A1200 HDD Boot Issue!

PowerPie5000 · 09 March 2010, 18:44

I've just installed my hard drive into my newly aquired A1200 and it refuses to boot! It has Amigasys 4 AGA installed along with WB 3.1 in a seperate partition and WHDLoad + games etc.. (using SFS by the way).

This is what i get when the A1200 goes to boot from the HDD (i have 2mb chip and 16mb fast ram installed with 40mhz 030 processor):

Does anyone know what could be wrong? Cheers

prowler · 09 March 2010, 19:06

I have seen that error myself recently, but I can't remember exactly what caused it.

Did you prepare the hard drive under WinUAE or on another A1200?

Is there any chance that the hard drive is trying to execute software which requires an '040 or above processor?

BTW, whatever did cause my error, it was easily fixed.

PowerPie5000 · 09 March 2010, 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

I have seen that error myself recently, but I can't remember exactly what caused it.

Did you prepare the hard drive under WinUAE or on another A1200?

Is there any chance that the hard drive is trying to execute software which requires an '040 or above processor?

BTW, whatever did cause my error, it was easily fixed.

It was not prepared by myself (i can't be arsed

) and i think it was done through WinUAE. I don't think it's expecting a 030 processor as it's supposed to be the same HDD setup i had on my other C= A1200.

prowler · 09 March 2010, 19:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerPie5000

It was not prepared by myself (i can't be arsed

) and i think it was done through WinUAE. I don't think it's expecting a 030 processor as it's supposed to be the same HDD setup i had on my other C= A1200.

When hard drives are prepared on WinUAE, care must be taken to use the same device for HDToolbox as used by the real Amiga, i.e. scsi.device and not uaescsi.device, IIRC.

PowerPie5000 · 09 March 2010, 19:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

When hard drives are prepared on WinUAE, care must be taken to use the same device for HDToolbox as used by the real Amiga, i.e. scsi.device and not uaescsi.device, IIRC.

I will ask the guy and find out. I've used him a couple of times to prepare A1200 and A600 HDD's for me as i cannot be bothered

and there's usually never any problems

Would the scsi device issue come up with those messages?

prowler · 09 March 2010, 19:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerPie5000

Would the scsi device issue come up with those messages?

I don't know, as I have no experience of using disks which have been prepared on WinUAE. It was just a guess based on what you said about how the disk had been prepared.

I just wish I could remember the circumstances which gave me the same error message.

Have you tried a warm reboot, i.e. Ctrl-Amiga-Amiga?

Toni Wilen · 09 March 2010, 19:29

First check that fast ram is working, what does "avail" show? and what about "info"? Do you get same results if you boot without startup-sequence?

Quote:

When hard drives are prepared on WinUAE, care must be taken to use the same device for HDToolbox as used by the real Amiga, i.e. scsi.device and not uaescsi.device, IIRC.

No. There is not much difference unless you want to test >4G issues under WinUAE. (and it is uaehf.device, not uaescsi.device)

PowerPie5000 · 09 March 2010, 19:47

Thanks for the replies

I've managed to boot to WB 3.1 by selecting HD1 from the A1200's boot menu. I only run into the error when i selct HD0 from the boot menu (I'm sure this is the Amigasys partition).

Anyway here are more screenshots showing more info...

Toni Wilen · 09 March 2010, 19:53

SFS is incorrectly installed. It should say SFS0, not CFS0 in boot menu. (but it may not be the reason for out of memory message)

PowerPie5000 · 09 March 2010, 20:28

I have no idea whats wrong? I can get the 3.1 partiton to boot but not Amigasys 4

HD2 partiton says "not bootable" and i don't know what it contains? oh and the hard drive is 6.5gb although i don't know how much of that space is actually being used

Toni Wilen · 09 March 2010, 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerPie5000

HD2 partiton says "not bootable" and i don't know what it contains? oh and the hard drive is 6.5gb although i don't know how much of that space is actually being used

Guaranteed 4G limit issue. CF was clearly installed using uaehf.device which fully supports >4G drives. KS 3.1 (or older) built-in scsi.device is dangerous to use if any partition is fully or partially outside of first 4G.

Your CF setup is bad. (wrong dostype, >4G used without patches). At least it was setup using uaehf.device. Real Amiga or IDE emulation install without 4G patches would have been really dangerous, last partition would have been visible but sooner or later whole drive would have gotten corrupted because two partitions shared same disk blocks..

Thomas can explain this much better, I am too lazy to explain how to properly setup Amiga HD

FOL · 09 March 2010, 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerPie5000

I have no idea whats wrong? I can get the 3.1 partiton to boot but not Amigasys 4

HD2 partiton says "not bootable" and i don't know what it contains? oh and the hard drive is 6.5gb although i don't know how much of that space is actually being used

Toni is right, when selecting the filesystem in hdtoolbox, you need to alter the identifier beginning from 4 to 5, then it will report as SFS/00.

09 March 2010, 18:44	#1
PowerPie5000 Miggy Ate My Hamster! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 1,566	A1200 HDD Boot Issue! I've just installed my hard drive into my newly aquired A1200 and it refuses to boot! It has Amigasys 4 AGA installed along with WB 3.1 in a seperate partition and WHDLoad + games etc.. (using SFS by the way). This is what i get when the A1200 goes to boot from the HDD (i have 2mb chip and 16mb fast ram installed with 40mhz 030 processor): Does anyone know what could be wrong? Cheers Attached Thumbnails Last edited by PowerPie5000; 09 March 2010 at 19:05.

09 March 2010, 19:47	#8
PowerPie5000 Miggy Ate My Hamster! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 1,566	Thanks for the replies I've managed to boot to WB 3.1 by selecting HD1 from the A1200's boot menu. I only run into the error when i selct HD0 from the boot menu (I'm sure this is the Amigasys partition). Anyway here are more screenshots showing more info... Attached Thumbnails

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09 March 2010, 19:06	#2
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	I have seen that error myself recently, but I can't remember exactly what caused it. Did you prepare the hard drive under WinUAE or on another A1200? Is there any chance that the hard drive is trying to execute software which requires an '040 or above processor? BTW, whatever did cause my error, it was easily fixed.

09 March 2010, 19:53	#9
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,570	SFS is incorrectly installed. It should say SFS0, not CFS0 in boot menu. (but it may not be the reason for out of memory message)

09 March 2010, 20:28	#10
PowerPie5000 Miggy Ate My Hamster! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 1,566	I have no idea whats wrong? I can get the 3.1 partiton to boot but not Amigasys 4 HD2 partiton says "not bootable" and i don't know what it contains? oh and the hard drive is 6.5gb although i don't know how much of that space is actually being used

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