Speedball 2 help

niMic · 11 June 2005, 04:10

Hi, I'm new to this board.

I came over this in a frantic search to be able to play Speedball 2 again. Recently a great wave of nostalgia came over me, and I instantly tried to find this game. It lead me to WinUAE, and I found a site where I got some settings for WinUAE. Problem is, I can't seem to find the actual game, Speedball 2. I found one file, but when I load the game it goes blue... and stays like that. I've searched everywhere, but I can't find any other "versions" of the game.

Can anyone help me?

Codetapper · 11 June 2005, 07:22

Yet another person that can't read the FAQ... Sigh...

CodyJarrett · 11 June 2005, 07:34

Welcome to the EAB niMic - check out the FAQ for some links to sites which host ADFs:

http://eab.abime.net/faq.php?faq=ami...aq_amiga_games

I'd suggest PlanetEmu for multiple versions of Speedball 2:

http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?s...dat=257&page=s

niMic · 11 June 2005, 13:34

Ow... Sorry for not reading the FAQ guys. I usually do it at once but yesterday I didn't think of it. It was late

Thanks for the links CodyJarret, may every noob who makes a mistake run into you ^^

CodyJarrett · 11 June 2005, 15:10

If you still can't get it working, post your config and I'll check it out.

niMic · 11 June 2005, 15:20

Yeah, I can't get it to work... No matter which version I try (well, tried 4), it either goes black or blue. It might have something to do with the kickstart (as if I understand anything about that, I just downloaded something), but the emulator worked for one thing (not a game, seemed like some kind of test thingy).

I attached my config.

CodyJarrett · 11 June 2005, 15:34

Can you try enabled 'Cycle Exact CPU and Blitter' in the Chipset section of the WinUAE config?

And are you using the latest download of WinUAE?

niMic · 11 June 2005, 15:49

I assume I'm using the latest version, I got it off the WinUAE site.

Edit: That didn't work either :\

11 June 2005, 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by niMic

I found a site where I got some settings for WinUAE.

There is a QUICKSTART tab with BUILT IN AMIGA 500 CONFIGURATIONS in winuae 1.0. They are included to help new users unless they are used to be spoonfed.

I'm almost sure the configs you found were made for ancient versions of winuae. Use the A500 config in the quickstart tab, if the problems continue, feel free to post here. Until then, this case closed.

niMic · 11 June 2005, 16:22

>.<

Tell me what I'm doing wrong, I'm obviously stupid...

11 June 2005, 16:28

Nothing, you're exactly at the right place but the config you attached was not from the quickstart. Now if I were you I would move the compatibility slider to further left and try that way. Good luck.

niMic · 11 June 2005, 16:37

Ok.. so I didn't load the old config, I moved the compatibility slider and I tried all my 5 speedball 2 versions. Still various sorts of black-screens. Might it have something to do with my kickstart 1.3? If so, where can I download the correct one?

CodyJarrett · 11 June 2005, 16:42

Are you using an ADF that you downloaded from PlanetEmu? If so, what's the filename?

niMic · 11 June 2005, 16:46

You're talking about the Speedball 2 ADF, right? If so, they (I downloaded several) are
Speedball 2 - Brutal Deluxe (1990)(ImageWorks)[cr CLS - RZR][a2].adf
Speedball 2 - Brutal Deluxe (1990)(ImageWorks)[cr CSL][a2].adf
Speedball 2 - Brutal Deluxe (1990)(ImageWorks)[cr CSL][f Ministry].adf
Speedball 2 - Brutal Deluxe (1990)(ImageWorks)[cr CSL][t +5 Betrayal].adf

niMic · 13 June 2005, 20:44

I wasn't really finished here, guys. ^^

andreas · 13 June 2005, 23:02

For Kangoo, I had created a config for a fairly old machine: an A500 with OCS Agnus and only one drive.
It can be found in this thread.
Please give this one a try.

