Can this be done? - Page 2

Charlie · 19 January 2008, 19:26

It's odd to think that there are requests (me too) to simulate an effect we've all (possibly) hated for years...
...at least if Toni does implement this 'feature' I'll have fewer bruises. It's been quite frustrating; banging my head on the desk & poking myself in the eyes on a regular basis.

Does this mean retro-computing is just a form of masochism..?

ancalimon · 19 January 2008, 19:33

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Originally Posted by Charlie

... banging my head on the desk & poking myself in the eyes on a regular basis.

Does this mean retro-computing is just a form of masochism..?

NLS · 19 January 2008, 21:23

well could be

also to hold huge number of GB - paying for hard disks to store games you never had back then (erm... never said that) and will never get the chance to play now

Thorham · 20 January 2008, 00:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie

It's odd to think that there are requests (me too) to simulate an effect we've all (possibly) hated for years...
...at least if Toni does implement this 'feature' I'll have fewer bruises. It's been quite frustrating; banging my head on the desk & poking myself in the eyes on a regular basis.

Does this mean retro-computing is just a form of masochism..?

As a coding guy, having nothing that resembles interlace can be frustrating, because you can't see how some things behave. And since I use a video to vga converter which also de-interlaces everything, I can't even use my real Amiga to see how some things behave. Potentially quite frustrating. For normal work not having to deal with the interlace flickering is great, however, and I wish I was like that 10-15 years ago!

NLS · 20 January 2008, 10:24

so is Toni reading any of this?

Toni Wilen · 20 January 2008, 10:51

I won't do anything interlace-related until interlace internally works. (and this is also quite pointless feature)

Thorham · 20 January 2008, 11:28

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Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

I won't do anything interlace-related until interlace internally works. (and this is also quite pointless feature)

IMHO any feature which increases an emulation's authenticity is not a useless feature. Further more, in the Amiga's case, there is actually some animation software (can't remember the name) which uses interlace to play back animations smoother by only drawing half frames. Without interlace, this type of software will not function properly! Furthermore, when writing programs which take advantage of interlace (new demos perhaps?), it's impossible to test the software under WinUae.

Just a viewpoint from someone who likes authentic emulator behavior

meynaf · 21 January 2008, 11:38

Emulating such a "feature" isn't as pointless as it looks. Someone developing with winuae (and using interlace screens, of course) might wish to know if his program flickers a lot (or not) on real hardware. Carefully chosen colors will make it flicker less, but you can't check what you can't see...

ancalimon · 09 February 2008, 03:31

So it would be semi-pointless to emulate this flickering thingy

NLS · 12 February 2008, 20:23

aaaaah... glass half-empty, half-full...

StevenJGore · 12 February 2008, 21:16

Could WinUAE also emulate the high-pitched wining noise that my Commodore 1084S monitor sometimes used to make whilst displaying interlaced modes?

A "thump monitor" option would also be good!

ancalimon · 14 February 2008, 16:37

So should there be a "Headache" option or not?

NLS · 14 February 2008, 20:37

I vote for yes (since I started the thread - duuh)...

19 January 2008, 19:26	#21
Charlie . . Mouse . . Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 55 Posts: 1,792	It's odd to think that there are requests (me too) to simulate an effect we've all (possibly) hated for years... ...at least if Toni does implement this 'feature' I'll have fewer bruises. It's been quite frustrating; banging my head on the desk & poking myself in the eyes on a regular basis. Does this mean retro-computing is just a form of masochism..?

19 January 2008, 21:23	#23
NLS Ancient User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: GREECE Age: 50 Posts: 758	well could be also to hold huge number of GB - paying for hard disks to store games you never had back then (erm... never said that) and will never get the chance to play now

20 January 2008, 10:24	#25
NLS Ancient User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: GREECE Age: 50 Posts: 758	so is Toni reading any of this?

20 January 2008, 10:51	#26
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,515	I won't do anything interlace-related until interlace internally works. (and this is also quite pointless feature)

21 January 2008, 11:38	#28
meynaf son of 68k Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lyon / France Age: 51 Posts: 5,323	Emulating such a "feature" isn't as pointless as it looks. Someone developing with winuae (and using interlace screens, of course) might wish to know if his program flickers a lot (or not) on real hardware. Carefully chosen colors will make it flicker less, but you can't check what you can't see...

09 February 2008, 03:31	#29
ancalimon Supernormal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Istanbul / Turkey Age: 43 Posts: 1,411	So it would be semi-pointless to emulate this flickering thingy

12 February 2008, 20:23	#30
NLS Ancient User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: GREECE Age: 50 Posts: 758	aaaaah... glass half-empty, half-full...

12 February 2008, 21:16	#31
StevenJGore Amiga Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: North Yorkshire, UK Age: 46 Posts: 727	Could WinUAE also emulate the high-pitched wining noise that my Commodore 1084S monitor sometimes used to make whilst displaying interlaced modes? A "thump monitor" option would also be good!

14 February 2008, 16:37	#32
ancalimon Supernormal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Istanbul / Turkey Age: 43 Posts: 1,411	So should there be a "Headache" option or not?

14 February 2008, 20:37	#33
NLS Ancient User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: GREECE Age: 50 Posts: 758	I vote for yes (since I started the thread - duuh)...

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