Amiga Browser

[attila06]

Hello,

I would like to know if some of you are browsing the web with Netsurf, on their "classic" (amiga+graphic card) , which amiga and config they use and how does it run.

Thanks.

[Retrofan]

Hehe. Good question. First time I use it (today) with my desktop A1200 BPPC&BVision and OS3.9. It doesn't go very fast, less than IBrowse of course, and ... I've got a DEEP YELLOW filter just opening it.

[attila06]

Nice config Retrofan,

I asked this question to know if it's worth or not buying graphic card and others for networking with Netsurf ? (for an amigfan )
It doesn't go very fast with a PPC ...and you' ve got a yellow filter, hoping you will solve this problem.
Hold us informed.

[arti]

@Retrofan

Do you use 16bit?
It was broken but is fixed for the next version.

[Retrofan]

Originally Posted by arti

@Retrofan

Do you use 16bit?
It was broken but is fixed for the next version.

No, this is with 24 bit. When and where can I try a new version?

[arti]

I've created quickly a webpage for development builds:

http://ami-soft.blogspot.com/

[Retrofan]

That's fast man!. I will try it and tell

Edit: It is yellow with 24bit and likes to hang (but right colors) with 16bit. I only could open Amigans; with EAB it hangs, and it wasn't hanging with the previous version (I didn't try 16bit).

[arti]

24bit wasn't fixed only 16bit.

Can you run ns from shell with -v (enter ns folder) and send output ?

Edit: I updated exe with which I can browse this thread (couldn't before).

[Retrofan]

Originally Posted by arti

24bit wasn't fixed only 16bit.

Can you run ns from shell with -v (enter ns folder) and send output ?

Edit: I updated exe with which I can browse this thread (couldn't before).

Sorry I would preffer to use 24bit. It runs with 16bit now, but very slowly, and what ns folder, where?

[arti]

ns means netsurf. Does it still crash on eab with new exe?

[Retrofan]

The thing is that it works clicking on it with 24bit (yellow and slow). With 16bit it works clicking on it (the fast links I see with an screen 800x600), but introducing http://eab.abime.net/ doesn't work. Also, trying to use Del introduces a simbol instead, so I can only use the left arrow to delete. And from shell doesn't open any web with -v. This is the report with 16bit and -v:

[arti]

Open shell, type cd "sys:internet/netsurf" or where you have netsurf installed.
Run netsurf -v, go to eab and then send report.

[Retrofan]

Ok, yesterday I thought it coudn't open it, but it does after a time. I've came to this thread with Netsurf 16bit. Instead of introducing the address I've searched English Amiga Board with the Google search, and entered there.
BTW can't you do the same changes you did to use 24bit instead?

Attached the report, this saved as Styles instead of plain text. You can open it with wordpad.

[bubbob42]

On my A4k, it stops right there:

netsurf -v
(0.000045) desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 158: version '3.0 (Dev)'
(0.018215) desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 165: NetSurf on <AmigaOS>, node <hamiller>, release <unknown>, version <45.57>, machine <m68k>
(0.035757) desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 167: Using 'PROGDIR:Resources/Options' for Options file
(0.081085) utils/messages.c messages_load 124: Loading Messages from 'PROGDIR:Resources/messages'
(0.196042) image/image_cache.c image_cache_init 380: Image cache initilised with a limit of 524288 hysteresis of 104857
(0.218796) content/fetchers/curl.c fetch_curl_register 167: curl_version libcurl/7.28.0 OpenSSL/1.0.0a zlib/1.2.7
(0.619308) utils/useragent.c user_agent_build_string 68: Built user agent "NetSurf/3.0 (AmigaOS)"
(0.632206) content/fetchers/curl.c fetch_curl_register 213: ca_bundle: 'PROGDIR:Resources/ca-bundle'
(0.642145) content/fetchers/curl.c fetch_curl_register 217: ca_path: 'PROGDIR:Resources/'
(0.655724) content/fetchers/curl.c fetch_curl_register 229: cURL linked against openssl
(0.665052) content/fetchers/curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 286: Initialise cURL fetcher for http
(0.677328) content/fetchers/curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 286: Initialise cURL fetcher for https
(0.686216) content/fetchers/data.c fetch_data_initialise 65: fetch_data_initialise called for data
(0.938036) content/llcache.c llcache_initialise 2287: llcache initialised with a limit of 1572864 bytes
(0.949496) amigaos3/gui.c process_cmdline 461: argc 1, argv 0x8ceb1c0
Unable to init SDL: Bug in BestCModeIDTags Found use 16 bit screen fallback 

(1.007066) framebuffer/framebuffer.c framebuffer_initialise 412: Unable to initialise nsfb surface

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P96, Radeon 9200 - both 16 and 32bit modes are available.

[Retrofan]

EAB takes an eternity to open. I've made a bad video with my mobile, and uploaded from it. Low quality though, but I'm using AmiKit with my BPPC/BVision:

[ Show youtube player ]

[arti]

I've updated exe.
On WinUAE without JIT EAB loaded in 24 sec. Was about 40.
Is it faster on Amiga ?

http://ami-soft.blogspot.com/

[Retrofan]

No, it isn't now with the new. . I don't know if 24 or 40, but it was very slow.

[arti]

What about now. I used smaller sized fonts.
Can you post results ?
Loading time is on the down left corner.

[Retrofan]

Ups. I can't right now. I'm waiting for a new PSU. Surely somebody can

Surely it can be tried under emulation too, I should try.

[arti]

Originally Posted by bubbob42

On my A4k, it stops right there:

netsurf -v
(0.000045) desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 158: version '3.0 (Dev)'
(0.018215) desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 165: NetSurf on <AmigaOS>, node <hamiller>, release <unknown>, version <45.57>, machine <m68k>
(0.035757) desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 167: Using 'PROGDIR:Resources/Options' for Options file
(0.081085) utils/messages.c messages_load 124: Loading Messages from 'PROGDIR:Resources/messages'
(0.196042) image/image_cache.c image_cache_init 380: Image cache initilised with a limit of 524288 hysteresis of 104857
(0.218796) content/fetchers/curl.c fetch_curl_register 167: curl_version libcurl/7.28.0 OpenSSL/1.0.0a zlib/1.2.7
(0.619308) utils/useragent.c user_agent_build_string 68: Built user agent "NetSurf/3.0 (AmigaOS)"
(0.632206) content/fetchers/curl.c fetch_curl_register 213: ca_bundle: 'PROGDIR:Resources/ca-bundle'
(0.642145) content/fetchers/curl.c fetch_curl_register 217: ca_path: 'PROGDIR:Resources/'
(0.655724) content/fetchers/curl.c fetch_curl_register 229: cURL linked against openssl
(0.665052) content/fetchers/curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 286: Initialise cURL fetcher for http
(0.677328) content/fetchers/curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 286: Initialise cURL fetcher for https
(0.686216) content/fetchers/data.c fetch_data_initialise 65: fetch_data_initialise called for data
(0.938036) content/llcache.c llcache_initialise 2287: llcache initialised with a limit of 1572864 bytes
(0.949496) amigaos3/gui.c process_cmdline 461: argc 1, argv 0x8ceb1c0
Unable to init SDL: Bug in BestCModeIDTags Found use 16 bit screen fallback 

(1.007066) framebuffer/framebuffer.c framebuffer_initialise 412: Unable to initialise nsfb surface

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P96, Radeon 9200 - both 16 and 32bit modes are available.

Hm, looks like SDL doesn't like your card.