Is It Possible To Change PPC CPU?

CU_AMiGA · 11 September 2006, 03:30

Hello

Is it possible at all to change the 603e CPU in the BPPC for maybe a 604e/G3? Is it possible to make it happen?

Regards

keropi · 11 September 2006, 06:45

eeeeerrrrmmmmmm...... I don't know how to say it to you.... eerrrrmm.....
No way Jose.

serioulsy it is not possible....

Secret Vampire · 11 September 2006, 08:51

In theory, if you could find a faster 603e you could replace it, but you'd need BGA rework equipment to do so (maybe Amiga repair center would do it?) and the gains would be small, the fastest you're likely to find is a 300MHz one from a PowerMac 6500. Cyberstorm PPCs are more interesting, Apple provided a 350MHz 604e in the 9600, which again would require BGA rework to exchange, but does at least offer a decent jump in performance from a 233MHz one, though the power requirements and heat output at that speed are likely to pose a challenge.

alewis · 11 September 2006, 15:00

Frankly, it really isn't worth it.

The first question is why? I'll go on a limb and say it is to improve the speed of an application or game. The answer to that is to completely change hardware, ie use a PC. Its hard to admit this, but after 20 years I am going to; there is nothing the Amiga can do that the PC cannot do faster. (ok, other than boot up, or write to a floppy whilst doing something else).

The technology is now just too old. I guess a comparison would be liking WinNT on a PPro200/512. The only way to go faster would be to use either the rare 1mb cache version - with probably no discernable increase - or the ultra-rare 333MHz overdrive solution... at which point one might as well invest an equal sum into a "give-way" PII or PIII solution.

DDNI · 27 September 2006, 17:24

Guys can any Phase5 ppc 68040 cards be upgraded to 68060?

AMIGAZ · 27 September 2006, 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDNI

Guys can any Phase5 ppc 68040 cards be upgraded to 68060?

yup, 99.99% positive
Since the pin layout is the same but they run at different voltage

DDNI · 27 September 2006, 17:33

hmm... simple job for JJB at Amiga Repair Centre France?

Do you know if the 68040 is socketed or soldered to the board?

AMIGAZ · 27 September 2006, 19:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDNI

hmm... simple job for JJB at Amiga Repair Centre France?

Do you know if the 68040 is socketed or soldered to the board?

If it's a Blizzard PPC it's not socketed, that's all I know
JJ at Amiga Center can upgrade '040 cards to '060
I'm thinking of sending my Cyberstorm MKII '040 to him to perform an upgrade

11 September 2006, 03:30	#1
CU_AMiGA Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Exeter Age: 39 Posts: 970	Is It Possible To Change PPC CPU? Hello Is it possible at all to change the 603e CPU in the BPPC for maybe a 604e/G3? Is it possible to make it happen? Regards

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11 September 2006, 06:45	#2
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	eeeeerrrrmmmmmm...... I don't know how to say it to you.... eerrrrmm..... No way Jose. serioulsy it is not possible....

11 September 2006, 08:51	#3
Secret Vampire Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Birmingham UK Age: 43 Posts: 214	In theory, if you could find a faster 603e you could replace it, but you'd need BGA rework equipment to do so (maybe Amiga repair center would do it?) and the gains would be small, the fastest you're likely to find is a 300MHz one from a PowerMac 6500. Cyberstorm PPCs are more interesting, Apple provided a 350MHz 604e in the 9600, which again would require BGA rework to exchange, but does at least offer a decent jump in performance from a 233MHz one, though the power requirements and heat output at that speed are likely to pose a challenge.

11 September 2006, 15:00	#4
alewis Monochrome and 8 bit Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Underbarrow, Gods Country Age: 57 Posts: 600	Frankly, it really isn't worth it. The first question is why? I'll go on a limb and say it is to improve the speed of an application or game. The answer to that is to completely change hardware, ie use a PC. Its hard to admit this, but after 20 years I am going to; there is nothing the Amiga can do that the PC cannot do faster. (ok, other than boot up, or write to a floppy whilst doing something else). The technology is now just too old. I guess a comparison would be liking WinNT on a PPro200/512. The only way to go faster would be to use either the rare 1mb cache version - with probably no discernable increase - or the ultra-rare 333MHz overdrive solution... at which point one might as well invest an equal sum into a "give-way" PII or PIII solution.

27 September 2006, 17:24	#5
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,433	Guys can any Phase5 ppc 68040 cards be upgraded to 68060?

27 September 2006, 17:33	#7
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,433	hmm... simple job for JJB at Amiga Repair Centre France? Do you know if the 68040 is socketed or soldered to the board?

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