Alien Breed 3D 2 - The Killing Grounds

[Ironclaw]

Hi, I was thinking of playing and completing a new game and decided to go for AB3DII, but the screensize in the game is so small and I can't get it bigger even if i use the +/- on the numberpad as suggested in the manual. I checked the internet and found some sites that has screenshots of the game and in FULL screen size. How do I get it to be in full screen aswell?

Thanks.

My screenshot: www.retrogaming4ever.com/Pictures/myscreen.jpg

Other site: http://www.classicgaming.com/amigareviews/alien3d2.htm

[Steve]

Try pressing enter on the numeric keypad. This should flip the display to fullscreen. If that doesn't work you must not be using the 4mb version. Boot the game using the 4mb version to get fullscreen graphics.

[Ironclaw]

Yay, thanks Steve!

The enter key on the numeric keypad isnt even mentioned in the manual, maybe the manual only limited to the 2mb version.

Yes, of course, I only play the 4mb version , always the best.

I play the game in WinUAE on my laptop, and my laptop doesnt have a keypad, instead used the Fn key + the other assinged ke.... blaaahh... cant explain .. anyway, made backspace into the enter key and now play in fullscreen :P



edit:

ok cool, pressed the Fn key + return and it worked as the enter key on the numeric pad..

[Steve]

No problem. Good luck with the game as it's one tough mutha!

yeah, good luck! I remember I was so scared when playing this atmospehirc game!

[redblade]

I couldn't even clock the demo on the CU amiga cover disk

[vroom6sri]

I'm a bit of a novice with the Amiga emulator, would you mind telling me what settings have you selected to get this game to run and does it play nicely (quickly)? I loved the original AB3D demo on a cover disk but was dissapointed with the 1st game when it was actually released.

[DamienD]

This was in one of the threads somewhere, but couldn't find it again the other day when I searched. I've given it a try and the games runs perfectly:

One user said:
Here's my config:
RAM= chip=2, fast=8, slow=512k, z3 fast=128, rtg=16mb
CPU= 68020+fpu, adjustable cpu/chipset =1, detect idle cpu=yes, jit settings= 8mb, hard flush=no, force settings=no, const jump=yes, no flags=yes, fpu support =yes.
DISPLAY=800*600/16 bit 60 Hz, correct aspect=yes, full screen=yes, display every frame, line mode=doubled
CHIPSET=aga(obviously), collision level=sprite only, fast copper=yes
SOUND=enabled 100%=yes, freq=44.1, stereo, interpolation disabled, buffer=3, lag=0.0%.

Another user replied:
Suggestion:
Turn off fast-ram and slow-ram. Also you don´t need rtg-ram if you don´t use picasso96.
set cpu-speed to "fastest possible".
set z3-ram to 32 mb or less (otherwise windows *could* be forced to use virtual memory.

[Ironclaw]

I use 020, fastest possible, JIT, 3.1, AGA, 2 chip, 4 fast, some Z3 fast and RTG... not all are needed... but it works fine for me.. the game runs as smooth as it can on any machine I guess... 50fps flawless smoothness.
Recorded a bit, fooling around from stage 1-3: (low quality, 20mbs, 12 mins.. otherwise the file would have been like 100+mbs)


25 fps, 12 mins, low quality
A small clip, 40 sec, 5 mb, better quality

I dont understand why people play with screensize like 800x600 and game size 320x240.... it will make a black boarder... I always run in perfect resolutions.. and I NEVER use correct aspect... it mostly display pixels incorrect, and I always use Collision level=full.

Oh, and I'm quite far into the game, not much left I believe, but it's not that difficult really. I have change the controls so it works like a first person game... you know, stearing with the mouse, using w a s d to walk and strafe etc.... so I'm quick and find the game easy. (plays lots of first person games). Using the standard settings which is slow turning with the arrow keys and stuff is too slow and amateurish.

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by Ironclaw

I always use Collision level=full.

This only causes unneeded slowdown. There is currently only one known game that requires full collision

[Ironclaw]

I dont know much about collision level.. but have always had it on full and havnt had any problems .. so will keep having it at full.

[Steve]

Originally Posted by Ironclaw

I dont know much about collision level.. but have always had it on full and havnt had any problems .. so will keep having it at full.

Man, you must have a pretty fast machine. How fast is it? AB3DII runs at about half it's proper speed in fullscreen mode on my old Athlon 600. It's still fairly playable though. Have you played a game called 'Breathless'? Now that game really chugs along on my computer! lol.

Tip of the day:
A little known fact is that the pressing enter on the numeric keypad trick also works in the original Alien Breed 3D. You can lose that naff border and get a nice full screen display. This makes the game look extremely blocky though so you've been warned! It also speeds up emulation by by about 4x. The border really seems to slow that game down for some reason. At least it does on my machine.

[Ironclaw]

My laptop isnt that fast really.... but omg, u have an athlon 600?... I had that one too 1 week after it was released and for 1 year... that is really too slow for most aga games and all todays pc games... well, todays pc games requires a minimum of 1ghz to run and stuff. Just work and save up money. Winuae is quite demanding... no wonder games are slow on your computer.

My computer specs copied right of a system checking prog:

CPU typ Mobile Intel Pentium M 725, 1600 MHz (16 x 100)
Moderkortsnamn Dell Inspiron 8600
Moderkortschipset Intel Odem i855PM
Systemminne 1024 MB (PC2700 DDR SDRAM)
BIOS typ Phoenix (06/30/05)

Bildskärm:
Grafikkort ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600 PRO TURBO (128 MB)
3D accelerator ATI Mobility Radeon 9600/9700 (M10/M11)

Multimedia:
Ljudkort Intel 82801DBM ICH4-M - AC'97 Audio Controller [A-1]

Lagring:
IDE Kontroller Intel(R) 82801DBM Ultra ATA Storage Controller - 24CA
SCSI/RAID Kontroller D347PRT SCSI Controller
Hårddisk FUJITSU MHT2060AH (60 GB, 5400 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
Hårddisk Maxtor OneTouch II USB Device (189 GB, USB)
Optisk enhet Generic DVD-ROM SCSI CdRom Device
Optisk enhet SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SN-324S (DVD:8x, CD:24x/24x/24x DVD-ROM/CD-RW)
SMART Hårddiskstatus OK

Partitioner:
C: (NTFS) 57223 MB (20749 MB ledigt)
F: (FAT32) 194426 MB (6097 MB ledigt)
Total storlek 245.8 GB (26.2 GB ledigt)

Inmatningsenheter:
Tangentbord Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Mus HID-kompatibel mus
Mus PS/2-kompatibel mus
Spelkontroller Microsoft drivrutin för PC-spel

Nätverk:
Nätverkskort Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller (192.168.0....)
Nätverkskort Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
Modem

I dont bother to translate

had a 3 times faster computer before I got my laptop... really wanted a laptop so i sold my computer.. had 23000 points in 3dmark 2003 with my other comp.. only gets about 8000 with my laptop.


As the game comes with a level editor I was thinking of making my own levels, but I tried the level editor and it's so confusing so I didnt give it much time. It has lots of bugs aswell, but aminet has a patch that fixes most bugs, aminet also have another level editor, but that one is also confusing and complicated. Too bad they are not as easy as the level editor for Duke Nukem is. Would be fun to make a level with amiga characters as enemies and stuff. But I don't have the patience to learn how they work when they are so complicated.