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Old 26 May 2022, 22:02   #61
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Thanks Oliver! BRILLIANT! Two dead ACA batteries! I should have checked the T&D!
BTW, I see what you mean with Post Image URLs. I'm sure you'll figure it out!

Thanks again Oliver!!!

Also, Thanks for the heads up on the 060 CPU Command! I have a Rev 5 CPU.

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Old 27 May 2022, 00:13   #62
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Apparently the 68k version of IBrowse refuse to start under AmigaOS 4.1, it crash badly at startup
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Old 27 May 2022, 00:47   #63
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Apparently the 68k version of IBrowse refuse to start under AmigaOS 4.1, it crash badly at startup
Works fine here on 4.1FE - have been using it a lot the past few days to compare debug with what I was seeing on a real 68060 . I notice that your crashlog refers to IBrowse 2.5.5 though. Did you try with 2.5.6? I wouldn't advise using the OS4 version and then the 68K version in the same session, without rebooting in between. Of course, I generally wouldn't advise running the 68K version on OS4, as the PPC version will be much better.
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Old 27 May 2022, 12:39   #64
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Unfortunately also version 2.5.6 doesn't work on AROS 68k

Futaura did you read my report made above is about iBrowser 2.5.6 installer ? I am reporting it here:


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Install-IBrowse on OS 3.9 and 3.1 (those using Installer v43.3) crashes the Operating System and in some cases crashes WinUAE as well.

With OS 3.1.4/3.2/3.21 no problem !

The culprits/incompatible seem to be the Installer of OS 3.9 and the Installer v43.3 from Aminet
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Old 27 May 2022, 13:46   #65
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Unfortunately also version 2.5.6 doesn't work on AROS 68k
Did 2.5.5? Nothing should have changed between then and now to alter this.

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Install-IBrowse on OS 3.9 and 3.1 (those using Installer v43.3) crashes the Operating System and in some cases crashes WinUAE as well.

With OS 3.1.4/3.2/3.21 no problem !

The culprits/incompatible seem to be the Installer of OS 3.9 and the Installer v43.3 from Aminet
FYI, nothing changed in the install script (apart from the copyright year) between 2.5.5 and 2.5.6. On my A1200, the OS 3.9 Installer (44.10) is my stock installer of choice and it works fine with IBrowse, as does the 43.3. I always advise against third-party installers, such as InstallerNG, as they were/are quite buggy and not fully compatible with the official versions.

Or are you saying the IBrowse installer seems to run fine, but IBrowse crashes when trying to run the installed version? Yet, if you use the 3.2 Installer instead, IBrowse then doesn't crash?
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Old 27 May 2022, 15:32   #66
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Did 2.5.5? Nothing should have changed between then and now to alter this.
No, none version of iBrowser works on AROS 68k !

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FYI, nothing changed in the install script (apart from the copyright year) between 2.5.5 and 2.5.6. On my A1200, the OS 3.9 Installer (44.10) is my stock installer of choice and it works fine with IBrowse, as does the 43.3.
Also 2.5.5 had the same problem, to be sure I did numerous tests, today I tried OS 3.9, BB1, BB2, BB4, all freshly installed and all crashed as soon as I run the installer, see screenshot, i have to try it on another PC

Of course I am talking about "WinUAE" (tested Stable 4.4.0 version and latest beta)

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Old 27 May 2022, 17:40   #67
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Thanks Oliver! BRILLIANT! Two dead ACA batteries! I should have checked the T&D!
My A4000 syncs the time in the network-startup (Roadshow). Haven't had a battery in there for years.
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Old 27 May 2022, 18:55   #68
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If Time and Date are correct it may be that during setup you did not copy all the "Certs"

Copy all the "Certs" you find in the AmiSSL Archive by hand, overwriting the old ones present in your system
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Old 27 May 2022, 19:12   #69
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I've at last traced the issue that cropped up with Brotli compression - see http://www.ibrowse-dev.net/2.5/issues.php#blankpages

It only affects 68060 processors Rev 5 and older. Not all systems will be affected, but those that do need to disable the store/load buffer bypass on their 68060, as explained on the above page.

Brotli decompression will then work fine and need not be disabled.

I own a 68060 Rev,5 indeed.
I'll apply the startup-sequence patch, thanks for quickly finding the cause of the issue.
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Old 27 May 2022, 20:40   #70
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I own a 68060 Rev,5 indeed.
I'll apply the startup-sequence patch, thanks for quickly finding the cause of the issue.
Funnily enough, I found 68060fix.lha from Aminet in my download dir on my A1200, which also disables the store/load bypass, which I had downloaded many years ago and never actually installed. I guess I didn't install it as I thought it only affected "old" software, or that 68060.library had taken care of it, so after 20+ years I finally got stung by the bug.