And please tell us the WinUAE version you use; in particular, sites in foreign languages still offer "new WinUAE versions" which are in fact 0.8.xx versions (yes I have seen this many times)

[edit] OK, now I can even reproduce your "blue screens".
Please look whether the kickstart ROM you specified in your path (D:\Amiga\WinUAE\Roms\Kick13.rom) EXISTS!
The blue screen comes up because WinUAE tries to boot the game WITHOUT a kickstart! (and fails)
It might be that you miss some WinUAE error messages in full-screen-mode. Go into Display options and uncheck the 'Full-Screen' box. If you try the same procedure again now, you might get an error message if the Kickstart was not found.
Also test whether your kickstart is 100% OK by booting the "Amiga" WITHOUT a disk image inserted! If you see a hand holding a workbench, everything is OK!

niMic · 14 June 2005, 02:27

I think my problem lies with the Kickstart... When I try to start without anything in the Disk Drive DF0, I get "You need to have a diskfile in DF0 to use the kickstart replacement" So, yeah, I think my problem is with the kickstart.

Btw, where did you get that path from?

14 June 2005, 02:55

You need to have a kickstart 1.3 rom, not a replacement adf for this game to work. You need to tell winuae where it is from the ROMs tab.

Chuckles · 14 June 2005, 06:17

If you used the installer to install WinUAE after downloading the latest version from the official WinUAE web site, then it should have set up a set of paths to a number of different directories where it looks for the Kickstart roms, among other things. Those paths can be viewed and changed on the "Paths" page in the GUI (imagine that!). If your Kickstart roms are anywhere other than in the directory listed on that page, you can simply copy them to that directory and click on the "Rescan ROMS" button to enable WinUAE to find them. If you have an existing config file that points to the roms in some other location, you may need to change that separately in the ROMS page after loading that config, but simply putting the roms where WinUAE expects to find them and rescanning should allow the Quickstart configs to work, I think. Hope this helps.

niMic · 14 June 2005, 16:42

Yeah, I guess that was it. God I'm dumb :P Well, thanks to everyone for the help, I would never have made it on my own ^^

EDIT: I found the answer to my two last questions ^^

11 June 2005, 04:10	#1
niMic Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway Age: 37 Posts: 10	Speedball 2 help Hi, I'm new to this board. I came over this in a frantic search to be able to play Speedball 2 again. Recently a great wave of nostalgia came over me, and I instantly tried to find this game. It lead me to WinUAE, and I found a site where I got some settings for WinUAE. Problem is, I can't seem to find the actual game, Speedball 2. I found one file, but when I load the game it goes blue... and stays like that. I've searched everywhere, but I can't find any other "versions" of the game. Can anyone help me?

11 June 2005, 15:49	#8
niMic Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway Age: 37 Posts: 10	I assume I'm using the latest version, I got it off the WinUAE site. Edit: That didn't work either :\ Last edited by niMic; 11 June 2005 at 15:55.

11 June 2005, 16:22	#10
niMic Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway Age: 37 Posts: 10	>.< Tell me what I'm doing wrong, I'm obviously stupid... Attached Thumbnails

13 June 2005, 23:02	#16
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	For Kangoo, I had created a config for a fairly old machine: an A500 with OCS Agnus and only one drive. It can be found in this thread. Please give this one a try. And please tell us the WinUAE version you use; in particular, sites in foreign languages still offer "new WinUAE versions" which are in fact 0.8.xx versions (yes I have seen this many times) [edit] OK, now I can even reproduce your "blue screens". Please look whether the kickstart ROM you specified in your path (D:\Amiga\WinUAE\Roms\Kick13.rom) EXISTS! The blue screen comes up because WinUAE tries to boot the game WITHOUT a kickstart! (and fails) It might be that you miss some WinUAE error messages in full-screen-mode. Go into Display options and uncheck the 'Full-Screen' box. If you try the same procedure again now, you might get an error message if the Kickstart was not found. Also test whether your kickstart is 100% OK by booting the "Amiga" WITHOUT a disk image inserted! If you see a hand holding a workbench, everything is OK! Last edited by andreas; 13 June 2005 at 23:27.

