AWeb has killed my OS 3.9 install

NovaCoder · 02 March 2009, 23:29

In a fit of madness I decided to install AWeb on my 1200 last night. After the reboot I found that my system was somewhat stuffed. After some investigation (I'm a newbie BTW), I discovered that the GUI system (ClassAct) used by AWeb is older than the GUI system (ReAction) used by OS 3.5+.

What a pain in the bottom

Any easy fix or do I have to re-install OS 3.9 (again).

Shoonay · 02 March 2009, 23:38

I guess a quick "copy the newer file over the older file" should do the trick

NovaCoder · 03 March 2009, 00:10

Do you know which ones I need to replace from the OS 3.9 CDROM or is it better just to run the whole install + BB's.

Shoonay · 03 March 2009, 00:16

Sorry, no idea.
When you've said about one older and one newer file, I figured you knew.

It's been a while since I've checked the OS3.9 drawer structure (that I own meself) so I can't help, but I guess it's all a matter of searching for the right file.
Something named *.class?
I'm sure it is *THERE* somewhere...

Fingerlickin_B · 03 March 2009, 00:20

Maybe try this:

Look at the folders in the AWeb install package & identify the Classes there.

Find the alternative folder on your 3.9 CD & simply copy the files back over to your HDD, allowing it to replace any of the same name.

I don't know squat about Amiga software...but it *might* work

PZ.

NovaCoder · 03 March 2009, 00:36

It's all such a pain, it would have been really helpful if a massive warning message came up that said 'DO NOT INSTALL THIS SUCKER IF YOU ARE RUNNING OS 3.5+'

thomas · 03 March 2009, 09:44

Why don't you simply forget your floppy disks and install the latest version of AWeb which is free now ? It does not come with back-leveled classes.

http://aweb.sunsite.dk/

NovaCoder · 03 March 2009, 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomas

Why don't you simply forget your floppy disks and install the latest version of AWeb which is free now ? It does not come with back-leveled classes.

http://aweb.sunsite.dk/

Thomas, if only I had discovered this link before I installed the older version of AWeb I would have been a happier man

Thanks for the link though

I had to re-install 3.9 last night to fix the problem.

Is AWeb the best browser to use with a 1200/030 50mhz/64mb/AGA?

thomas · 04 March 2009, 08:44

Quote:

Is AWeb the best browser to use with a 1200/030 50mhz/64mb/AGA?

Well, there are only two browsers left for the Amiga: AWeb and IBrowse. IBrowse is still commercial but cannot be bought right now. Next version has been promised but is a long time coming.

As always in the Amiga community, if only two parties of some kind exist, it's a matter of taste or religion which one is considered best. The concepts are quite different.

Fingerlickin_B · 04 March 2009, 08:57

Hi Nova,

It would seem the latest versions of iBrowse & AWeb were released in the same year.

I never could get AWeb to work well (or even at all on my A1200T), but after a few teething problems (easy fixes, I#m just retarded), it is now VERY reliable & very compatible with most sites

So yeah, my vote is for iBrowse...in fact I am posting this message with it!

Shame you cannot buy registration keys anymore, but hey, they are out there

PZ.

NovaCoder · 04 March 2009, 09:32

What about the OWB...any good for 68k?

Fingerlickin_B · 05 March 2009, 00:44

Origyn works fantastically on my Efika (MorphOS), but seems like it'd be pretty bloody resource-hungry on 68k-based machine

I might be wrong though...give it a shot & let us know

PZ.

NovaCoder · 05 March 2009, 02:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fingerlickin_B

Origyn works fantastically on my Efika (MorphOS), but seems like it'd be pretty bloody resource-hungry on 68k-based machine

I might be wrong though...give it a shot & let us know

PZ.

I will once I get EasyNet installed and running on my Miggy

AmigaFriend · 05 March 2009, 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaCoder

What about the OWB...any good for 68k?

It worked great on WinUAE! On Amiga 4000 040 it crawled a bit (net through serial port though). And not having navigation bars is a nuisance also.

NovaCoder · 05 March 2009, 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpect

It worked great on WinUAE! On Amiga 4000 040 it crawled a bit (net through serial port though). And not having navigation bars is a nuisance also.

How to you configure WinUAE to go-online (eg what device do you need to choose)?

thomas · 06 March 2009, 07:14

You don't need a device, you even don't need a TCP/IP stack. Just enable bsdsocket emulation on the Misc page and run you favourite internet app (e.g. OWB).

If you like, you can install winpcap on Windows, then disable bsdsocket and enable uaenet. Then you can install a TCP/IP stack and choose uaenet.device.

Bamiga2002 · 06 March 2009, 09:06

What do you NOT know Thomas?

NovaCoder · 06 March 2009, 09:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bamiga2002

What do you NOT know Thomas?

He doesn't know what he doesn't know.

rockersuke · 08 March 2009, 23:42

HI there!

I'm closely following Novacoder's networking troubles as I'm right now also fighting against Easynet and a MMA401 wireless card. I couldn't make my A1200 make friends with my PC yet (no file transferring, still on it ^_^'), but the things is somehow working as the live update did its job and downloaded its stuff through my PC Internet connection.

Then I tried to install AWeb... and found myself in the reverse problem as exposed here. I mean, my A1200 is a 3.1 ROM-3.1 WB system, so Aweb requires the Classact files. I downloaded them from Aminet, but Aweb seems to dislike the button.gadget file for no aparent reason (says it couldn't open it, snoopdos confirms the action "failed", but button.gadget is in its right place ->"classes/gadgets/").

