prior to that I had a tbtorro-built A3660 running at 50Mhz. The Fast-ATA was detected by either card using OS 3.2 and 3.9 Roms. HTH.

klx300r · 17 November 2021, 22:42

@ stevelord

Your system is pretty close to mine

Mine is also RevB MB with CS-MKIII and MNT VA2000/CX RTG & X-SURF100. Never had an issue with my old Buddha Flash IDE but with brand spanking new Fast ATA4000-MKVII I've had no luck so far

stevelord · 18 November 2021, 11:39

The reason I said to check chip die temperatures is that cold chips are a sign of not getting power. It's possible you have a duff slot or power rail on a slot, but then other cards wouldn't work in that slot.
If your other cards are all working solo in each slots (esp the buddha) and the only one that doesn't autoconfig is the Fastata then it's pretty clear the problem lies with the Fastata.

I'd RMA it. If they can fix it it's probably worth it. If not, then you should get a refund.

Kin Hell · 18 November 2021, 11:50

@ klx300r & stevelord

As a matter of interest, what version of 060 Libs are you guys using? - Same one or different ones?

Iirc, wasn't there an issue with some ZORRO cards & CSMKII's & III's?

stevelord · 18 November 2021, 20:53

I've used various 060 libs without issue with both Cyberstorm (MMULibs, Cyberstorm MKII libs) and A3660 (MMULibs and some random A3660-specific lib floppy image I found). 060 Libs don't affect cold-boot autoconfig.

19 October 2021, 05:17	#1
klx300r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,593	Fast ATA4000-MKVII card not seen on any zorro port? Tried all the slots and no go...sometimes I can boot system but my A4000 (if I remove my X-Surf100) but system still doesn't see card...usually system just doesn't want to boot at all with card installed. Don't see any jumpers all on card ?

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20 October 2021, 14:14	#3
klx300r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,593	@ JPor Have SuperBuster 11 already since my X-Surf100 wasn’t playing nice with my A4K Elbox support told me to clean the gold connectors but already did that more than once. Gonna try connecting it to my CRT and only having the FastATA4000 on the zorro slot…if early setup doesn’t pick it up that way then this brand new card was defective from the factory.

23 October 2021, 12:08	#4
AmigaHope Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Sandusky Posts: 942	Buster revision shouldn't matter much since it's not a DMA card. Your card may be faulty. Is it a matter of drives not showing up, or does the card not show up at all in the AutoConfig list? (can view in early startup, or with checkconfig, sysinfo, etc.)

23 October 2021, 15:16	#5
klx300r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,593	@ AmigaHope card…sent Elbox hi res pics the other day…they said they check each card with every PIO setting before it gets shipped out and it came well packaged …I did notice the card was really tight to get into the Zorro slots so maybe it could be a connection issue? might try sanding down the edges but let’s see what Elbox says before I start physically messing with the card as it’s brand new and under warranty.

23 October 2021, 18:45	#6
stevelord Registered User Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: UK Posts: 540	In the configurations that it does do... something have you tried putting your hand above the tops of the chips to see if they're getting warm? Mine run moderately toasty.

24 October 2021, 04:55	#7
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,902	What I remember about my FastATA in an A4000: I had to be careful what scsi.device patches were in the system. Otherwise I had to use a kickflash to restore a more compatible scsi.device. The FastATA was picky about cables too.

30 October 2021, 12:49	#9
stevelord Registered User Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: UK Posts: 540	On mine the fastata is 2nd.scsi.device.

31 October 2021, 22:55	#10
klx300r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,593	looks mine might just be DOA? Elbox told me remove all other cards on Zorro port and try the FastATA4000 and still nothing...then they asked me to send them hi-res pics of front and back a week ago and haven't heard back as of yet..just sent them a follow up email

17 November 2021, 00:29	#11
klx300r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,593	can someone please confirm that they have a FastaATA4000 MKVII card working in their A4000 with OS3.2 roms installed.

17 November 2021, 10:05	#12
Kin Hell 0ld0r Git Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 1,570	@ klx300r Have you installed the software? - FastATA.driver has to be running before you can get into HDToolbox.

17 November 2021, 14:34	#14
klx300r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,593	@ stevelord great! Can you please let me know what revision your MB is and what other cards you’ve got on your Zorro bus. Also what CPU/ accelerator card? @ Kin Hell software and drivers installed.

17 November 2021, 22:42	#17
klx300r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,593	@ stevelord Your system is pretty close to mine Mine is also RevB MB with CS-MKIII and MNT VA2000/CX RTG & X-SURF100. Never had an issue with my old Buddha Flash IDE but with brand spanking new Fast ATA4000-MKVII I've had no luck so far

18 November 2021, 11:39	#18
stevelord Registered User Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: UK Posts: 540	The reason I said to check chip die temperatures is that cold chips are a sign of not getting power. It's possible you have a duff slot or power rail on a slot, but then other cards wouldn't work in that slot. If your other cards are all working solo in each slots (esp the buddha) and the only one that doesn't autoconfig is the Fastata then it's pretty clear the problem lies with the Fastata. I'd RMA it. If they can fix it it's probably worth it. If not, then you should get a refund.

18 November 2021, 11:50	#19
Kin Hell 0ld0r Git Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 1,570	@ klx300r & stevelord As a matter of interest, what version of 060 Libs are you guys using? - Same one or different ones? Iirc, wasn't there an issue with some ZORRO cards & CSMKII's & III's?

18 November 2021, 20:53	#20
stevelord Registered User Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: UK Posts: 540	I've used various 060 libs without issue with both Cyberstorm (MMULibs, Cyberstorm MKII libs) and A3660 (MMULibs and some random A3660-specific lib floppy image I found). 060 Libs don't affect cold-boot autoconfig.

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