Transfer problem? AGAIN!

Djay · 14 September 2002, 01:56

Sorry Bloodwych...

--------

i've transfered a few things over to my A1200, the adfs have work using WinUAE on the PC, but...

... when i write the sectors back to an Amiga floppy disk, the software don't work properly????

for example...

Switchback AGA - Rebels : stops after Cruncher loads

Qwik & Silva : Software Failure

Lotus 1 : Software Failure

Lotus 2 : Software Failure after the title text is displayed

Speedball 2 - Incorrect palette

....

i've tried Switchback twice, so i'm ruling out a transfer error.

other than these hic-ups... its BLOODY GREAT

as Akira points out - NothingBeatsTheRealThing©

Amiga1992 · 14 September 2002, 01:59

Quote:

Originally posted by Djay

Lotus 1 : Software Failure

Lotus 2 : Software Failure after the title text is displayed

These games don't work on A1200s, so I presume it's the same problem with the others. This is not a transfer problem!!

Get yourself a softkicker tool, a degrader tool, to try and make these work... But if you can, you better get WHDLoad versions of these games!

14 September 2002, 02:01

The number of ADFs on my HD are in five digits. ~80% can fit on a ms-dos formatted floppy when zipped. Do you have to send them via network? Try to transfer your might-be-corrupt adfs this way and see if they really are.

Djay · 14 September 2002, 02:02

Quote:

Get yourself a softkicker tool, a degrader tool, to try and make these work... But if you can, you better get WHDLoad versions of these games!

i've got Relokick 1.41, but back in the day i had both the Lotus games and they worked on my A1200 (they could of been "AGA fixed", or i could just have shitty memory... but i'm 99% sure)

as for WHDLoad, what exactly do i need?

thx

Djay · 14 September 2002, 02:04

Quote:

The number of ADFs on my HD are in five digits. ~80% can fit on a ms-dos formatted floppy when zipped. Do you have to send them via network?

mmm, normally the transfer software will say if there has been an error and will stop transfer, and delete the offending file on the Amiga side....

i've tried the floppy way before and never had much luck...

Amiga1992 · 14 September 2002, 03:14

Perhaps they were AGA fixed, because Lotus 1 doesnt even work on my A600 unless I softkick. And I tried Lotus 2 on my A1200 and it doesnt work, again, unless I relokick.

Sometimes, depending on which transfer proggy you use, a transfer might pass as "ok", but it would actually ge tfucked. best thing is to transfer a ZIPed or LHAed archive... if this file gets fucked up, the unarchiving program will give you an error.

I still think this is not a transfer problem. it's almost mandatory to use softkickers/degraders if you want to run old shite.

Fow WHDload, you need an HD, of course

Not much else, if you just want to run OCS/ECS games. if you have extra memory you can preload and/or run AGA games.

Djay · 14 September 2002, 22:14

ok, cool

whats a good .zip extracter on the Amiga then?

i might do lotus 3 instead

14 September 2002, 22:18

VooDoo-X from aminet

Or just "unzip" from aminet if you'll just unpack zip files.

Amiga1992 · 14 September 2002, 22:19

Hehehe, Lotus 3 shouldn't work either I think :P At least not the cracked version I had. It didnt work in my A600 without degrading!

Djay · 16 September 2002, 03:03

Quote:

Voodoo-x

requires...

muimaster.lib v19
xadmaster.lib v10

can't find these on Aminet... can anyone upload to the Zone!!

thx

Amiga1992 · 16 September 2002, 03:15

Fuck that, just use a commandline unzip. I use that through DirWorks

muimaster.library comes with the MUI package. Dunno bout the other one

Djay · 16 September 2002, 03:21

you have to use muimaster.lib v19, i found xadmaster... and a version of muimaster.lib but wasn't the right version number

mmm, never did use commandlines until MS-DOS on the PeeCee... i would prefer a GUI version!!!

Amiga1992 · 16 September 2002, 03:23

I am telling you, a directory utility like Opus or Dirwork take care of the commandline guff for you!

I dont type shite

Djay · 16 September 2002, 11:46

oh right.. cool

Bloodwych · 16 September 2002, 15:24

Quote:

Originally posted by Djay

requires...

muimaster.lib v19
xadmaster.lib v10

can't find these on Aminet... can anyone upload to the Zone!!

thx

Hehe. You know what I'm going to say Djay, Right?

All these files are included with my Classic Workbench FULL/ADV.

The LITE version uses a less memory hungry solution as it’s designed for 2MB Amigas. It sports a Packmaster GUI and all the executables (like unzip) you'll need. It also has the Ami2PC network pre-installed.

Like Akira said, one lib you’ve mentioned comes with MUI, but I really wouldn’t suggest using MUI and therefore apps like VoodooX on a 2MB A1200 - they eat too much RAM. The latest version of the other lib (XAD) can be found on that Amiga virus checker site Retro linked for you.

I have no issues with copying over adf's and I think Akira has the explanation spot on - it's just the A1200's usual compatibility probs. However, if you are having issues, getting into the habit of zipping everything you send is a sure way of checking for errors.