This happened with version 3.5 beta, the one included in Amigakit's Easynet CD-ROM. I tried with 3.4 from Aweb site with the very same result.

Any suggestion what to check next?

--

rockersuke · 09 March 2009, 00:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockersuke

HI there!

I'm closely following Novacoder's networking troubles as I'm right now also fighting against Easynet and a MMA401 wireless card. I couldn't make my A1200 make friends with my PC yet (no file transferring, still on it ^_^'), but the things is somehow working as the live update did its job and downloaded its stuff through my PC Internet connection.

Then I tried to install AWeb... and found myself in the reverse problem as exposed here. I mean, my A1200 is a 3.1 ROM-3.1 WB system, so Aweb requires the Classact files. I downloaded them from Aminet, but Aweb seems to dislike the button.gadget file for no aparent reason (says it couldn't open it, snoopdos confirms the action "failed", but button.gadget is in its right place ->"classes/gadgets/").

This happened with version 3.5 beta, the one included in Amigakit's Easynet CD-ROM. I tried with 3.4 from Aweb site with the very same result.

Any suggestion what to check next?

--

Yaaay! First post ever using a real Amiga!! (so it looks like I solved wathever was happening

) Using Aweb in a plain A1200 to browse EAB is a pain, anyway, so I don't expect to do it frequently XDD

--

02 March 2009, 23:29	#1
NovaCoder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 4,431	AWeb has killed my OS 3.9 install In a fit of madness I decided to install AWeb on my 1200 last night. After the reboot I found that my system was somewhat stuffed. After some investigation (I'm a newbie BTW), I discovered that the GUI system (ClassAct) used by AWeb is older than the GUI system (ReAction) used by OS 3.5+. What a pain in the bottom Any easy fix or do I have to re-install OS 3.9 (again).

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02 March 2009, 23:38	#2
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Age: 43 Posts: 6,108	I guess a quick "copy the newer file over the older file" should do the trick

03 March 2009, 00:10	#3
NovaCoder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 4,431	Do you know which ones I need to replace from the OS 3.9 CDROM or is it better just to run the whole install + BB's.

03 March 2009, 00:16	#4
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Age: 43 Posts: 6,108	Sorry, no idea. When you've said about one older and one newer file, I figured you knew. It's been a while since I've checked the OS3.9 drawer structure (that I own meself) so I can't help, but I guess it's all a matter of searching for the right file. Something named .class? I'm sure it is THERE* somewhere...

03 March 2009, 00:20	#5
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Maybe try this: Look at the folders in the AWeb install package & identify the Classes there. Find the alternative folder on your 3.9 CD & simply copy the files back over to your HDD, allowing it to replace any of the same name. I don't know squat about Amiga software...but it might work PZ.

03 March 2009, 00:36	#6
NovaCoder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 4,431	It's all such a pain, it would have been really helpful if a massive warning message came up that said 'DO NOT INSTALL THIS SUCKER IF YOU ARE RUNNING OS 3.5+'

03 March 2009, 09:44	#7
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,032	Why don't you simply forget your floppy disks and install the latest version of AWeb which is free now ? It does not come with back-leveled classes. http://aweb.sunsite.dk/

04 March 2009, 08:57	#10
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Hi Nova, It would seem the latest versions of iBrowse & AWeb were released in the same year. I never could get AWeb to work well (or even at all on my A1200T), but after a few teething problems (easy fixes, I#m just retarded), it is now VERY reliable & very compatible with most sites So yeah, my vote is for iBrowse...in fact I am posting this message with it! Shame you cannot buy registration keys anymore, but hey, they are out there PZ.

04 March 2009, 09:32	#11
NovaCoder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 4,431	What about the OWB...any good for 68k?

05 March 2009, 00:44	#12
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Origyn works fantastically on my Efika (MorphOS), but seems like it'd be pretty bloody resource-hungry on 68k-based machine I might be wrong though...give it a shot & let us know PZ.

06 March 2009, 07:14	#16
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,032	You don't need a device, you even don't need a TCP/IP stack. Just enable bsdsocket emulation on the Misc page and run you favourite internet app (e.g. OWB). If you like, you can install winpcap on Windows, then disable bsdsocket and enable uaenet. Then you can install a TCP/IP stack and choose uaenet.device.

06 March 2009, 09:06	#17
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	What do you NOT know Thomas?

08 March 2009, 23:42	#19
rockersuke Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Madrid / Spain Age: 56 Posts: 258	HI there! I'm closely following Novacoder's networking troubles as I'm right now also fighting against Easynet and a MMA401 wireless card. I couldn't make my A1200 make friends with my PC yet (no file transferring, still on it ^_^'), but the things is somehow working as the live update did its job and downloaded its stuff through my PC Internet connection. Then I tried to install AWeb... and found myself in the reverse problem as exposed here. I mean, my A1200 is a 3.1 ROM-3.1 WB system, so Aweb requires the Classact files. I downloaded them from Aminet, but Aweb seems to dislike the button.gadget file for no aparent reason (says it couldn't open it, snoopdos confirms the action "failed", but button.gadget is in its right place ->"classes/gadgets/"). This happened with version 3.5 beta, the one included in Amigakit's Easynet CD-ROM. I tried with 3.4 from Aweb site with the very same result. Any suggestion what to check next? --

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