Addams Family

Nobby_UK · 09 April 2020, 05:45

Slave 1.3

Intro Very Fast & a bit broken up
(on an Emulated 040 OS3.1)

Main Thing = Gomez has no animations
and occasionally disappears

jotd · 09 April 2020, 09:43

please use http://mantis.whdload.de to report bugs. You can post here, but the thread can be buried and noone cares after a while.

Torti-the-Smurf · 09 April 2020, 11:46

Please try Tooltypes.

NOCACHE
EXPCHIP

Those fix the most "Speed related" problems in my experience. Hope it helps.
( please disable JIT in Win-UAE Emulation if you have enabled )

jotd · 09 April 2020, 12:53

I'm okay to fix speed issues, I've fixed a lot those recent months (coding my own game taught me a lot). NOCACHE/EXPCHIP makes up for wrongly coded games, but on WinUAE, EXPCHIP doesn't change the speed.

And yes, even if WinUAE is supported on maximum speed (which allow to make slaves work on new fpga super fast boards on real machines), JIT isn't supported. Too much work because of a lot of extra issues and difficulty to debug in those conditions.

My target is the real machine(s) first. But not forgetting those who must fiddle with emulation settings for each game to get a perfect experience.

Retro-Nerd · 09 April 2020, 13:11

There is a pretty easy solution. Make an additional "real life" Amiga WinUAE config for WHLoad gaming only and (mostly) everything works fine.

jotd · 09 April 2020, 13:39

I use whdload pre/post scripts to change uae settings from/to JIT+max speed <=> no JIT A500/A1200 speed. I sometimes set to "fastest possible" to check bugs seen on real fast amigas.

Nobby_UK · 09 April 2020, 20:58

Doh !

Well the intro is still fast

But now the game 'runs'

But enemy characters are fuzzy

and there is an audio lag

lilalurl · 09 April 2020, 21:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

Gomez ? Blues Brothers ? ?? you mean Addams Family

Now, where is that crossover title the Blues Brothers vs the Addams Family? 90s producers/creators sure have done crazier stuff.

Anyway, title changed.

Nobby_UK · 09 April 2020, 21:31

Merci

Retro-Nerd · 10 April 2020, 00:42

As is said. Works perfectly fine here in WinUAE with a "normal" Amiga config. Use cycle exact settings in the "CPU" and "Chipset" tab.

Nobby_UK · 10 April 2020, 17:58

What is a "normal" Amiga config ?

Retro-Nerd · 10 April 2020, 18:04

No JIT, no "fastest possible CPU". Use cycle exact settings.

Chipset = Cycle exact (Full)
CPU = Approximate A500/A1200 or cycle exact.

Rest is up to you.

Nobby_UK · 11 April 2020, 01:37

It is all of those

But you mean ---
Just make it an 020

#EDIT#
The audio lag was down to buffers
DOH !
Still set to 10 --- when I had my old machine

Retro-Nerd · 11 April 2020, 03:08

I get garbled sprites with a 040 CPU too. Yep, 020 or 030 CPU is just fine here.

09 April 2020, 05:45	#1
Nobby_UK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,598	Addams Family Slave 1.3 Intro Very Fast & a bit broken up (on an Emulated 040 OS3.1) Main Thing = Gomez has no animations and occasionally disappears

09 April 2020, 09:43	#2
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,197	please use http://mantis.whdload.de to report bugs. You can post here, but the thread can be buried and noone cares after a while. Last edited by jotd; 09 April 2020 at 21:48.

09 April 2020, 11:46	#3
Torti-the-Smurf Registered User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Earth Posts: 1,064	Please try Tooltypes. NOCACHE EXPCHIP Those fix the most "Speed related" problems in my experience. Hope it helps. ( please disable JIT in Win-UAE Emulation if you have enabled ) Last edited by Torti-the-Smurf; 09 April 2020 at 18:57.

09 April 2020, 20:58	#7
Nobby_UK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,598	Doh ! Well the intro is still fast But now the game 'runs' But enemy characters are fuzzy and there is an audio lag Last edited by Nobby_UK; 22 November 2021 at 19:03.

11 April 2020, 01:37	#13
Nobby_UK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,598	It is all of those But you mean --- Just make it an 020 #EDIT# The audio lag was down to buffers DOH ! Still set to 10 --- when I had my old machine Last edited by Nobby_UK; 16 April 2020 at 22:16. Reason: update

09 April 2020, 12:53	#4
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,197	I'm okay to fix speed issues, I've fixed a lot those recent months (coding my own game taught me a lot). NOCACHE/EXPCHIP makes up for wrongly coded games, but on WinUAE, EXPCHIP doesn't change the speed. And yes, even if WinUAE is supported on maximum speed (which allow to make slaves work on new fpga super fast boards on real machines), JIT isn't supported. Too much work because of a lot of extra issues and difficulty to debug in those conditions. My target is the real machine(s) first. But not forgetting those who must fiddle with emulation settings for each game to get a perfect experience.

09 April 2020, 13:11	#5
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,445	There is a pretty easy solution. Make an additional "real life" Amiga WinUAE config for WHLoad gaming only and (mostly) everything works fine.

09 April 2020, 13:39	#6
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,197	I use whdload pre/post scripts to change uae settings from/to JIT+max speed <=> no JIT A500/A1200 speed. I sometimes set to "fastest possible" to check bugs seen on real fast amigas.

09 April 2020, 21:31	#9
Nobby_UK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,598	Merci

10 April 2020, 00:42	#10
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,445	As is said. Works perfectly fine here in WinUAE with a "normal" Amiga config. Use cycle exact settings in the "CPU" and "Chipset" tab.

10 April 2020, 17:58	#11
Nobby_UK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,598	What is a "normal" Amiga config ?

10 April 2020, 18:04	#12
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,445	No JIT, no "fastest possible CPU". Use cycle exact settings. Chipset = Cycle exact (Full) CPU = Approximate A500/A1200 or cycle exact. Rest is up to you.

11 April 2020, 03:08	#14
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,445	I get garbled sprites with a 040 CPU too. Yep, 020 or 030 CPU is just fine here.

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