14 June 2005, 02:55	#18
oldpx Posts: n/a	You need to have a kickstart 1.3 rom, not a replacement adf for this game to work. You need to tell winuae where it is from the ROMs tab. Last edited by oldpx; 15 June 2005 at 03:21.

11 June 2005, 07:22	#2
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,187	Yet another person that can't read the FAQ... Sigh...

11 June 2005, 07:34	#3
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,166	Welcome to the EAB niMic - check out the FAQ for some links to sites which host ADFs: http://eab.abime.net/faq.php?faq=ami...aq_amiga_games I'd suggest PlanetEmu for multiple versions of Speedball 2: http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?s...dat=257&page=s

11 June 2005, 13:34	#4
niMic Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway Age: 37 Posts: 10	Ow... Sorry for not reading the FAQ guys. I usually do it at once but yesterday I didn't think of it. It was late Thanks for the links CodyJarret, may every noob who makes a mistake run into you ^^

11 June 2005, 15:10	#5
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,166	If you still can't get it working, post your config and I'll check it out.

11 June 2005, 15:34	#7
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,166	Can you try enabled 'Cycle Exact CPU and Blitter' in the Chipset section of the WinUAE config? And are you using the latest download of WinUAE?

11 June 2005, 16:28	#11
oldpx Posts: n/a	Nothing, you're exactly at the right place but the config you attached was not from the quickstart. Now if I were you I would move the compatibility slider to further left and try that way. Good luck.

11 June 2005, 16:37	#12
niMic Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway Age: 37 Posts: 10	Ok.. so I didn't load the old config, I moved the compatibility slider and I tried all my 5 speedball 2 versions. Still various sorts of black-screens. Might it have something to do with my kickstart 1.3? If so, where can I download the correct one?

11 June 2005, 16:42	#13
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,166	Are you using an ADF that you downloaded from PlanetEmu? If so, what's the filename?

11 June 2005, 16:46	#14
niMic Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway Age: 37 Posts: 10	You're talking about the Speedball 2 ADF, right? If so, they (I downloaded several) are Speedball 2 - Brutal Deluxe (1990)(ImageWorks)[cr CLS - RZR][a2].adf Speedball 2 - Brutal Deluxe (1990)(ImageWorks)[cr CSL][a2].adf Speedball 2 - Brutal Deluxe (1990)(ImageWorks)[cr CSL][f Ministry].adf Speedball 2 - Brutal Deluxe (1990)(ImageWorks)[cr CSL][t +5 Betrayal].adf

13 June 2005, 20:44	#15
niMic Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway Age: 37 Posts: 10	I wasn't really finished here, guys. ^^

14 June 2005, 02:27	#17
niMic Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway Age: 37 Posts: 10	I think my problem lies with the Kickstart... When I try to start without anything in the Disk Drive DF0, I get "You need to have a diskfile in DF0 to use the kickstart replacement" So, yeah, I think my problem is with the kickstart. Btw, where did you get that path from?

14 June 2005, 06:17	#19
Chuckles The Ancient One Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Kansas City/USA Age: 69 Posts: 685	If you used the installer to install WinUAE after downloading the latest version from the official WinUAE web site, then it should have set up a set of paths to a number of different directories where it looks for the Kickstart roms, among other things. Those paths can be viewed and changed on the "Paths" page in the GUI (imagine that!). If your Kickstart roms are anywhere other than in the directory listed on that page, you can simply copy them to that directory and click on the "Rescan ROMS" button to enable WinUAE to find them. If you have an existing config file that points to the roms in some other location, you may need to change that separately in the ROMS page after loading that config, but simply putting the roms where WinUAE expects to find them and rescanning should allow the Quickstart configs to work, I think. Hope this helps.

14 June 2005, 16:42	#20
niMic Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway Age: 37 Posts: 10	Yeah, I guess that was it. God I'm dumb :P Well, thanks to everyone for the help, I would never have made it on my own ^^ EDIT: I found the answer to my two last questions ^^ Last edited by niMic; 14 June 2005 at 16:55.

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