Individual Computers Announces Clone-A Project

Paul · 15 October 2006, 13:04

In an exclusive interview with Total Amiga's Magnus Johnson, to be published in issue 25, Jens Schoenfeld reveals Individual Computers latest project. For the last year Jens and Oliver Achten have been working on a cycle-accurate reproduction of the Amiga chipset in FPGAs under the codename Clone-A.

Jens and Oliver will be demonstrating prototype versions of the Clone-A chips mounted in a real A500 motherboard at the AmiWest show on the 21st of October. To prove the compatibility of the implementation, even in its current form, Jens encourages show visitors to bring along A500 compatible disks to the show to try on the Clone-A.

As Total Amiga 25 won't be out until after the show, we have published an extract from the interview in PDF format. The extract describes the Clone-A in detail, traces its history and explains the current state of development. Jens also looks to the future at the possible uses for this technology once it is complete. Included in the PDF are detailed photos of the FPGA development boards. The extract PDF is a free download from the Total Amiga web site:

http://www.totalamiga.org/issue25.html

Source: Amiga.org

Oscar Castillo · 15 October 2006, 18:51

It would be nice to have a completely new replacement for all the aging hardware. It's got to be costly and time consuming to see it through to completion. I would certainly be interested in one.

kriz · 15 October 2006, 18:54

This is very nice news, good seeing several projects around amiga in a fpga..

_ThEcRoW · 16 October 2006, 13:52

If they can implement it on a pci cad, then it could be the definitive Amiga!

keropi · 16 October 2006, 14:48

or an amiga4000 mATX mobo...

_ThEcRoW · 16 October 2006, 15:24

Sure!

Antiriad · 16 October 2006, 21:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ThEcRoW

If they can implement it on a pci card, then it could be the definitive Amiga!

He he, yes that would rock wouldn't it?

alexh · 16 October 2006, 22:35

I would be more interested in them sharing their findings with the UAE developers. But they wont.

kriz · 16 October 2006, 22:40

I think I read the Minimig is going to be open source.... So at least one Fpga project you can look more into.. lets see..

Methanoid · 07 May 2009, 15:38

Oh two and a half years later and still no Clone-A. OK so they didnt promise a timescale like SOME projects but it would be nice to see it soon. I might have to buy Minimig ITX 2.0 with the ARM board.

alexh · 07 May 2009, 15:46

The Individual Computers "Indivision ECS" contains the Clone-A denise.

I do not recommend the MiniMig ITX 2.0 as it has a really small FPGA and no RAM.

Methanoid · 08 May 2009, 00:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

The Individual Computers "Indivision ECS" contains the Clone-A denise.

I do not recommend the MiniMig ITX 2.0 as it has a really small FPGA and no RAM.

What DO you recommend then?

alexh · 08 May 2009, 01:28

Wait a bit longer.....

The board needs to have a much bigger FPGA and more than 2MBytes of RAM to be worth getting. That ITX board will never have the capacity to take an AGA Amiga core if one was ever created.

Predabot · 08 May 2009, 02:42

Has anyone outside of the Clone-A team tried out one of their latest prototypes? Would be interesting to hear if it works at all. Or is the Indivision ECS proof that it does work?

Man... the NatAmi would be ideal if it ever came to be, wouldn't it? It's meant to recreate a pretty god-damn tricked out A1200, now innit'?

Eh, I guess Minimig is the way to go, since the whole thing is Open Source, and people can actually improve on it if they want to. ( apparently not many seem to be interested tho...)

rkauer · 08 May 2009, 05:41

What I really love would be one of those NatAmi video cards... Drool......

alexh · 08 May 2009, 08:56

I want a NatAmi TimeTravel device, or perhaps one of their perpetual motion engines, perhaps the Everfull mug of beer they said they were working on.

TCD · 08 May 2009, 08:58

I want their food generator. Hope the beer & Vodka patch is already available.

DoogUK · 08 May 2009, 09:30

Hmmm still not convinced that Natami is going to happen

At least with Jens projects we see the end results

HenryCase · 08 May 2009, 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Methanoid

What DO you recommend then?

