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Old 22 June 2008, 15:57   #1
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Squirrel Issues

Hello All,

I've recently picked up a Squirrel PCMCIA SCSI card from my good friend DoogUK,

Got a few issues with it using my A1200 with Classic WB Full 3.1 & a SCSI CDROM ID=6
I should add the A1200 currently has KS3.0 ROMS.

Downloaded & used the squirrel install dms from Amiga Resource.
With the card removed system boots up in usual time from CF and all is fine. With Squirrel inserted & no CD in the drive, The system take ages to Boot & you can hear the CDROM drive being reset. Inserting a CD the A1200 reads the CD fine esp now I've adapted Cachecdfs from OS3.5 in place of the CDFilesystem. Altered Tooltypes in CD0 to reflect squirrel & ID=6
Is this long bootup tiime normal?

Secondly I can't get the CD32 Emulator to run at all even with a CD32 CD in the Drive during Boot / reset. Even making the squirrel bootfloppy.
Does the startup-sequence need modifying or am i missing something else.

Finally does anyone have a MANUAL they could please upload to the zone for me.

Your advice is really appreciated chaps.

TC
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Old 22 June 2008, 18:24   #2
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Boot time does get halted while the scsi driver scans for drives. I dont remember any specific issues with the cd32 emu. It may be that you need to setup the drives with cd.device instead of squirrelscsi.device, but I would have thaught the boot floppy installer would do that for you ..hmm.
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Old 22 June 2008, 19:40   #3
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Cheers Matt,

Nice to know the delay is normal,

By adding a 4 Second wait on the boot floppy's CD32-Startup sequence after the device is loaded I can now boot CD32 Games from floppy,
I now change my CD0 file to reflect cd.device rather than squirrelscsi.device, force of habit.

Thx

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Old 22 June 2008, 19:57   #4
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Tut tut Bas, i told you to feed it more hazlenuts to get it to do what you want.

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Old 22 June 2008, 20:16   #5
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Tut tut Bas, i told you to feed it more hazlenuts to get it to do what you want.

Doogie LOL

It's sorted now.....
Changed CD0 to cd.device, added 4 second delay to CD32-Startup & noticed the installer had inserted the CD32-Startup call after Classic WB Check RMB routine,

Therefore
IF no CD inserted & RMB pressed Boot Classic WB lean startup
IF CD inserted & RMB pressed CD32 emulator Boots the CD.

Wahay

Now does anyone have the Manual please Gents.............

Thanks all

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Old 22 June 2008, 23:12   #6
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Now does anyone have the Manual please Gents.............

Thanks all

TC
I did have until earlier today - sold mine on the bay and it was collected this afternoon

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Old 22 June 2008, 23:18   #7
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I did have until earlier today - sold mine on the bay and it was collected this afternoon

Dave G

Ah Dave man, why rub it in

Anyone else can Help

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Old 23 June 2008, 00:12   #8
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This is what it looked like



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Old 23 June 2008, 09:44   #9
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I'll scan mine later if I have time - might take a few days though...
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Old 23 June 2008, 11:01   #10
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Galaxy,

That would be very kind & much appreciated.

Thanks

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Old 23 June 2008, 13:23   #11
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Ok, it's scanned and compiled as a pdf and available from the Zone.
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Old 23 June 2008, 13:41   #12
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@Galaxy,

That was really quick!!!

I thank you very much and I'm downloading now..

@Davideo

Nows your chance to read it if you didn't before

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Old 23 June 2008, 13:50   #13
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I've had plenty of practice scanning things...

Hope it answers whatever questions you had.

And if the BBoAH or Amiga Hardware Resource guys are reading this and want to grab if for their databases then please do - this sort of information should be kept in a permanently accessible archive.
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Nows your chance to read it if you didn't before

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heres a small tip i found, make your scsi id numbers as low as poss and if you attach more than1 device make them consecutive, haven`t used my Squirrel 4 ages and when i did i never tried 32 emulation as cd`s seemed to work without it, could be wrong as it been long time since, any how hope is all Squirrellly fantasicilly with it
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Old 23 June 2008, 23:21   #16
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heres a small tip i found, make your scsi id numbers as low as poss and if you attach more than1 device make them consecutive, haven`t used my Squirrel 4 ages and when i did i never tried 32 emulation as cd`s seemed to work without it, could be wrong as it been long time since, any how hope is all Squirrellly fantasicilly with it
Cheers for the tip cf, I suppose the logic in low ID number means the device is found quicker, but I think it still scans the bus from 0 through to 6
My CD drive is setup using the cd.device driver with unit=0 which reading the manual kindly supplied by Galaxy is a redirection to squirrelscsi.device but reuired for better CD32 Emulation.

I'm really happy with it the delay at bootup while it's scanning is annoying but with the card removed my Miggy reverts back to her old self. Overall though quite impressed with the performance considering it's PCMCIA.

Yep I like Squirrels, they don't cost much in nuts either.

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Old 24 June 2008, 00:14   #17
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@TC

If I remember right in the start-sequence of my Miggy when the Squirrel was fitted were a few lines to load up the Squirrel devices. These lines scanned for each SCSI id individually.

In other words have you looked in your startup-sequence and removed the scan for the units you're not using?

Could speed up the process slightly

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the bootup time with a scsi.squirrel attatched is approx 30sec.

(thats if you can catch the little bugger before you put the boot in)
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Old 24 June 2008, 21:07   #19
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the bootup time with a scsi.squirrel attatched is approx 30sec.

(thats if you can catch the little bugger before you put the boot in)

@Twizzle Excellent mate, Just what I was after another time to compare with, It's about 23 Seconds for me.

Thanks very much

@davideo

Cheers for the tip mate

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The pause during boot is normal - this happens with any SCSI controller (including ones attached to PCs) while the attached devices are polled and registered.
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