Using a Compact Flash card on a600/a1200 IDE - Page 2

Zetr0 · 30 August 2006, 13:13

hmmmmmm very peculiar...

i think it might be a good idea if we had a sticky about CF in general including setups both IDE and PCMCIA (with tools)

this could also include a lit of supported CF cards and Adapters.

what say you oh global monitors!?

(just making sure bippym is reading.... *captive* ) *hehhe* its like a magic word...

i can help with some docs for it, i would also like to get thomas and you *loopos2000* involved as well

now what could we call it... Sticky CF or CF Sticky!? hmmm i know we could have a wiki - sticky

)

lopos2000 · 30 August 2006, 13:30

I think it's a good idea to have a 'CF Sticky'. More and more people are using a CF adapter nowadays as they very cheap and easy to transfer data between computers.

Crown · 31 August 2006, 10:28

I agree.

Smiley · 02 September 2006, 19:56

My new 44pin adapter works fine and I can now boot to wb 2.1 on my 1gb cf card .

I believe the problem is with CF>IDE adapters that configure the CF card as removable media rather than an actual HardDrive.

astuermer · 07 September 2006, 18:44

I've bought such an adapter too...

Due to it's standard HD power-connector (no small one) I hope it works without problems in my A3000. I currently have one 1GB SCSI Harddisk and one 2GB IDE Harddisk on a BuddhaIDE running inside.

Is it possible to boot from a CF Card and don't use Harddisks anymore?

Best regards
Andreas

Zetr0 · 07 September 2006, 19:27

yes it is, i do it all the time... boot times are awsome.. (taking into account the delay of 3.1 rom startup)

I even have my winuae run from a amiga hd formatted CF card so i can plug it into the real thing whenever i want and then into the laptop via pcmcia

)

astuermer · 11 September 2006, 21:29

Erm, that means - If I run a bootable CF card in my Amiga I can plug it out and use it under WinUAE on a PCMCIA slot?

Zetr0 · 12 September 2006, 00:43

yes it does indeed,

winUAE sees it as an amiga formatted HD so away it works

) *whoot*

easy to setup and even easyier to take to and fro...

OR if you want to you could use IDE

Olecranon · 12 September 2006, 00:59

Anyone know a place where I can purchase an internal IDE adapter for an A500? This would work great in an A500

Zetr0 · 12 September 2006, 11:18

i belive all you can get is the side-car version...

something like this
http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showha...cgi?HARDID=522

or if you can get one of these.
http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showha...cgi?HARDID=557

both of these can be moddified to work with a IDE-CF adapter and hence a CF card.

there are others methods, but they are generally considered exotic, rear and or expensive.

musashi5150 · 12 September 2006, 11:30

Sometimes there are internal ICD kits for A500 that plug into CPU slot. I've seen these on eBay, so they can't be 'that' rare.

Zetr0 · 12 September 2006, 16:11

thats true, (thanks musashi5150) i had complete forgot about the DKB, that allows for IDE, a couple have appeared on ebay of late and sold arround the £20 mark...

gizmomelb · 12 September 2006, 17:46

just a note on CF cards, I've got a 512MB ADATA 80X card which works fine.

gizmomelb · 12 September 2006, 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smiley

SUCCESS!

Zero I recieved you stuff this morning. Went through testing and I found out it was the adapter which was not working corretly! I formatted and installed workbench 2.1 onto my 1gb CF card no problems through your adapter.

I will ship it all back to you today, seeing as im pretty much finished with it now.

I will take pictures of both adapters to see if anyone can spot the difference between them. The non-working card works on my PC but not on my Amiga.

Lets hope my 44pin adapter I ordered works ok. (Attached pictures of it)

Hi Smiley,

yours appears to need power supplied to it, whereas the pics of the one on the right do not (I have a similar one, it does not need external power from a floppy drive connector).

Smiley · 12 September 2006, 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by gizmomelb

Hi Smiley,

yours appears to need power supplied to it, whereas the pics of the one on the right do not (I have a similar one, it does not need external power from a floppy drive connector).

They both need power as they are 3.5" adapters......The power adapter on the 2nd one is on the other side.

Anyway my 44pin adapter (shown) works fine.

I believe non-working adapters are ones that configure as removable media rather than an actual IDE hard drive.

ElectroBlaster · 22 September 2006, 18:05

Check this out, I just found this on ebay. Reckon it will work guys?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-side-Compact...QQcmdZViewItem

If it does then dual 1gig flash cards would be smart

Zetr0 · 22 September 2006, 19:25

yepo that will work as i have one of them on an amiga mobo at present for testing OS builds

its okay, one must remember that its the only device on a channel so you cannot follow it by attaching a ROM or something, as this would have to goto the secondary channel. (this is of course if you have the secondary ide-cf adpater slot with a media in)

still its pretty darn cool... a el-cheapo 128MB boot drive coupled with a nice 8GB drive (or better

)

heroicnonsense · 23 September 2006, 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olecranon

Anyone know a place where I can purchase an internal IDE adapter for an A500? This would work great in an A500

There's one on eBay now (and no, it's not my auction so i'm not spamming my own links

)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alfa-Data-Alfa...QQcmdZViewItem

EDIT: Whoops! Sorry, this is RAM only; no IDE controllers

EDIT2: This seems to be the right one for you though: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AMIGA-500-XP-S...QQcmdZViewItem

Zetr0 · 23 September 2006, 13:45

can these two items be bolted together on an A500 ?