I know you were directing your question at alexh, but I'd say it'd be well worth your while keeping an eye on FPGA Arcade developments:
http://www.fpgaarcade.com/

Methanoid · 09 May 2009, 00:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by HenryCase

I know you were directing your question at alexh, but I'd say it'd be well worth your while keeping an eye on FPGA Arcade developments:
http://www.fpgaarcade.com/

I did but I respect Alexh's opinions.. unlike some of the NatAmi Sunshine Farting Brigade..

15 October 2006, 13:04	#1
Paul RIP Friends Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 2,157	Individual Computers Announces Clone-A Project In an exclusive interview with Total Amiga's Magnus Johnson, to be published in issue 25, Jens Schoenfeld reveals Individual Computers latest project. For the last year Jens and Oliver Achten have been working on a cycle-accurate reproduction of the Amiga chipset in FPGAs under the codename Clone-A. Jens and Oliver will be demonstrating prototype versions of the Clone-A chips mounted in a real A500 motherboard at the AmiWest show on the 21st of October. To prove the compatibility of the implementation, even in its current form, Jens encourages show visitors to bring along A500 compatible disks to the show to try on the Clone-A. As Total Amiga 25 won't be out until after the show, we have published an extract from the interview in PDF format. The extract describes the Clone-A in detail, traces its history and explains the current state of development. Jens also looks to the future at the possible uses for this technology once it is complete. Included in the PDF are detailed photos of the FPGA development boards. The extract PDF is a free download from the Total Amiga web site: http://www.totalamiga.org/issue25.html Source: Amiga.org

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15 October 2006, 18:51	#2
Oscar Castillo Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 291	It would be nice to have a completely new replacement for all the aging hardware. It's got to be costly and time consuming to see it through to completion. I would certainly be interested in one.

15 October 2006, 18:54	#3
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,185	This is very nice news, good seeing several projects around amiga in a fpga..

16 October 2006, 13:52	#4
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 941	If they can implement it on a pci cad, then it could be the definitive Amiga!

16 October 2006, 14:48	#5
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	or an amiga4000 mATX mobo...

16 October 2006, 15:24	#6
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 941	Sure!

16 October 2006, 22:35	#8
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	I would be more interested in them sharing their findings with the UAE developers. But they wont.

16 October 2006, 22:40	#9
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,185	I think I read the Minimig is going to be open source.... So at least one Fpga project you can look more into.. lets see..

07 May 2009, 15:38	#10
Methanoid Retired Quartex Sysop Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Roman Verulamium Age: 58 Posts: 1,873	Oh two and a half years later and still no Clone-A. OK so they didnt promise a timescale like SOME projects but it would be nice to see it soon. I might have to buy Minimig ITX 2.0 with the ARM board.

07 May 2009, 15:46	#11
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	The Individual Computers "Indivision ECS" contains the Clone-A denise. I do not recommend the MiniMig ITX 2.0 as it has a really small FPGA and no RAM.

08 May 2009, 01:28	#13
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Wait a bit longer..... The board needs to have a much bigger FPGA and more than 2MBytes of RAM to be worth getting. That ITX board will never have the capacity to take an AGA Amiga core if one was ever created.

08 May 2009, 02:42	#14
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 397	Has anyone outside of the Clone-A team tried out one of their latest prototypes? Would be interesting to hear if it works at all. Or is the Indivision ECS proof that it does work? Man... the NatAmi would be ideal if it ever came to be, wouldn't it? It's meant to recreate a pretty god-damn tricked out A1200, now innit'? Eh, I guess Minimig is the way to go, since the whole thing is Open Source, and people can actually improve on it if they want to. ( apparently not many seem to be interested tho...)

08 May 2009, 05:41	#15
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	What I really love would be one of those NatAmi video cards... Drool......

08 May 2009, 08:56	#16
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	I want a NatAmi TimeTravel device, or perhaps one of their perpetual motion engines, perhaps the Everfull mug of beer they said they were working on.

08 May 2009, 08:58	#17
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,522	I want their food generator. Hope the beer & Vodka patch is already available.

08 May 2009, 09:30	#18
DoogUK Doogster Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Dorset Posts: 1,069	Hmmm still not convinced that Natami is going to happen At least with Jens projects we see the end results

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