Guess what else is built into the Classic WB - a TUDE degrader for these older ADF games and WHDload/Jst in order to run harddrive games. On A1200's the BEST way to play these older titles is to use the harddrive installable versions that have been fixed for the newer Amigas. That’s why we suggest 1 GIG min if people are looking for new harddrives – it’s about the perfect size for fitting on all your favourite Harddrive games. In fact, my 1.28 GIG is only half full and I’ve got many of the classics.

Is your A1200 2MB Djay, or have you found a fast ram expansion?

Amiga1992 · 16 September 2002, 15:26

Bloodwych, you are a spammer

Bloodwych · 16 September 2002, 15:28

What, me

I'm a helpful spammer however.

Djay · 16 September 2002, 20:02

i copied the muimaster.lib from your ClassicWb3.0 and it was the wrong version?!?!?!?

it doesn't matter now i'll just use unzip!!!!

thx anyway

Amiga1992 · 16 September 2002, 21:52

Djay, I said it, bloodw said it, and I'll sy it again. That lib is part of MUI, so you need the whole goddamn package to make it run properly!

Forget about it, it's bloat!

Djay · 16 September 2002, 21:58

ok now i get it..... sorry for being so stoopid!!!

LOL

why did Commodore design the OS so you have to copy Libs etc.. to the HD (if a program needs a Lib it won't point itself to the Libs directory on the floppy disk, on the HD0: )

mmm, or am i stoopid again!!!

14 September 2002, 01:56	#1
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	Transfer problem? AGAIN! Sorry Bloodwych... -------- i've transfered a few things over to my A1200, the adfs have work using WinUAE on the PC, but... ... when i write the sectors back to an Amiga floppy disk, the software don't work properly???? for example... Switchback AGA - Rebels : stops after Cruncher loads Qwik & Silva : Software Failure Lotus 1 : Software Failure Lotus 2 : Software Failure after the title text is displayed Speedball 2 - Incorrect palette .... i've tried Switchback twice, so i'm ruling out a transfer error. other than these hic-ups... its BLOODY GREAT as Akira points out - NothingBeatsTheRealThing©

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14 September 2002, 02:01	#3
oldpx Posts: n/a	The number of ADFs on my HD are in five digits. ~80% can fit on a ms-dos formatted floppy when zipped. Do you have to send them via network? Try to transfer your might-be-corrupt adfs this way and see if they really are.

14 September 2002, 03:14	#6
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,658	Perhaps they were AGA fixed, because Lotus 1 doesnt even work on my A600 unless I softkick. And I tried Lotus 2 on my A1200 and it doesnt work, again, unless I relokick. Sometimes, depending on which transfer proggy you use, a transfer might pass as "ok", but it would actually ge tfucked. best thing is to transfer a ZIPed or LHAed archive... if this file gets fucked up, the unarchiving program will give you an error. I still think this is not a transfer problem. it's almost mandatory to use softkickers/degraders if you want to run old shite. Fow WHDload, you need an HD, of course Not much else, if you just want to run OCS/ECS games. if you have extra memory you can preload and/or run AGA games.

14 September 2002, 22:14	#7
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	ok, cool whats a good .zip extracter on the Amiga then? i might do lotus 3 instead

14 September 2002, 22:18	#8
oldpx Posts: n/a	VooDoo-X from aminet Or just "unzip" from aminet if you'll just unpack zip files.

14 September 2002, 22:19	#9
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,658	Hehehe, Lotus 3 shouldn't work either I think :P At least not the cracked version I had. It didnt work in my A600 without degrading!

16 September 2002, 03:15	#11
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,658	Fuck that, just use a commandline unzip. I use that through DirWorks muimaster.library comes with the MUI package. Dunno bout the other one

16 September 2002, 03:21	#12
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	you have to use muimaster.lib v19, i found xadmaster... and a version of muimaster.lib but wasn't the right version number mmm, never did use commandlines until MS-DOS on the PeeCee... i would prefer a GUI version!!!

16 September 2002, 03:23	#13
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,658	I am telling you, a directory utility like Opus or Dirwork take care of the commandline guff for you! I dont type shite

16 September 2002, 11:46	#14
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	oh right.. cool

16 September 2002, 15:26	#16
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,658	Bloodwych, you are a spammer

16 September 2002, 20:02	#18
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	i copied the muimaster.lib from your ClassicWb3.0 and it was the wrong version?!?!?!? it doesn't matter now i'll just use unzip!!!! thx anyway

16 September 2002, 21:52	#19
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,658	Djay, I said it, bloodw said it, and I'll sy it again. That lib is part of MUI, so you need the whole goddamn package to make it run properly! Forget about it, it's bloat!

16 September 2002, 21:58	#20
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	ok now i get it..... sorry for being so stoopid!!! LOL why did Commodore design the OS so you have to copy Libs etc.. to the HD (if a program needs a Lib it won't point itself to the Libs directory on the floppy disk, on the HD0: ) mmm, or am i stoopid again!!!

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