A600 2.0d and Furia 2b trouble - Page 2

EmuChicken · 02 January 2020, 13:18

I've been at this for.... Holy Christ! 9 hours today!!! - It's been a LOT of trial and error. There's definite incompatibility SOMEWHERE with the Furia- At first I thought it was the PDS3 system (Is that the new PFS3?), but it seems that it wasn't this, but related to some of the software that starts up with the heavier ClassicWB/BetterWB packages.
I tried MANY HstWB releases @ https://hstwb.firstrealize.com/download, and nailed down that @8GB HstWB self install HDF image v1.4.2" - BetterWB selected, No HstWB launcher works!

Unfortunately I LOVE the boot launcher, it's a shame that this might have issues with Furia.
Also, I changed cards to the 8GB Toshiba SDcard (rated @ 4).- Using the standard ribbon to a cheap SDCard adapter.

Jope · 02 January 2020, 13:41

PDS3 = PFS3 but directscsi instead of TD64 access. The dostype alone does not tell you which version you're running, you can instead say version dh0: (or whatever your boot device name is) to see.

Upgrading the filesystem is done with hdtoolbox. You can just replace the existing PDS3 or PFS3 filesystem with the latest pfs3aio with the update filesystem button inside filesystem maintenance. Hdtoolbox help here http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=1101583

Mark sealey · 02 January 2020, 19:15

I couldn't get my sd card adapter to work with a cable.

mja65 · 02 January 2020, 23:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark sealey

1.....https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F123879053174

2.....https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F132792646075

3....https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F163932041284

Ok I've seen Furia setup with No3...all seems ok.

Also No2 is what I first tried..could not get it to work.

No1 I've not seen working on any Furia setup's

I've been using my sd card setup for over a year...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...13580129224184

My Facebook page/blog

So us you cf card adapter one of the above ?

It's the second one. Sorry, I would have posted the link earlier, but I wasn't aware if that was allowed in the forum. Here is the link:

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CF-Card-...72.m2749.l2649

I am quite surprised at how few problems I had - it's not advertised as Amiga (I assumed this reference was a way for some sellers to mark up the price), it's worked successfully with every CF card I've thrown at it, albeit I have only tried the IDE speed up on the Sandisk.

My board is also in need of a recap. I see the warnings on the Furia site about this being a problem. As well, I plugged the bloody thing (the IDE adapter - not the Furia) the wrong way around to start with!

I recognise I might just be really lucky (normally I am the one that has all the problems with these sorts of things!) - but hopefully the above helps.

EmuChicken · 03 January 2020, 03:39

So what OS are you all running on ? A clean install of 3.1?

Mark sealey · 03 January 2020, 09:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmuChicken

So what OS are you all running on ? A clean install of 3.1?

Im running a custom 3.9 rom with os3.9

Note:

3.1 OS you have to patch the scsi.device for hard drives bigger than 4gb...I couldn't get maprom working or shadow rom working with os3.1...also Furia tune gui didn't work too.

If I was you I would upgrade to at least 3.1.4 with a Rom.

mja65 · 03 January 2020, 09:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmuChicken

So what OS are you all running on ? A clean install of 3.1?

Cloanto 3.X Rom with Workbench 3.1.4.1 and better WB . Worked fine with a clean install of Workbench 3.1 as well.

psoma · 03 January 2020, 10:20

I was having all sorts of problems with my Furia... then I removed the FPU and it became rock solid. Worth a try?

Tom

ChrisR3X · 28 February 2020, 01:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmuChicken

I've been at this for.... Holy Christ! 9 hours today!!! - It's been a LOT of trial and error. There's definite incompatibility SOMEWHERE with the Furia- At first I thought it was the PDS3 system (Is that the new PFS3?), but it seems that it wasn't this, but related to some of the software that starts up with the heavier ClassicWB/BetterWB packages.
I tried MANY HstWB releases @ https://hstwb.firstrealize.com/download, and nailed down that @8GB HstWB self install HDF image v1.4.2" - BetterWB selected, No HstWB launcher works!