ElectroBlaster · 23 September 2006, 16:46

But this will allow two cards plugged in yes?
I wont be bothering with cd drives after this lot, I have rebuilt a really nice basic 1200 and im currently thinking where can this flash adaptor sit and still look normal in the case

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30 August 2006, 13:13	#21
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	hmmmmmm very peculiar... i think it might be a good idea if we had a sticky about CF in general including setups both IDE and PCMCIA (with tools) this could also include a lit of supported CF cards and Adapters. what say you oh global monitors!? (just making sure bippym is reading.... captive ) hehhe its like a magic word... i can help with some docs for it, i would also like to get thomas and you loopos2000 involved as well now what could we call it... Sticky CF or CF Sticky!? hmmm i know we could have a wiki - sticky )

30 August 2006, 13:30	#22
lopos2000 Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cider is best In The West Posts: 1,238	I think it's a good idea to have a 'CF Sticky'. More and more people are using a CF adapter nowadays as they very cheap and easy to transfer data between computers.

31 August 2006, 10:28	#23
Crown Demoscener Join Date: May 2006 Location: FR Age: 54 Posts: 459	I agree.

02 September 2006, 19:56	#24
Smiley Amiga-less! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,350	My new 44pin adapter works fine and I can now boot to wb 2.1 on my 1gb cf card . I believe the problem is with CF>IDE adapters that configure the CF card as removable media rather than an actual HardDrive.

07 September 2006, 18:44	#25
astuermer Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Austria Age: 45 Posts: 117	I've bought such an adapter too... Due to it's standard HD power-connector (no small one) I hope it works without problems in my A3000. I currently have one 1GB SCSI Harddisk and one 2GB IDE Harddisk on a BuddhaIDE running inside. Is it possible to boot from a CF Card and don't use Harddisks anymore? Best regards Andreas

07 September 2006, 19:27	#26
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	yes it is, i do it all the time... boot times are awsome.. (taking into account the delay of 3.1 rom startup) I even have my winuae run from a amiga hd formatted CF card so i can plug it into the real thing whenever i want and then into the laptop via pcmcia )

11 September 2006, 21:29	#27
astuermer Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Austria Age: 45 Posts: 117	Erm, that means - If I run a bootable CF card in my Amiga I can plug it out and use it under WinUAE on a PCMCIA slot?

12 September 2006, 00:43	#28
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	yes it does indeed, winUAE sees it as an amiga formatted HD so away it works ) whoot easy to setup and even easyier to take to and fro... OR if you want to you could use IDE

12 September 2006, 00:59	#29
Olecranon Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wisconsin - USA Age: 56 Posts: 86	Anyone know a place where I can purchase an internal IDE adapter for an A500? This would work great in an A500

12 September 2006, 11:18	#30
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	i belive all you can get is the side-car version... something like this http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showha...cgi?HARDID=522 or if you can get one of these. http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showha...cgi?HARDID=557 both of these can be moddified to work with a IDE-CF adapter and hence a CF card. there are others methods, but they are generally considered exotic, rear and or expensive.

12 September 2006, 11:30	#31
musashi5150 move.w #$4489,$dff07e Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolk, UK Age: 42 Posts: 2,351	Sometimes there are internal ICD kits for A500 that plug into CPU slot. I've seen these on eBay, so they can't be 'that' rare.

12 September 2006, 16:11	#32
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	thats true, (thanks musashi5150) i had complete forgot about the DKB, that allows for IDE, a couple have appeared on ebay of late and sold arround the £20 mark...

12 September 2006, 17:46	#33
gizmomelb Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: melbourne Age: 55 Posts: 541	just a note on CF cards, I've got a 512MB ADATA 80X card which works fine.

22 September 2006, 18:05	#36
ElectroBlaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 49 Posts: 1,705	Check this out, I just found this on ebay. Reckon it will work guys? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-side-Compact...QQcmdZViewItem If it does then dual 1gig flash cards would be smart

22 September 2006, 19:25	#37
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	yepo that will work as i have one of them on an amiga mobo at present for testing OS builds its okay, one must remember that its the only device on a channel so you cannot follow it by attaching a ROM or something, as this would have to goto the secondary channel. (this is of course if you have the secondary ide-cf adpater slot with a media in) still its pretty darn cool... a el-cheapo 128MB boot drive coupled with a nice 8GB drive (or better )

23 September 2006, 13:45	#39
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	can these two items be bolted together on an A500 ?

23 September 2006, 16:46	#40
ElectroBlaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 49 Posts: 1,705	But this will allow two cards plugged in yes? I wont be bothering with cd drives after this lot, I have rebuilt a really nice basic 1200 and im currently thinking where can this flash adaptor sit and still look normal in the case

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