In hindsight, I should have tested the release version properly on my A1200/060 - I'm sure I did when I first got the Brotli code working, but that would have been before I had tweaked things. Lesson learnt
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Old 27 May 2022, 20:43   #71
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If Time and Date are correct it may be that during setup you did not copy all the "Certs"

Copy all the "Certs" you find in the AmiSSL Archive by hand, overwriting the old ones present in your system
This should never be required though - the installer takes care of this. Always use the installers and never install by hand.
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Old 27 May 2022, 20:59   #72
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No, none version of iBrowser works on AROS 68k !

Also 2.5.5 had the same problem, to be sure I did numerous tests, today I tried OS 3.9, BB1, BB2, BB4, all freshly installed and all crashed as soon as I run the installer, see screenshot, i have to try it on another PC

Of course I am talking about "WinUAE" (tested Stable 4.4.0 version and latest beta)
Both Installer 43.3 and 44.10 work fine on my A1200, using OS 3.1, 3.9 and 3.2. They also work fine in E-UAE running on my A1XE, with a similar OS 3.9 boot to my A1200. IBrowse 68K installs and works on my OS4 and MorphOS installs too, using the system supplied Installer programs.

I've yet to see any other complaints regarding the installer. I can't be responsible for AROS or WinUAE being incompatible to AmigaOS for whatever reason. It sounds like a more fundamental issue to me - perhaps configuration related?

Perhaps if you insert
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(message "1")
lines to the commands at the top of Install-IBrowse, incrementing the number for each message, it will give some clues as to exactly where it is crashing, assuming it isn't crashing before the script even starts!
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This should never be required though - the installer takes care of this. Always use the installers and never install by hand.
Yes true, but if for some reason the Certs don't get copied, you can always fix it by copying manually.

If you try to rename the "Certs" folder you will get an error similar to user nogginthenog, see screenshot:


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I attach screenshot showing the error received !

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Old 27 May 2022, 22:49   #74
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Yes true, but if for some reason the Certs don't get copied, you can always fix it by copying manually.

If you try to rename the "Certs" folder you will get an error similar to user nogginthenog, see screenshot:

I attach screenshot showing the error received !
I don't think @nogginthenog reported an issue though, or did I miss something? They were just suggesting it is a good idea to sync your clocks with a time server, which I agree with, even with a working battery/clock (these tend to drift). It was @Amiga4000 with the original issue I think you are referring to and the validation failure reason "certificate is not yet valid" shown implies something completely different to "unable to get local issuer certificate".

Certificate validation results were completely and silently ignored in IBrowse 2.4. For IBrowse 2.5, I added the requester for validation failures, which you should find in most other browsers too in one form or another. It will show up for many other possible reasons too.

As for the installer error, you must have made a mistake. If I were to guess, it is perhaps the querydisplay line that is triggering WinUAE to crash - you could try deleting that line completely. That said, if Installer 43.3 crashes too, it must be something else.
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Forgive me fault of my 68 years, yes I meant to say user "Amiga4000"

On the Install-IBrowse I added the line you described, maybe I got the wrong place?

As said only on OS3.9 and using Installer 43.3 causes the Crash on WinUAE.

If I replace the installer on OS 3.9 with that of OS 3.1.4/3.2 everything works normally, this makes me think of an incompatibility on the script.

As said I should try on other PC, on real Amiga I can't, I haven't used them for 30 years, I have almost all of them from A4000/060 to A1200, A600, A500, A500Plus, CD32 with SX32

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Forgive me fault of my 68 years, yes I meant to say user "Amiga4000"

On the Install-IBrowse I added the line you described, maybe I got the wrong place?

As said only on OS3.9 and using Installer 43.3 causes the Crash on WinUAE.

If I replace the installer on OS 3.9 with that of OS 3.1.4/3.2 everything works normally, this makes me think of an incompatibility on the script.
What about Installer 44.10 from OS 3.9? Does that crash too?

Can you try the attached install script instead? This will display a number before each step right up to the welcome page is shown, so if you can let me know the last number shown before WinUAE crashes, we should know where it is crashing at least.
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Discovered the crash on WinUAE, basically the Crash happens only if iBrowser installation is done from a Windows folder attached on WinUAE.

It is solved by first copying the iBrowser folder to HardFile, done this the installer works perfectly.

What is very strange is that with the Instraller of OS 3.1.4/3.2/3.2.1 this does not happen

I tested your install-ib-debug, it starts with a numbering and at number 17 WinUAE crashes
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I have a silly question but is there meant to be a [1] beside IBrowse on the title bar?


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It is, it means you are looking at the first tab (or Browser in iBrowse parlance). Go to the project menu and choose New Browser and you'll see what I mean.
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Good to hear that all went well Hacker!


And, welcome to the 060 club!

:-) I've been a part of the 68060 club since 1999 I think. Though, back then it was Rev 5. Been using V6 for some years now..so I can see why it went smooth. I dig the club a lot, except for some WHDLoad installs, or just 'normal' programs and games.


Moreover, I was just informing Futaura..of another success.


I was wondering about to Time/Date as well. Sometimes I catch that my A4000's has lagged behind some.
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