Unfortunately I LOVE the boot launcher, it's a shame that this might have issues with Furia.
Also, I changed cards to the 8GB Toshiba SDcard (rated @ 4).- Using the standard ribbon to a cheap SDCard adapter.

Hey I've been going through the same grief over the last couple of days. Sounds my my config is the same as yours. I managed to pin the issue down to CPU cacheing. I can disable cache via furiatune ("furiatune cache off" in my Startup-Sequence), but is looses this setting after a cold reboot.

So now, when cold rebooting, I go into boot options (holding both mouse buttons) and select "Disable CPU caches" and the HstWB on 3.1.4 boots perfectly including the boot launcher!

Warm reboots work too without needing to hold mouse buttons.

Hope this helps!

Jolabandola · 28 February 2020, 18:06

I am running OS3.1.4.1 and kickstart 3.1.4 on my Furia 600. I have to go into the early boot menu and disable cpu cache twice to get it to boot. A pain in the ass but once that is done my system is rock solid and fast! I can play for hours on end without any problems. Warm reboot still require early bootmenu and disabling cache.

Boboo_SK · 03 April 2020, 13:59

Firmware v13.0 fo Furia EC020 Rev2.x and Rev3.0, update and fix.
Download

- Kickstart 3.1.4 and SD-Card/CF, Cache friendly
- Optimize DRAM, CAS access (two type memory)

Pollock · 03 April 2020, 21:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boboo_SK

Firmware v13.0 fo Furia EC020 Rev2.x and Rev3.0, update and fix.
Download

- Kickstart 3.1.4 and SD-Card/CF, Cache friendly
- Optimize DRAM, CAS access (two type memory)

As long as you use a good quality CF card, the Furia is a great little card, I have had two, and thought they where great bang for your buck.

i just keep waiting on the Furia 030 to arrive

i would buy it.

turrican9 · 04 April 2020, 12:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boboo_SK

Firmware v13.0 fo Furia EC020 Rev2.x and Rev3.0, update and fix.
Download

- Kickstart 3.1.4 and SD-Card/CF, Cache friendly
- Optimize DRAM, CAS access (two type memory)

How do you flash new firmware to the Furia? I cannot find instructions for this

amigasith · 04 April 2020, 13:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican9

How do you flash new firmware to the Furia? I cannot find instructions for this

You need a programmer for this. See here: https://lotharek.pl/productdetail.php?id=105#faq

emuola · 04 April 2020, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by amigasith

You need a programmer for this. See here: https://lotharek.pl/productdetail.php?id=105#faq

Or a Raspberry Pi. See here: https://github.com/terriblefir...-th...a-Raspberry-Pi

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JoeJoe · 05 April 2020, 12:07

Has anyone used the PI to flash the Furia yet?

turrican9 · 07 April 2020, 10:06

I had nothing but trouble with Furia and CF cards. I bought my Furia some years ago and it came with a sandisk CF card it was supposed to work with. It never was 100% stable. I tried a bunch of other CF cards aswell. No luck.

In the end I went for the SD card solution which made everything 100% stable.

ChrisR3X · 28 May 2020, 00:34

Success! I have just had my Furia card returned to me from lotharek.pl after getting it's firmware upgraded to V13 and finally I can now boot into OS 3.1.4.1 every time from my SD card without the need to disable CPU cache in the early boot menu nor do I need to run "furiatune cache off" in my startup-sequence.

Horray!

I can highly recommend lotharek.pl firmware upgrade service. It may take a few weeks but well worth the wait!

https://lotharek.pl/productdetail.php?id=292

Jolabandola · 29 May 2020, 13:44

Nice!! I think i will do the same then. I allready got the active cooling ordered

Mark sealey · 30 May 2020, 00:43

Cool...I might look into this at some point.

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02 January 2020, 13:18	#21
EmuChicken Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nagoya, Japan (moved!) Age: 41 Posts: 746	I've been at this for.... Holy Christ! 9 hours today!!! - It's been a LOT of trial and error. There's definite incompatibility SOMEWHERE with the Furia- At first I thought it was the PDS3 system (Is that the new PFS3?), but it seems that it wasn't this, but related to some of the software that starts up with the heavier ClassicWB/BetterWB packages. I tried MANY HstWB releases @ https://hstwb.firstrealize.com/download, and nailed down that @8GB HstWB self install HDF image v1.4.2" - BetterWB selected, No HstWB launcher works! Unfortunately I LOVE the boot launcher, it's a shame that this might have issues with Furia. Also, I changed cards to the 8GB Toshiba SDcard (rated @ 4).- Using the standard ribbon to a cheap SDCard adapter.

02 January 2020, 13:41	#22
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,865	PDS3 = PFS3 but directscsi instead of TD64 access. The dostype alone does not tell you which version you're running, you can instead say version dh0: (or whatever your boot device name is) to see. Upgrading the filesystem is done with hdtoolbox. You can just replace the existing PDS3 or PFS3 filesystem with the latest pfs3aio with the update filesystem button inside filesystem maintenance. Hdtoolbox help here http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=1101583

02 January 2020, 19:15	#23
Mark sealey Registered User Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Nottingham Posts: 340	I couldn't get my sd card adapter to work with a cable.

03 January 2020, 03:39	#25
EmuChicken Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nagoya, Japan (moved!) Age: 41 Posts: 746	So what OS are you all running on ? A clean install of 3.1?

03 January 2020, 10:20	#28
psoma Registered User Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 193	I was having all sorts of problems with my Furia... then I removed the FPU and it became rock solid. Worth a try? Tom

28 February 2020, 18:06	#30
Jolabandola Registered User Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Nordmaling/Sweden Posts: 100	I am running OS3.1.4.1 and kickstart 3.1.4 on my Furia 600. I have to go into the early boot menu and disable cpu cache twice to get it to boot. A pain in the ass but once that is done my system is rock solid and fast! I can play for hours on end without any problems. Warm reboot still require early bootmenu and disabling cache.

03 April 2020, 13:59	#31
Boboo_SK Develop HW Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Nitra / Slovakia Posts: 101	Firmware v13.0 fo Furia EC020 Rev2.x and Rev3.0, update and fix. Download - Kickstart 3.1.4 and SD-Card/CF, Cache friendly - Optimize DRAM, CAS access (two type memory)

05 April 2020, 12:07	#36
JoeJoe Registered User Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Germany Posts: 184	Has anyone used the PI to flash the Furia yet?

07 April 2020, 10:06	#37
turrican9 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Norway Age: 47 Posts: 893	I had nothing but trouble with Furia and CF cards. I bought my Furia some years ago and it came with a sandisk CF card it was supposed to work with. It never was 100% stable. I tried a bunch of other CF cards aswell. No luck. In the end I went for the SD card solution which made everything 100% stable.

28 May 2020, 00:34	#38
ChrisR3X Registered User Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: London Posts: 7	Success! I have just had my Furia card returned to me from lotharek.pl after getting it's firmware upgraded to V13 and finally I can now boot into OS 3.1.4.1 every time from my SD card without the need to disable CPU cache in the early boot menu nor do I need to run "furiatune cache off" in my startup-sequence. Horray! I can highly recommend lotharek.pl firmware upgrade service. It may take a few weeks but well worth the wait! https://lotharek.pl/productdetail.php?id=292

29 May 2020, 13:44	#39
Jolabandola Registered User Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Nordmaling/Sweden Posts: 100	Nice!! I think i will do the same then. I allready got the active cooling ordered

30 May 2020, 00:43	#40
Mark sealey Registered User Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Nottingham Posts: 340	Cool...I might look into this at some point.

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